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Thanks guys!
Some progress, doesn't look like much until you look at the floor... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_3998.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_3997.jpg Sometimes these louvers can be a challenge to sand. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4015.jpg In the spirit of "everything's a tool", a strip of 18 ga steel and a wrap of PSA paper does a good job of getting in the tight spaces. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4016.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4017.jpg Another shot of the scrap pile before I clean it up, this is what went into fabricating the escutcheons.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4019.jpg And now for the reason we didn't post earlier this week, had to make a speed run for Taco Tuesday.. even saw a full rainbow in the process. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...c/IMG_4005.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWrIkyuUBTs Back in the shop this weekend, but we had a distraction in another Meco torch that showed up for sale not three miles away. So needless to say about the only thing accomplished was more welding practice!! http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...g/IMG_4026.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...g/IMG_4028.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9Wf1AbzP3c After planishing... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDy82sixbjQ . |
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Nice score Robert....a rainbow and a meco.......
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Nice find, I'm looking at getting a Meco. Ihaven't done any gas welding since welding school some 20+ years ago. Just curious what does your tank cart look like and tank sizes? Too small and all you get done going and getting them refilled, but i'm limited by space so can't too large and wife say I'm adding on.
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Rick, the O2 bottle is just over 3’ tall, the handle on the cart about 42”
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Thanks Robert, not too big of a foot print, that I couldn't make room.
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Glad to help Rick!
More progress on the wagon, we had ordered some 3/8 Stainless fuel line, which comes in a coil... so we needed to be able to straighten it out as I can see me "unbending" and getting it right.. So I placed an order with McMaster Carr for some pulleys designed for 3/8 rope and using 3/8 bolt hole in the bearing. Part number 59475K51. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4041.jpg A drive mechanism was made using 3/8-16 stainless all-thread, and the slider was cut and re-welded to better fit the 1" square tubing. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4040.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4045.jpg A better view all around of the design, we used three pulleys so this could also serve as a bender as well as straightener.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpgMekrEA3g Then Mike and I did a test run using copper tubing... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FumsneaLJlU Now onto the stainless.... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4057.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4060.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4061.jpg At this point we measured and cut the 20' piece in two so it would be more more manageable. Straightened.... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4064.jpg Now we used the adjustable spline to get the curve of the frame for the proper bend on the stainless... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4066.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4065.jpg A strip of tape applied helps to lock the shape from moving, and the tubing is marked for the radius distance.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4067.jpg The tube is placed back in the new machine to add the radius to match our profile... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4068.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4069.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4072.jpg Adding some of the needed bends... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4081.jpg For some of the interior details, we took delivery of the speaker trim rings from my cousin JB, he did a nice job cutting these out for us... They still need holes drilled, stainless mesh cut to fit, and polishing... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4075.jpg ....and our Mopar door clips we were going to use for the rear arm rests turned out to be a bit brittle, most snapped off rather than pull back through the hole. So we ordered the similar GM version, keeping our fingers crossed... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4078.jpg Alas, in my typical Murphy strikes again mode, these were slightly smaller and/or the holes already located in the kick panels were slightly gaping.. We searched the entire shop for a MacGyver solution and found that a 3/8-16 hex nut did a good job of "capturing" the clip, but without the "not letting go" part that a hole in sheet metal provides if the clip rotates slightly while in the hole. So some 3/8 stainless nuts were machined so that they could be welded into the kick panel and yet have the thread grip flush at the surface. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4079.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4082.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4084.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4085.jpg |
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nice job Robert....that tubing jig is a nice touch
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That tubing bender/straightener! :metal:
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Thanks guys!
Saturday we got the tank installed so we could get a good reading on where it locates in relation to the body mounts in front of the axle. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4114.jpg We also pulled a pattern from the body mount so we could bend the lines around it accurately. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4111.jpg Highly technical drawing showing our tank location... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4121.jpg Tank located per our drawing in relation to body mount.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4123.jpg The more I look at this, the less I wanted to use the braided lines between the hard line and the tank. I'm just not comfortable with another fitting in the vicinity of the tail pipes. So back up and punt, looks like we're getting new tubing and bending again. The last lines weren't long enough to make it back to the tank, so we'll chalk them up as practice pieces, learning curve, if you will... Here the Body mount pattern is bolted up, the lines will make a bend behind this body mount, travel across to the middle, and then toward the back where it will attach directly to the tank. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4124.jpg The lines will come close to the passenger tail pipe, so we'll add a heat shield. I visited a local motorcycle shop and picked up a donor... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4132.jpg trimmed to fit... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4129.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4130.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4131.jpg That should do. Next, we need to finish the kick panels for upholstery, which means mounting the speakers. The trim rings from cousin JB will need holes drilled to match the speakers. We have some button head allen screws we plan on using, but didn't really care for the surface mounted look... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4119.jpg This would look so much better with the details of counterbored holes. Alas, the pitfalls of working on Saturdays without a local source. What's a person to do but make their own. The extended die grinder almost fits the Aloris tool holder too well, like it was made to be. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q38H...ature=youtu.be A 120 grit roloc sanding disc does well to backface the cutting edge and we are in business.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4127.jpg Much better, all in the details.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4120.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4126.jpg ….and adding the tweeters to the kick panel... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4128.jpg |
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Very nice as always...Jim
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Thanks Jim!
