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SCOTI 08-17-2021 09:57 AM

Re: 1964 C10 fleet side swb
 
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Originally Posted by Paul Y (Post 8958576)
....One small observation re your proportioning valve. I was taught that they should be mounted fore and aft rather than side to side. Now that could be an old wives tale but might want to bear it in mind if you have an issue with your brakes once out on the road with either the rears locking up or not working well.....

P. :D

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Originally Posted by Justin71105 (Post 8958930)
If prop valve is an issue will move it up onto master cylinder like alot of tese trucks are done. Just have to run new brake lines in that case, can make them look better if I do that.

The 73 I pulled it off of had it mounted in this same location and position, thats why I chose it.

4L80 was much to expensive to think about, a core is around 1k here, for the price of corr/rebuild I could buy a gearstar trans.

The 4L60 will be built enough to handle any extra power I out on it which I dont plan to do for a long time. Never had an issue out of a 4L60e in any truck Ive owned even with upwards of 300k miles, only time I seen someone have an issue was when putting more power on them or rrally dogging their trucks.

Will have trans built for more than stock hp/tq just to be safe. I am mostly wanting reliable driveability in an old truck, so stock power in this light of a truck will likely be plenty for me.



Hopefully by the end of the year I will be driving it, going to need glass before transmission I think, dont want a cab full of water while sitting at transmission shop. As soon as a transmission is put in I can move it around the yard though.

The prop valve doesn't know what position it's in & works either way.
On some vehicles they're mounted fore/aft; others might have them left to right. They're mounted based on the packaging of the various components & placed where they'll fit.

Justin71105 08-18-2021 10:38 PM

Re: 1964 C10 fleet side swb
 
Got my front turn/park lights wired up today and tested everything with column wire connector plugged in and headlight switch.

Have to do some troubleshooting on the turn signals, I get park lights all the way around, brake lights work, hazards work but turn signals do not. It actually kills the rear lights completely.

Going to check my wiring again and maybe try another flasher relay if that checks out.

Wiring may be fine since brake lights work and hazards flash on all 4 corners, going to make sure that it is flashing the bright filaments in rear, fronts I made sure to wire bright filament for turn signals... Can't remember on rear been awhile since I wired them, went by color instead of checking which wire was actually for the brighter filament.


So park lights are working in front and rear, brake lights work, hazards work. I have headlight switch plugged in and column, do not have the foot switch in yet since I do not have headlights wired in. Will also be checking how well I am grounded to the frame, I don't remember adding a ground strap to the bed yet.

SCOTI 08-19-2021 09:35 AM

Re: 1964 C10 fleet side swb
 
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Originally Posted by Justin71105 (Post 8959836)
Got my front turn/park lights wired up today and tested everything with column wire connector plugged in and headlight switch.

Have to do some troubleshooting on the turn signals, I get park lights all the way around, brake lights work, hazards work but turn signals do not. It actually kills the rear lights completely.

Going to check my wiring again and maybe try another flasher relay if that checks out.

Wiring may be fine since brake lights work and hazards flash on all 4 corners, going to make sure that it is flashing the bright filaments in rear, fronts I made sure to wire bright filament for turn signals... Can't remember on rear been awhile since I wired them, went by color instead of checking which wire was actually for the brighter filament.


So park lights are working in front and rear, brake lights work, hazards work. I have headlight switch plugged in and column, do not have the foot switch in yet since I do not have headlights wired in. Will also be checking how well I am grounded to the frame, I don't remember adding a ground strap to the bed yet.

You'll need to get all your grounds in place & then check functionality @ each location.

Justin71105 08-19-2021 03:32 PM

Re: 1964 C10 fleet side swb
 
There were 3 problems, turn signal relay was not working, needed a better ground on LH bed light housing and the portion that holds the bulb wasnt allowing bulb to spin into position fully.

Changed flasher relay for a heavy duty one and I got signals in front working but not rear. Had previously swapped hazard relay into turn signal spot but I guess I got 2 hazard relays. They both work on hazards but neither work on turn signal, the HD one worked right away.


