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vegadesign 07-04-2013 10:21 PM

Re: 1970 project/ DD "instant death"
 
Thanks for noticing!
Your the first person to ever to comment those

My old side markers were all broken and cracked up, at least the lenses.
I finish peeling off the old red and clear lenses off and kept the bracket or backing of them
I painted the backing black and cut out the pattern of the back plate on metal I had laying around
I forget what it's called but it has a lot of holes in it lol
Once the were cut out I left them bare metal
They were supposed to rust lol
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wraprail 07-05-2013 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Crewchief22 (Post 6150929)
Lovin' the build. Not a fan of the copper tubing. I highly recommend using steel tubing or DOT plastic air lines.

Keep the updates coming.

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Originally Posted by vegadesign (Post 6150957)
Thank you
And it's something different
Dot fittings are mainly rated for big rigs otherwise its just a name basically
The copper is plenty strong for this application
The only dot hardware I have are the 1/4" lines ran from front to rear and thats to the gauges in the cab.
There's not enough going on to need brass fittings

I get most of my air line fittings a grainger and pay like $2-3 a piece
Never had a leak and they work great, even the cheap plastic check valve from the has worked for 2 years

My main reason for the copper tho is that you don't really see it to often.
The metal is just soft enough for push to connect fittings to work also
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There is a reason you don't see copper tubing used in automotive. It isn't rated for use in automotive applications. It cracks when subjected to vibration. Its great for running a water line to an ice maker in your HOUSE! Granger sells products for commercial and residential applications, not automotive. DOT stands for Department of Transportation. Not Department of Big Rigs. Besides all that, the biggest reason not to use copper lines like you plan to is pressure. Typical air system used on these trucks operate in the 80-150psi range which copper is not rated. Pressure cycles combined with vibration and it will fail. Maybe not tomorrow or next week. But it will fail. Most likely at a connection point where it is poorley supported and vibration will cause a crack. Lets just hope it doesn't happen on the freeway at speed with other cars where you could kill sone inniocent person. And if it does happen and they find copper tubing (non DOT) tubing caused the deaths (and your insurance declines the claim cuz your truck didn't use approved,rated materials) you will end up in prison singing love songs to a guy named "Buba"
Don't end up in prison singing love songs to a guy named "Buba"
Use DOT approved hose and fittings in your Air System.
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Downlow2xfo 07-05-2013 08:49 AM

Re: 1970 project/ DD "instant death"
 
Not to contradict you but from my ten years in the heating and air field we use the exact same diameter copper and thickness for our units in which some vibrate like hell. And with the new r410a Puron it runs 450+ psi on that exact same tubing... So I'm not sayin but I'm jus sayin! Lol
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wraprail 07-05-2013 10:44 AM

Re: 1970 project/ DD "instant death"
 
Doubtful
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vegadesign 07-05-2013 11:05 AM

Re: 1970 project/ DD "instant death"
 
ill take my chances, i had them on my s10 with no problems.

dot approved like i said is just a name. its like buying name brand appliances or clothing. looks the same and does the same.

my buddy owns the local fitting shop and knows his stuff so i go to him if i have any questions.

if there is a situation that you need you system inspected at a truck stop or weigh station they can check the labled fitting "dot"
if there is not dot you can be given a huge fine

but the ones not labeled dot are still made in the same factory on the same manufacture line

as for the copper is has alot of strucktural integrity.
there is no drastic bends in my air system to give this tubing the stress in rough or vibrating conditions, yes it my discolor when exposed to the elements but is still plenty strong

dlh760 07-06-2013 12:21 PM

Re: 1970 project/ DD "instant death"
 
Hey I was looking at my spare and I noticed that it has 4 nubs for the caps where yours only has three ,I don't know if it makes any difference or not. Dan.
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vegadesign 07-06-2013 12:40 PM

Re: 1970 project/ DD "instant death"
 
thats a good question...
i wonder if its the same going across, ill measure mine to see what the outside diameter is of the bumps

i havent had any luck finding some 6 lug rallys for you, everything is 5:smoke:

Turkey 07-12-2013 10:40 AM

Re: 1970 project/ DD "instant death"
 
cool build man, glad to see some home built fabrication stuff. Just goes to show that it can be done if one has the motivation.

vegadesign 07-12-2013 11:40 AM

Re: 1970 project/ DD "instant death"
 
thanks man, the way i see it. anything can be done with a grinder and a welder

vegadesign 07-13-2013 09:01 PM

Re: 1970 project/ DD "instant death"
 
http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/...psc1ccb4f7.jpg
http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/...psbba80cdc.jpg
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vegadesign 07-20-2013 11:11 AM

Re: 1970 project/ DD "instant death"
 
got my wheels painted, after throwing them back on i went on a cruise and was driving past the local airport and snuck into a lot and snaped a couple of pics

http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3ae305c7.jpg

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Jimbabwe 07-20-2013 02:37 PM

Re: 1970 project/ DD "instant death"
 
Nice work. Whatcha got capping off the shifter arm?

vegadesign 07-20-2013 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbabwe (Post 6182002)
Nice work. Whatcha got capping off the shifter arm?

