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jeh 05-15-2016 05:03 PM

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Very creative Vic, looks good!!! Hope you get the frame issue "straightened" out. ;)

Xeen 05-15-2016 07:43 PM

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Vic it's good to see that you are getting some stuff done.

Elliot949 05-15-2016 09:09 PM

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Very Nice Vic... Good luck getting the frame straight... I would say the guy that straighten it the first time is a incompetent frame man... Stating that he no longer works on "those" truck because nothing ever fit is the biggest line of crap I have ever heard... back when we have the shop open we did the 50,60 and 70's truck all the time and NEVER had a issue getting one straight...

Vic1947 05-15-2016 10:53 PM

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Very creative Vic, looks good!!! Hope you get the frame issue "straightened" out. ;)

Thanks, Jason, I hope so too.
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Vic it's good to see that you are getting some stuff done.

You bet, Brian. A little here, a little there...
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Very Nice Vic... Good luck getting the frame straight... I would say the guy that straighten it the first time is a incompetent frame man... Stating that he no longer works on "those" truck because nothing ever fit is the biggest line of crap I have ever heard... back when we have the shop open we did the 50,60 and 70's truck all the time and NEVER had a issue getting one straight...

Hey Dan, I've been watching Raymond's progress and it seems like I'm stuck in waist deep mud compared to you. I reckon no business owner likes to see a "comeback" but he could have finessed it a bit better. At least he made the offer to have another look. He's been doing it a long time, but everyone makes a mistake now and then. However, it's probably best if this other shop can work me in. I'll keep everyone posted.

Elliot949 05-16-2016 06:54 AM

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Hey Dan, I've been watching Raymond's progress and it seems like I'm stuck in waist deep mud compared to you. I reckon no business owner likes to see a "comeback" but he could have finessed it a bit better. At least he made the offer to have another look. He's been doing it a long time, but everyone makes a mistake now and then. However, it's probably best if this other shop can work me in. I'll keep everyone posted.[/QUOTE]

I understand Vic... I have certainly had my issues with Chris Carlson's Hot Rods... I am on the downhill slope now... and I would say that once you get the frame issue Straighten out (tongue in cheek) you will be well on your way to completion...

I did send you a PM awhile back about your engine... We may be isterested in it for my grandson...

Low Elco 05-16-2016 07:13 AM

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Good lookin' stuff, Vic! Thanks again for helping Boppa the other day.

Hart_Rod 05-16-2016 08:27 AM

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Meanwhile, we cranked out the Aeromotive in-tank fuel pump mount. Started with some aluminum angle and fit it into the block off plate that came with the Boyd's tank. I used AN bulkhead fittings for the pressure and return lines. The wiring feed-through is a brass compression union that I modified on the lathe and potted with JB Weld where the wires feed through. Voila! I now have a 340 lph, 90 psi pump for under $150. We ended up switching the fuel line to the driver side since the LS3 fuel rails connect on that side. Mounted the regulator/filter to the angled cross member which kept the return line short.


Your fuel module looks good! Did you use fuel line that can be submersed in fuel? I found out the hard way that you can't just use normal fuel hose as the exterior of the line is not designed to be submerged in fuel and will deteriorate over time. Just a heads up.

jlsanborn 05-16-2016 09:48 AM

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Your fuel module looks good! Did you use fuel line that can be submersed in fuel? I found out the hard way that you can't just use normal fuel hose as the exterior of the line is not designed to be submerged in fuel and will deteriorate over time. Just a heads up.

There's a hot tip!

Outstanding work Vic, as usual!

Vic1947 05-16-2016 11:32 AM

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Good lookin' stuff, Vic! Thanks again for helping Boppa the other day.

Hey, no problem Chip, anything to get a ride in Yeller. ;)

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Your fuel module looks good! Did you use fuel line that can be submersed in fuel? I found out the hard way that you can't just use normal fuel hose as the exterior of the line is not designed to be submerged in fuel and will deteriorate over time. Just a heads up.

Good catch, Rob. The box the Aeromotive pump came in included the filter, the hose and a couple of clamps. I used their hose, so I assumed(!) it would be suitable. Their installation instructions said nothing about the components other than anything in the system should be compatible with the fuel. But to be sure, I looked at the FAQ on their website and found no mention of it. So I waited on hold for one of their tech guys who confirmed that the fuel hose (and the rubber gasket in the weather pack connector) are designed for immersion in fuel. Hopefully it will last for many miles of smiles.

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There's a hot tip!

Outstanding work Vic, as usual!

Thanks, John!

notchbackgta 05-16-2016 03:46 PM

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the LS3 fuel rails connect on that side.

I am pretty sure you can flip the fuel rail around if you want. The LS1 will let you, I don't see why the LS3 would be any different.

Vic1947 05-16-2016 04:22 PM

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I am pretty sure you can flip the fuel rail around if you want. The LS1 will let you, I don't see why the LS3 would be any different.