Cleaned up grounds on bed and LH signal was working but RH was dim both for park and signal. Pulled lenses off and found that the LH was lighting the park filament for park/brake/turn...

Messed around with it and found the bulb was not spinning enough and the dim filament teminal was touching both wires in harness. Finally got it cleaned up and working right, so now I have all lights working. Just waiting on the rings that hold the headlights in place to put them in.

Going to order the relay harness as well for front lights when I get closer to outting it on the road.

TxCajun 08-20-2021 10:30 PM

Re: 1964 C10 fleet side swb
 
Those trailer light back-up lights that you found (post #112) are a great idea.

Looks like O'Reilly Auto has those locally for about $12 for a pair.

My truck does not have back-up lights, so I'm going to check those out as an alternative to the reproduction originals that are around $100 for a pair.

Thanks!

Justin71105 08-21-2021 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TxCajun (Post 8960772)
Those trailer light back-up lights that you found (post #112) are a great idea.

Looks like O'Reilly Auto has those locally for about $12 for a pair.

My truck does not have back-up lights, so I'm going to check those out as an alternative to the reproduction originals that are around $100 for a pair.

Thanks!

They look better than I was even expecting, only need to drill a small hole for these.


Since one bedside on mine already had the hole drilled for stock back up lights, I matched the size on opposite bedside. The two screws that hold the lense on are used to hold it to my bed side with J nut clips.


They light up bright and are cheap enough to replace if damaged, just uses a single filament bulb if it burns out, one wire and grounds through the mounting bolts like all my other lights on truck.

I think its a nice alternative to the stock ones, looks more retro as well.

Justin71105 08-28-2021 09:02 PM

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Put bumpers on and sat it on the ground for the first time in a while.

Since I got column/linkage in I decided to try transmission once again, actually turned tires for a few seconds in each gear. Killed and checked fluid and it didnt seem to have pulled any through cooler, still too full. Started again and went through hears again and it worked a few secs and then nothing again.

Going to mess with it tomorrow some more, pull cooler lines ans see if it actually pumped anything.

Planned on having trans rebuilt from beginning so not an issue but would like to be able to move it around under its own power.

Hopefully having glass put in mid sept, got a qte last week, windshield was $320 incl install and back glass was $150 for just install. I tried putting back glass in Friday and am just going to let them do it. Fought it with my brotther for a good 2 hrs and decided against doing it.

Still need to bleed brakes as well, master is leaking at reservoir seal so probably going to get a new one first and bench bleed.

Justin71105 09-08-2021 07:23 AM

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Local company coming out next Wed to do my front and rear glass. Body harness just about finished up other than guages and other dash stuff I dont have yet like ac/radio/wipers.

Found a deal on a used Borla ProXS muffler locally that I picked up. Looks to be a tight fit but I measured and think the muffler shop I'm going to use can do it.

Got a fromt sway bar from cpp I will be putting in and all new door parts ready to go in once I have transmission done. Hoping to be able to get it done soon, maybe early - mid Oct. Then I will only need to finish up a few other things to have it ready to start test deiving. Carpet, bed floor, fuel filler, assemble doors and put seats back in.

Justin71105 09-10-2021 09:17 PM

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I got my Dakota Digital gauges put in today, still need to install oil pressure and water temp sensors and run those wires but wanted to see what they would look like.

Will try to finish that up tomorrow and maybe install my CPP sway bar.

Justin71105 09-12-2021 07:26 PM

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Sound deadener done on firewall and wall behind seats. Going to do the roof after glass is put in.

Sprayed the dash, has orange peel and runs...but dang to me it looks really good.

Got to get some plywood for a bed floor, need to get it in before it goes to transmission shop.

Justin71105 09-21-2021 01:27 AM

Re: 1964 C10 fleet side swb
 
Glass install was a bit of a cluster, front seal installer brought was for chrome trim and they could not get a standard seal from supplier which is what I need.

My back glass I was given with truck was too thick to fit in the rear gasket.

So I had to order a front standard seal and a new rear back glass. Hopefully will have them in next week and get everything installed.