My shifter knob?
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Jimbabwe 07-20-2013 03:15 PM

Re: 1970 project/ DD "instant death"
 
Yeah.

vegadesign 07-20-2013 03:25 PM

Re: 1970 project/ DD "instant death"
 
WWII baseball grenade
The fuse was spent and the bottom was drilled out
I welded a nut to the bottom and grinded it smooth
http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/...pse273bc70.jpg
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Jimbabwe 07-20-2013 03:31 PM

Re: 1970 project/ DD "instant death"
 
Nice! I thought so. Me likey.

KroAutomotiveInc 07-23-2013 02:44 PM

Re: 1970 project/ DD "instant death"
 
Good work dude nice fab skills everything looks great!

vegadesign 07-23-2013 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KroAutomotiveInc (Post 6186573)
Good work dude nice fab skills everything looks great!

thanks man!

KroAutomotiveInc 07-23-2013 03:22 PM

Re: 1970 project/ DD "instant death"
 
I wish when i did my 64 i had more knowledge on dropping the suspension but i was young had a torch in hand and a half a page guide on body drops haha.

vegadesign 07-23-2013 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KroAutomotiveInc (Post 6186622)
I wish when i did my 64 i had more knowledge on dropping the suspension but i was young had a torch in hand and a half a page guide on body drops haha.

im only 21, i just have alot of interest in building customs.
iv been on my own doing this kinda stuff since i was 15.
did my first 350 swap on my first car(chevy vega lol) blew it up in 4 months
now i just build and sell for fun now and the extra cash flow is nice

working for volkswagen in not going so well

KroAutomotiveInc 07-23-2013 05:04 PM

Re: 1970 project/ DD "instant death"
 
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Originally Posted by vegadesign (Post 6186729)
im only 21, i just have alot of interest in building customs.
iv been on my own doing this kinda stuff since i was 15.
did my first 350 swap on my first car(chevy vega lol) blew it up in 4 months
now i just build and sell for fun now and the extra cash flow is nice

working for volkswagen in not going so well

Wow cool man we are pretty much the same just a few years apart. I'm 24 my first victim was a 64 vw when i was 14-17 then the 64 gmc was next i was 19 or 20 when i did the body drop. I had just never really messed with suspension before so i took the opinion that worked in my head lol.

Downlow2xfo 07-23-2013 05:17 PM

Re: 1970 project/ DD "instant death"
 
Hey we're all right there I'm 24 workin on my one ton but also built a 74 plymouth roadrunner 440 at 18 lol
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vegadesign 07-23-2013 06:14 PM

Re: 1970 project/ DD "instant death"
 
im the youngest tech at my shop, they act like im the under dog till i blow their minds when im having to fix their problems.

its nice to know tho that im not the only youngster on here

bobbydigital 07-23-2013 07:43 PM

Re: 1970 project/ DD "instant death"
 
truck looks sick, i love flat black. have you thought about matching your grill to the wheels?

vegadesign 07-29-2013 11:47 AM

Re: 1970 project/ DD "instant death"
 
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Originally Posted by dlh760 (Post 6159447)
Hey I was looking at my spare and I noticed that it has 4 nubs for the caps where yours only has three ,I don't know if it makes any difference or not. Dan.
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so i just relized the one of my 4 wheels has 3 nubs instead of 4, it is a little more difficult put the hubcaps on but they are still the same wheels.

i just have to figure out which one is the original size and design

vegadesign 07-29-2013 11:48 AM

Re: 1970 project/ DD "instant death"
 
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Originally Posted by bobbydigital (Post 6186988)
truck looks sick, i love flat black. have you thought about matching your grill to the wheels?

i might try that, i dont have photoshop anymore otherwise i would try that.
good idea tho!!
gunna work on that and maybe use that. i was thinking of going all black but im not sure yet

c10Dream'n 07-29-2013 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by vegadesign (Post 6195012)
i might try that, i dont have photoshop anymore otherwise i would try that.
good idea tho!!
gunna work on that and maybe use that. i was thinking of going all black but im not sure yet

the green gives it a lil bit of character than just a blacked out look would. i say add a few more touches here and there to keep the theme going.