Took delivery yesterday of the 304 Stainless mesh for the speaker grills. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4143.jpg Just like we used different widths on the trim rings so they would be proportional to the diameter, with the mesh we used three different sizes as well.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4150.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4149.jpg For the bass speaker grill we are also adding a BelAir emblem. The mesh will be recessed for that so the emblem is flush, then the remaining mesh will be pressed outward so it is flush with the surface of the trim ring. (or so) Now for the unofficial poll, would you orient the mesh straight across/up and down, or at a 45 degree rotation? http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4145.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4146.jpg |
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I like it on the 45 degree...Jim
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Robert, I'm going with the 45 degree rotation, but I'm sure the people with OCD will opt for straight.:haha:
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Rick, my OCD must be off kilter, I can look at the straight and see 45* in it... :lol:
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45....
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I like the 45 as well
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45
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Thanks to all for their input on the speaker grilles, the owner has decided on the 45* rotation. Our other choice to ponder was whether to use chrome, polished, or brushed finish. We clamped some of the rings in the lathe and gave it a brushed finish, others were polished so we can compare..
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4177.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4178.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4179.jpg Here it was decided to go with the polished over brushed, and for ease of maintenance, we opted for chrome plating. So all the holes were drilled, counterbored, and transferred to their respective mounting location. The tweeter trim rings will be held in place with 6-32 hardware, the mids use 8-32, and the sub uses 10-32. Rivet nuts were installed where needed.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4164.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4180.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4181.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4182.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4184.jpg With the trim rings ready to send for plating, we turned our attention to the fuel lines, where we wanted a direct run all the way to the tank. Our bending efforts found Mike in a bit of a stretch.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4185.jpg The fuel line passes behind the body mount, we have a heat deflector in place where it passes over the tail pipe, and then it will connect directly to the tank. They will be secured with adel clamps fastened to the floor braces from underneath. Return line in place, supply line to go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbUxujdz2PU . |
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chrome rings sure will look good...but im kinda liking the brushed look myself...and after the quote I got to rechrome some mirrors I probably would go brushed
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Had a slight distraction yesterday, a couple hood sides for a 37 Ford showed up. The owner wanted to remove the side "grille", and add a tapered recess pan with clamshell louvers. Here's what we started with...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...s/IMG_4192.jpg Some cutoff wheel action later.... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...s/IMG_4195.jpg In an attempt to keep as much metal on the ends as possible, we opted to flatten the sad remains of the horizontal fins. This involved some shrinking via the heating tip in the dent puller.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...s/IMG_4199.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...s/IMG_4200.jpg Looks like someone has spilled bondo all over this panel. Funny the inside didn't look all that mangled to warrant the amount we found.. Must be a TV car.. The shrinking efforts flattened out the ends fairly well... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...s/IMG_4201.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...s/IMG_4202.jpg I filled in the previous trim holes with 18 Ga plugs and TIG fusion while the owner worked away at removing the bondo so we could see what we had to work with... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...s/IMG_4207.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...s/IMG_4208.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...s/IMG_4209.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...s/IMG_4211.jpg Next, we had to fold a flange in the front and extend the factory bead around the opening down the front where we had flattened the panel. Some of the existing bead profiles had seen better days in the past 80 plus years, so I checked a set of joggle dies I had made for drip rail as it looked close... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...s/IMG_4213.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...s/IMG_4214.jpg New flange folded at the front, bead added using the Lennox, original beads touched up ... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...s/IMG_4219.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...s/IMG_4223.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...s/IMG_4222.jpg Tapered pan fabricated..... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...s/IMG_4226.jpg Louver layout http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...s/IMG_4228.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...s/IMG_4229.jpg Welded in place.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...s/IMG_4230.jpg He is having some art deco style trim pieces made to accent the louvers down the center, topped by 62 Impala fender trim. We didn't have those, so here it is with alternate SS fuel line for your viewing pleasure... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...s/IMG_4232.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...s/IMG_4234.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...s/IMG_4235.jpg |
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That's cool...would like to see the finished product.....
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Robert, very nice, really changed the look of side panel...Jim
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Thanks for checking out the progress guys!
Well the owner sent me a "concept photo" complete with cardboard cutout... The piece of cardboard against the hood side will be chrome plated, the next will be a contrasting color to the car, and topped off with the Impala fender trim.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16.../IMG_E4239.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...s/IMG_4280.jpg |
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More progress on the fuel lines, with both lines now routed, we opted for glue lined heat shrink as an abrasion resistant covering where it passes closely to the body, and regular heat shrink to keep the two together.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4277.jpg Mike installs an anchor point for adel clamps in the shock crossmember http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4267.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4268.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4270.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4271.jpg Test bends at the fuel pump.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4272.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4273.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4274.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...7/IMG_4275.jpg Next to add some AN fittings.. |
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So many great ideas and excellent work you share. Greatly appreciated!
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