Rear glass I was given with truck is 7.10mm or 1/4" thick, from reading online what I could find ahould be around 3-4mm or 1/8". Maybe the custom used a thicker glass for chrome trim trucks, cant find anything about it.

So neither glass was able to be installed. Guess I can do new e-brake cable setup while I wait.

SCOTI 09-21-2021 09:54 AM

Re: 1964 C10 fleet side swb
 
I feel your pain.

I had issues w/my rear glass install years ago as well. Three attempts & he basically said he was done w/that 3rd. While the glass is installed, the seal is pinched @ both of the lower L & R corners on the inside. He sourced my glass locally. I sourced the first gasket but he didn't want to use it as he had material he normally used. He destroyed the one I provided (conveniently?) & ultimately used his go-to material for the 2nd/3rd installs.

I sliced relief cuts in the seal so they wouldn't protrude as much. I'm thinking about trying it again on my own.

Justin71105 10-01-2021 11:26 AM

Re: 1964 C10 fleet side swb
 
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Originally Posted by SCOTI (Post 8973949)
I feel your pain.

I had issues w/my rear glass install years ago as well. Three attempts & he basically said he was done w/that 3rd. While the glass is installed, the seal is pinched @ both of the lower L & R corners on the inside. He sourced my glass locally. I sourced the first gasket but he didn't want to use it as he had material he normally used. He destroyed the one I provided (conveniently?) & ultimately used his go-to material for the 2nd/3rd installs.

I sliced relief cuts in the seal so they wouldn't protrude as much. I'm thinking about trying it again on my own.



Hope they get it done this time around, trying again this Tuesday. I have a brand new back glass from LMC and a new non-trim windshield seal. Already have the rear glass seal and theybare bringing the windshield.

Ready to get the glass dome with so I can get in line for a transmission to be built. Dont want to jump theh gun and schedule to have a transmission done and installed and atill not have my glass in.

Justin71105 10-05-2021 05:03 PM

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Back glass was installed today, took 2 guys about 2.5 hrs to get it in.

Said it was the first one they had done like this in a truck, usually see them in excavators and they were much easier to install. The LMC glass was 6.5mm thick, and I had a precision gasket for it.

It came out pretty good, the inside bottom corners do pucker a little but hopefully will settle with some time, not really worried about it as long as it doesnt leak.

They will be back out later this week to do the windshid, planner did not tell them they were supplying it. For the price I am happy with it, wish I had a helper or two for an afyernoon, could have done both myself.

Me and my brother tried it a couple weeks ago and while it whooped us I am confodent we could have gotten the rear done with more time. Problem is he's always busy and cant help for a couple hours like we would have needed.

SCOTI 10-05-2021 06:18 PM

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I wish there was a solution for the lower-corner pucker.

88Stanger 10-06-2021 10:04 AM

Re: 1964 C10 fleet side swb
 
Of all the things i kept stock from the truck, it is the back glass, for this very resaon. Nice work though....

Justin71105 10-08-2021 05:41 PM

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They got the windshield imstlled in less than an hour, only charged me for wimdshield and install. No charge for installing back glass, so $370 for a windshield installed and install of back glass.

cwcarpenter98 10-08-2021 05:53 PM

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That looks great!

SCOTI 10-08-2021 06:27 PM

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Nice. Nothing like some fresh glass on your build!

realvc 10-08-2021 08:24 PM

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Very nice!

Justin71105 10-03-2022 08:37 AM

Re: 1964 C10 fleet side swb
 
Haven't posted in awhile but I did get carpet, seats, column and gauges installed last year. Have been traveling for work since Feb and have not been at home to do anything else.

All I need is bed floor, doors assembled and installed and a new transmission and I will be able to drive it and see what the next issues will be.

Going to order a bed floor just before I fly home to installed this winter. Will also try to complete assembly on the doors and get them installed as well.

I found a brilliant filler door idea on FB today. He used a 99-06 Chevy truck fuel filler door assembly, took off lid and mounted brake light to it and mounted hinge inside the pocket of stock brake light hole. Then used a bolt with wingnut on top bolt for a pull down.