vegadesign 07-29-2013 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by c10Dream'n (Post 6195190)
the green gives it a lil bit of character than just a blacked out look would. i say add a few more touches here and there to keep the theme going.

if i could get a nicer non dented grille i would repaint it the same color i have now but grilles are so expensive!!

vegadesign 08-17-2013 06:05 PM

Re: 1970 project/ DD "instant death"
 
Not to many updates since the new job

Although I'm bagging a customers 66
http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3598538d.jpg
Scored on the 66, I had to do a s10 front end swap so I have a whole front clip
So I'm probably going to pancake the crossmember

http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0f689042.jpg

Here's a little something I started making at work whenever I get free time
Making a box for all my valves to protect from thrives and the elements
Nothing fancy but its temporary
http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/...ps731f3bd3.jpg

Since I'm over the whole automotive career and working for Volkswagen I decided to get back into fabrication
So I got a job at a fabrication shop building trailers and accessories or whatever comes through the door that needs some welding

I'm working on 5 trailers for the state right now
http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4943ef55.jpg
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vegadesign 08-18-2013 09:18 PM

Re: 1970 project/ DD "instant death"
 
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vegadesign 09-03-2013 03:10 PM

Re: 1970 project/ DD "instant death"
 
Broke my carrier bearing again. Bagged trucks just don't like these things lol
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Downlow2xfo 09-03-2013 05:05 PM

Re: 1970 project/ DD "instant death"
 
It's because u change ur pinion angle when u adjust the height. I know it's not fun but driving at stock ride height will save them. Personally for 28 bucks is jus keep changing em lol
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C_Ruiz 09-03-2013 06:51 PM

Re: 1970 project/ DD "instant death"
 
I recall there being a more "heavy duty" style one but I forgot what brand?
I agree with Downlow....I'd keep changing them too. Haha!
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Downlow2xfo 09-03-2013 08:07 PM

Re: 1970 project/ DD "instant death"
 
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This is the one I have. this style supposed to be for the heavy duty trucks now this too is for the 60-66 idk about newer models but it would be very easy to mount. All you need is two holes and two 1/2 inch bolts with lock nuts. Jus an idea and they cost $24.99 at autozone!
Part Number: HB206FF
Warranty: 1 YR
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C_Ruiz 09-03-2013 08:09 PM

Re: 1970 project/ DD "instant death"
 
I should just stock up on those. I'll be breaking a couple too. Haha
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vegadesign 09-03-2013 08:35 PM

Re: 1970 project/ DD "instant death"
 
The torn up one in the picture has actually lasted me the longest. I broke it 2 days after installing. Had a three year warranty so kept taking it back in and worked fine. After it broke so quick I reinforced it with some steel and it workes awesome. But I possibly didn't tighten the bolts to well so when I saw that it had broken I drove home, upon pulling in my drive way the sidewalk decided I didn't want to pass go lol which is why it looks so mangled.

But that heavy duty one looks like it would be ideal for this type of application. I've also been told this have much more flex alowing it to last longer.

Thanks for input fellas!
The part number will be majorly helpful!
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C_Ruiz 09-03-2013 08:40 PM

Re: 1970 project/ DD "instant death"
 
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Originally Posted by vegadesign (Post 6252105)
The torn up one in the picture has actually lasted me the longest. I broke it 2 days after installing. Had a three year warranty so kept taking it back in and worked fine. After it broke so quick I reinforced it with some steel and it workes awesome. But I possibly didn't tighten the bolts to well so when I saw that it had broken I drove home, upon pulling in my drive way the sidewalk decided I didn't want to pass go lol which is why it looks so mangled.

But that heavy duty one looks like it would be ideal for this type of application. I've also been told this have much more flex alowing it to last longer.

Thanks for input fellas!
The part number will be majorly helpful!
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I know what you mean....I did that with my last truck setup and I thought the truck completely broke off. HAHA.
Not a problem amigo! Although, Downlow linked both of us to what I was referring to. So thank you Downlow!
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Downlow2xfo 09-03-2013 08:43 PM

Re: 1970 project/ DD "instant death"
 
No prob guys jus doin wits been done for me on this site! Let us kno how it works out.
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vegadesign 09-03-2013 09:58 PM

Re: 1970 project/ DD "instant death"
 
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Originally Posted by Downlow2xfo (Post 6252115)
No prob guys jus doin wits been done for me on this site! Let us kno how it works out.
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Ill give a try as soon as possible. When I move the carrier bearing to straighten the drive shafts out to ride height I will make a new bracket for the heavy duty style carrier bearing
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C_Ruiz 09-03-2013 10:01 PM

Re: 1970 project/ DD "instant death"
 
I need to take my truck to you so I can see what you're doing and try to emulate it. =D
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