I wasn't aware of that, so I checked and you're correct that the fuel rail can be installed with the feed toward either side. The problem is that the sound cover is asymmetric. There's an indentation in the cover that clears the line. You can't flip the cover around because the front and back are so different. A possible solution would be to leave the cover off (which some guys do) but I've read the noise level goes up quite a bit. Alternatively, you could mill a slot in the cover to clear the line. I'll have to mull this over some. ;)

snipescastle2 05-17-2016 08:05 AM

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Vic,
I know you already have your fuel system planned, but I seen this setup a while back on a Corvette Forum and I thought I'd share, it's a mod to use the "Return less" fuel system.......
Have a good one!
Ben
:metal:

Vic1947 05-22-2016 05:50 PM

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We went to Sedalia yesterday to the annual West Central MO Vintage Auto Club car show. All their proceeds go to several charities, plus I get to catch up with a lot of my car buds, so we always have a great time. Weather was outstanding and they had over 150 cars counting the members.

When we got home, the spectacle kit for my full face mask was in the mailbox. So this morning I assembled it all and tried it on. Looks like it should work very well for grinding and painting tasks. That only leave welding protection for me to figure out, although I really don't have that much welding to do at this point. I'm leaning toward prescription swim goggles to wear with the helmet. They look like they'd easily fit.

The lead I had on a frame shop petered out. So I'm back to looking again. I pulled the fuel tank, hitch, sway bar, fuel lines and some of the brake lines while I sort out where to go. Looks naked without some of those pieces. ;)

swamp rat 05-22-2016 06:43 PM

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I like the spectacle kit, i could use one to say the least.. even using a full face over instead of my nose/mouth mask would be nice except it won't seal around the ear frames of my glasses, then again i also have a goatee, humm....

Can you tell me what cartridge you have? Looks like 6011 but i cant locate that on the 3M page. Thanks!

I just bought some new P95's at the paint store.

Vic1947 05-22-2016 10:50 PM

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...Can you tell me what cartridge you have? Looks like 6011 but i cant locate that on the 3M page. Thanks!

I just bought some new P95's at the paint store.

It's a 3M 6001 which is a "P95 series" organic vapor and particulate cartridge. P95 just means it filters 95% of airborne particles and is strongly resistant to oils which makes it a decent filter for painting.

swamp rat 05-23-2016 01:23 AM

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It's a 3M 6001 which is a "P95 series" organic vapor and particulate cartridge. P95 just means it filters 95% of airborne particles and is strongly resistant to oils which makes it a decent filter for painting.

Thank you!

mcbassin 05-23-2016 08:43 AM

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I have that same respirator Vic. I was very happy with mine when shooting any primer or paint. I'm sure you already know, but I bought peel away covers for mine, so I can keep the face clean.
I think it's a great idea for grinding too.

Vic1947 05-23-2016 03:39 PM

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I have that same respirator Vic. I was very happy with mine when shooting any primer or paint. I'm sure you already know, but I bought peel away covers for mine, so I can keep the face clean.
I think it's a great idea for grinding too.

Thanks, Mike, it's always good to get confirmation that a tool works in the real world. The mask did come with a complimentary protective cover and an advertisement for more in English, French, Spanish and Portuguese. Even though I mainly speak redneck, I was able to find them on eBay and order a pack. ;)

Vic1947 05-26-2016 07:28 PM

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I forged ahead and stripped all the AccuAir parts out of the frame. Reinstalled the Schrader valves I'd used when mocking up the bags so the suspension would have "springs". I located and marked the area that was wrinkled originally where Leroy's hammered it down. You can see the tool marks in it. Hopefully it will stretch back out during the pull. It's ready to go to a frame shop once I decide where. I'm going to stop by the Midway Ford Truck Center down by Worlds of Fun and see if I can get an estimate on time and $$$ to pull the front third of the frame back into alignment. Their website says they work on all sizes of trucks from 18 wheelers down to pickups. If that doesn't pan out, I'm headed to Sedalia to have it done there by a guy my brother knows. Will keep you posted.

Vic1947 05-29-2016 02:18 PM

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Well, Midway Truck wasn't interested at all in this kind of work. Guess they're mainly focused on the bigger and newer stuff. However, I finally landed at B&H Automotive. Their Gladstone shop (4 miles from my house) is dedicated to restorations and very close to the place I get my paint and body supplies. They're busy right now, but have penciled me in for 10 hours on the frame machine starting June 27. I've got a few things I can do between now and then, plus we'll be gone for a little over a week on Power Tour. So the intervening time won't be wasted. The person I spoke with sounded very professional and welcoming. Looking forward to getting this settled once and for all.

jeh 05-29-2016 09:09 PM

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For all the time and craftsmanship you've put in this truck I hope they can get it dialed in for you. Really, I'm just ready to see this Ls swap happen!!!!!

Vic1947 05-30-2016 06:00 PM

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For all the time and craftsmanship you've put in this truck I hope they can get it dialed in for you. Really, I'm just ready to see this Ls swap happen!!!!!