Looks almost like the 67-72 one you can buy and can get the gas door at junkyard for about $15, he had a video on Facebook it looked awesome.

** Actually found a video of a guy doing the same idea on a F100

https://youtu.be/RsEiEI7iBrY

Justin71105 12-05-2022 07:33 AM

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Got the driver side door inner bottoms replaced, although my lack of patience also caused this one one to pull in from the heat like the passenger side.

Good balance between the doors I guess haha, bit there like I say about all the metal work I've done. At least there isn't a rot hole in it anymore and hopefully it don't leak.

Now I am starting on the bed floor, I had to cut and remake one of the side rails that sits on top of the wood floor on the driver side bed in front of the wheel well. I had replaced it once before but made it too narrow, needed to be 1" wide.

88Stanger 12-05-2022 02:56 PM

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Nice work!!

Justin71105 05-11-2023 06:57 PM

Re: 1964 C10 fleet side swb
 
I got the bed floor in, back out and stained. Fuel cap behind the driver side brake light with a fill through cap. Using a strong magnet to hold the brake light in and will have a ground strap to hold it when I fill up, or weld a hook somewhere back there and hang it on the eye bolt I use to pull it out.

Both doors assembled, although one of the lmc regulators was a pos and not working. Stuck the stock one in the passenger side and a new one in driver side.

Now I just need to put in fuel hose to tank and re-install bed floor. Bleed the brakes, replace a out of round drum and it can go in for a reman transmission.

Justin71105 05-22-2023 07:16 AM

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I can't figure out how to upload the picture without it being way to big. Resized and uploaded a new one and still its 4000x2700 or something crazy big.

So here's a link to the pics of the bed floor I finally got installed and doors completed.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/672zS3KPy7G8k5St6

SCOTI 05-22-2023 10:06 AM

Re: 1964 C10 fleet side swb
 
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Originally Posted by Justin71105 (Post 9206093)
I can't figure out how to upload the picture without it being way to big. Resized and uploaded a new one and still its 4000x2700 or something crazy big.

So here's a link to the pics of the bed floor I finally got installed and doors completed.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/672zS3KPy7G8k5St6

Looks good.
What was the floor coating process? Did you go w/pine or oak?

Justin71105 05-22-2023 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SCOTI (Post 9206137)
Looks good.
What was the floor coating process? Did you go w/pine or oak?

Oak floor, sanded and then did 3 coats of Valspar darkest night stain/sealer on top/bottom and maybe 2 extra coats on all the sides.

Sanded after the first coat dried but not for any of the others.

SCOTI 05-22-2023 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Justin71105 (Post 9206165)
Oak floor, sanded and then did 3 coats of Valspar darkest night stain/sealer on top/bottom and maybe 2 extra coats on all the sides.

Sanded after the first coat dried but not for any of the others.

Thanks for following up. My computer monitor doesn't have enough detail to differentiate between a dark-stain vs paint. I dig it.

Justin71105 05-23-2023 06:56 AM

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Have 2 rolls of setting tape for the vent windows, the glass slides out of the frame way too easy. Hopefully I can put it in with the frame attatched, if not will be using some type of glass sealant instead.

The bed looks better than I thought it would turn out. Need to sand an primer the body now to get it all looking decent.

Justin71105 09-19-2023 08:42 AM

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Got the call today, finally after 5 weeks my transmissiom had been dropped out of the truck for rebuild.

Hopefuly will get it back soon and be able to have an exhaust installed and an alignment performed so I can drive it.

SCOTI 09-19-2023 08:49 AM

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Getting closer!

Justin71105 10-13-2023 12:48 PM

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Finally a month later all the parts came in, its rebuilt and they test drove it. They close early on Fridays so I cannot get it today bit I should have it back monday.

Got mufflers orderd and will get one in for the windshield wiper motor/harness/switch..

Need exhaust a d alignment before I start driving it mych more than the end of the street. Hopefully can get that all setup in about 2 weeks.

Justin71105 10-15-2023 05:11 PM

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Got a Borla ProXs muffler for it, 2.5 in/out.

If the truck gets back home early enough I will weld the flanges on my headers. Then hopefully be able to gwt the rest of the exhaust put on sat along with an alignment.

Will order the newport wiper motor, harness and delay swotch tomorrow for it.

Going to put in a stock looking bluetooth radio in it ad well.

Justin71105 10-16-2023 05:57 PM

Re: 1964 C10 fleet side swb
 
Got my truck back today and its moving under its own power finally after almost 4 long years. She looks like **** though with the door repairs so will likely be replacing the doors next year.

Need to take off the inner door panel and find the mirror mounts so I can drill those holes and weld the other ones drilled. Need to make a mount for the license plate and light.

Get the exhuast welded on and an alignment, bleed the brakes again they are a little spongy.

But it moves on it own now and after a few weeks I should be able to take it on its first outing. Will likely run it to the store this weekend after I bleed brakes once more and next weekend will have my exhaust system and alignment done.

SCOTI 10-17-2023 09:25 AM

Re: 1964 C10 fleet side swb
 
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Originally Posted by Justin71105 (Post 9251231)
Got my truck back today and its moving under its own power finally after almost 4 long years. She looks like **** though with the door repairs so will likely be replacing the doors next year.

Need to take off the inner door panel and find the mirror mounts so I can drill those holes and weld the other ones drilled. Need to make a mount for the license plate and light.

Get the exhuast welded on and an alignment, bleed the brakes again they are a little spongy.

But it moves on it own now and after a few weeks I should be able to take it on its first outing. Will likely run it to the store this weekend after I bleed brakes once more and next weekend will have my exhaust system and alignment done.

Sounds like a win to me. Take some pics when the victory lap happens :metal:

Justin71105 10-18-2023 06:43 AM

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Looks like I will be ordering new doors this week. Went to install mirrors and the holes werent in correct spot.

So i opened inner panel and the brackets are there but bondod over it looked like.

So i sanded down the paint and found where the holes are. Drilled into door and it was lead, pulled back more paint for the other holes and theres about a 10" section of lead.

Doors already look pretty bad, so Im going to just order new ones now and be done with it.

Hoping my local speed shop still does parts orders so I can have them delivered there. Dont know how they freight works on them other than the price charged. But i would like to be home when delivered and probably wouldnt be able.

Thankfully I have been saving for 4 years for stuff like trans/ac and heat kit/doors.

Justin71105 10-18-2023 10:44 AM

Re: 1964 C10 fleet side swb
 
If the doors are in stock the local shop said they will order them tomorrow with there big order.

Now will just have to drill for mirrors and move over all of my new door parts. Will order another section of window chanel, ripped mine on drivwr side installing it.

Need to do some research on mirror hole placement now, want them in the right spots. Hoping the bracing is in the door for them.

Will throw the universal mirrors on my current door to get on the rd and to the muffler shop.

SCOTI 10-18-2023 02:21 PM

Re: 1964 C10 fleet side swb
 
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Originally Posted by Justin71105 (Post 9251741)
If the doors are in stock the local shop said they will order them tomorrow with there big order.

Now will just have to drill for mirrors and move over all of my new door parts. Will order another section of window chanel, ripped mine on drivwr side installing it.

Need to do some research on mirror hole placement now, want them in the right spots. Hoping the bracing is in the door for them.

Will throw the universal mirrors on my current door to get on the rd and to the muffler shop.

If there's no bracing, you can easily accomplish reinforcement of things w/some flat bar & epoxy.

Justin71105 10-18-2023 06:41 PM

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A buddy of mine got his through lmc and said he has the bracing with bolts on both sides just no holes drilled.

If they dont this does sound good as well.

Justin71105 10-20-2023 06:57 PM

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Doors were in stock agot ordered today. Also went ahead and got the newport wiper motor, delay switch and washer fluid pump.

Only other items I want is the vintage air kit and a stereo setup. Stock style radio with some speakers and maybe an 8" sub under the seat.

May move the engine ecm and place fuse box for body in its location when I do stereo.


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