Thanks, Jason, I hope so too! Having that LS3 just sitting on the engine stand is killin' me.

Today I prepped the posi unit for installation. Pressed on the carrier and pinion bearings and installed the 3.73 ring gear. The notches in the carrier case work great to hold the unit while torqueing the bolts to 55 ft/lbs. I set up a couple of pieces of 5/8" square stock in the vise and used them as stops. Next step is to remove the existing carrier and pinion from the rear end and mock up the new posi and see how close the pinion depth is. Probably wait until the frame is fixed for that. Besides, I'm still waiting on CPP to ship the 5 lug axles and brakes, etc.

jlsanborn 05-31-2016 11:10 AM

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We're rooting for you on the frame work Vic. Also anxious to see you set this final up as I'll be facing that one day myself. Have fun on the Tour!

Low Elco 05-31-2016 12:12 PM

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Good luck with the frame shop!

Vic1947 06-06-2016 03:40 PM

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We're rooting for you on the frame work Vic. Also anxious to see you set this final up as I'll be facing that one day myself. Have fun on the Tour!

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Good luck with the frame shop!

Thanks, John & Chip, I think these guys should be able to get me "squared away". ;)

The places in the firewall that I clearance'd for the valve covers and HEI on the Gen I engine had to go, so I cut them out and patched in new metal. I've been using the new full facemask for the grinding and it's great. Took a few tries to get the glasses positioned where they work best. Going from a no-line bifocal to a standard is a trip back in time, but I can see well enough to keep from grinding off any of my fingers.

CPP shipped all my 5 lug, big brake hardware and it should be here tomorrow. Christmas in June!!

jeh 06-06-2016 06:29 PM

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Looks good Vic, glad your new protective equipment is working out for you.

jlsanborn 06-06-2016 11:15 PM

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Can't wait to see the eye candy. Nice work on the patches, clean as a whistle!

Elliot949 06-07-2016 06:56 AM

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Rock On Vic... looks great... Can't wait to see this start coming together...

Low Elco 06-07-2016 06:59 AM

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Looks good! I need me one of those face shields.

mcbassin 06-07-2016 07:55 AM

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Very nice work on the rear diff and cab.

Bubba4spd 06-07-2016 09:30 AM

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Just started following this build last night, there was a lot to catch up on and just as many things to learn. Looking forward to following you in Vic1947.

Possmguts 06-08-2016 05:14 PM

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Hey Im pretty sure I figured out what the top of your hood came off of... but I forgot now (sigh).... racking my brain right now and I smell smoke!

knomadd 06-10-2016 12:32 PM

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Hey Vic, looks like you're still making headway. I hope the frame gets straightened out for you. Have fun on Power Tour!

Vic1947 06-22-2016 03:01 PM

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Brief update...

After returning from Power Tour, I went down to the "resto" shop where I had an appointment next week to straighten the frame. They looked a lot more like a regular body shop than the website portrayed. After speaking with one of the counter guys and showing him the pictures of the frame, he went to the back and spoke with their frame tech. The frame tech said he didn't want to mess with it since someone else had already worked on it and, get this... he didn't want to have to push it up onto the rack since it has no engine. Later I got to thinking, what happens when they have a vehicle that's been involved in a front end collision? 9 times out of 10 the car isn't running and needs the frame fixed before the mechanical work can be done. I reckon it was just their way of saying they have more lucrative stuff to work on.

So, I took a chance and called Leroy's back. He was very congenial and said he would try to get it in the shop next week. He will call me a day or two ahead of time so I can arrange for a trailer to haul it to him. Meanwhile, I've been searching online for a SWB frame just in case, and missed two by less than 24 hours. If the deal with Leroy falls thru, I'll have to resume my search. It's been an uphill climb getting this fixed, but it ain't over till the fat lady sings. ;)

sduckworth13 06-22-2016 06:07 PM

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Vic, I have you covered on the truck and trailer just let me know when and I'm there.

Vic1947 06-22-2016 10:23 PM

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Vic, I have you covered on the truck and trailer just let me know when and I'm there.

I'm counting on it, Scott. Thanks!

jlsanborn 06-23-2016 09:11 AM

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Glad you're back Vic. It seems like it shouldn't be such a big deal with it being a naked, rolling chassis and all. I sure hope you can get it fixed and not have to take those steps back. On the other hand, a never wrecked chassis might be the most peaceful route too. Either way, I'm watching!

Low Elco 06-23-2016 12:05 PM

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Well, if he doesn't pan out, I may have another place. All they do is rebuild totals. Kinda hard to catch, but they probably would'nt bat an eye.

Vic1947 06-24-2016 03:58 PM

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Well, if he doesn't pan out, I may have another place. All they do is rebuild totals. Kinda hard to catch, but they probably would'nt bat an eye.

Thanks, Chip. If he doesn't contact me next week, I'll give you a call.

Elliot949 06-24-2016 07:12 PM

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You gotta love body/frame/mechanical shops... they really have a different outlook on things..


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