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Strodder 05-18-2010 10:57 PM

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Hey Pop you make me want a beer. :lol:

Ru5tyNut5 05-18-2010 11:00 PM

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Strodder 05-18-2010 11:11 PM

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Cheers :alc:

bubba327 05-18-2010 11:43 PM

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Dave --If you still have more paint, I can send you stuff that needs painted. We need more pictures of this painted stuff...
.:wop:

daverod 05-19-2010 08:59 AM

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I've been doing everything but working on my truck. Yardwork, real work, shoeing the horses-trying to get in a bear hunt or two, practicing my Guitar Hero.:lol:I'm up to "hard "now. Guy in a brown truck brought my a set of rockers from ebay. Still waiting on my 2" lowering blocks. Should get some truck stuff done the next 5 days.:metal: Unless I have to go to work.:mm:

Ru5tyNut5 05-19-2010 06:01 PM

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where is Pocatello, northern or southern Idaho? closer to Spokane WA or some place in Oregon?

daverod 05-19-2010 06:16 PM

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SE idaho.; I thought Vancouver was in Canada?

daverod 05-19-2010 06:23 PM

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For you Bubba.;) Damn that's a good looking dog.:lol:

bubba327 05-19-2010 07:55 PM

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Yup -You have a good looking dog..
I always have Queensland Heelers or Australian Shepherds. They are your constant shadow around the place. You are never alone as they are always following at your heels. watchdogs of the top order. Heck she is asleep on my foot as I type this
Directions to Pocatello..C'mon now it's a lovely place halfway to the end of the road....

Ru5tyNut5 05-19-2010 08:52 PM

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SE idaho.; I thought Vancouver was in Canada?

there is a Vancouver in Canada, it's Vancouver BC....I live in Vancouver Washington which is basically Portland Oregon, all that seperates us is the Columbia River. I'm about 5 hours south of the Canada border and about 5 hours north of the California border. I'm about an hour and a half from the ocean and a long ass ways from you. :metal:

daverod 05-20-2010 12:00 AM

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Got some done today.;)

Strodder 05-20-2010 12:23 AM

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Looken good Dave. :bann:

daverod 05-20-2010 12:28 AM

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Thanks. I guess my next thing is to level my engine ,shim my trans and weld the brackets on for axle for my link arms?:uhmk: Not to sure about all that.

daverod 05-20-2010 01:33 PM

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2 hours into it and a ton of questions.;) 1) Does the engine need to sit level? I thinking no because if it does I need to shim my trans up 1 1/2". I did'nt really change the postion of the engine. 2) How do I know where to weld the bracket onto the axle? It seems that if I adjust the bottom 4 link arms in or out I can change the angle of the diff. that way. If that is true it's not really that critical where the brackets are mounted? I really have no idea.:lol: I guess I better start doing some research. Thought I'd start here.:dum::buh:

I did change my transmission cross member so maybe I do need to shim it up 1 1/2?

Ru5tyNut5 05-20-2010 03:04 PM

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I think your motor is supposed to be like 5 or 6 degrees down in the back. as far as the link bars or at least the brackets, I attached the front of mine where the front of the leaf used to mount, made sure the rear end was in the right spot, adjusted the link bar ends to the middle of their adjustment range, attached the bracket to the link bar and used a jack to hold it up against the axle. it doesn't matter exactly where you put it I guess as long as you leave yourself room to adjust your link bars in either direction.

daverod 05-20-2010 04:09 PM

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I'm pretty sure the carb needs to level. If I do that the trans/engine is sitting at 4* tilt to the back. This much I know.:lol::smoke::smoke: Found a couple shims, looks like I need about two more. Good thing I have two trucks to work on my blocks just got here.:metal: How hard could that be.:lol: Guess I'm doing blocks now.

daverod 05-20-2010 07:09 PM

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Things got alittle :me::lol: Kinda sucks not having a bumper,or a jack that cost more than $40. Had to cut the bolts off so I could get a socket on to tighten it up good . I guess they make them that way just for the fun of it.:lol: I know a deep socket would have worked but I was lucky to have a 1 1/8 reg one.:smoke:
Duct tape, saws- all, grinder and a good time was had by all. Could'nt find any wire.

Went for a test drive, I can see a notch in the furture. Just have to be alittle more careful. Ended up taking my rubber bumpers out. I like the looks better,I'll post a picture tomorrow.

tommys66 05-20-2010 09:56 PM

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Paint looks good man, dig the blocks in the rear. good idea:metal: you are right on the -4 degrees for the engine.

bubba327 05-20-2010 10:56 PM

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Do not forget those tires!! When they are replaced to something more permanent they may change the angles.
Is there a rubber spacer on the transmission mount ?? My TH 350 used a rubber mount block about 1" thick between the tailpiece brace and the crossbar.
I like all the Orange paint! but you should be using Blue as Blue and Orange are the colors of Boise State University . Rated number 2 in the nation in preseason football polls
Go Broncos!!

daverod 05-20-2010 11:02 PM

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Do not forget those tires!! When they are replaced to something more permanent they may change the angles.
Is there a rubber spacer on the transmission mount ?? My TH 350 used a rubber mount block about 1" thick between the tailpiece brace and the crossbar.
I like all the Orange paint! but you should be using Blue as Blue and Orange are the colors of Boise State University . Rated number 2 in the nation in preseason football polls
Go Broncos!!

Yes it has a rubber trans mount. I think the problem is the trans cross member is a new style so you can run the exhaust in the frame. I think I'll just have to shim it up.:ito: My tires are 29" tall thats going to be about the size I want. I set my frame to my ride height. When you mess with the air bags up can change the rake to what ever you want so I don't know how important a level carb is?

bubba327 05-20-2010 11:25 PM

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Attachment 587293 I cannot tell by your picture of the crossmember but it appears similar to mine I just installed in the 64 . My TH350 sits on the rubber brace about 1" thick but I have not checked motor / trans angles.
I drilled and welded a 1/2 I.D. pipe through my crossmember before installing it to use as a E-brake anchor point and fabbed up the rest of the E-brake parts

daverod 05-21-2010 10:05 AM

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That looks just like my cross member. Have you put a level on your carb to see if it's level? With 2 shims my carbs close to level and my trans is at 5.5*. I'm going to get a couple more shims today.
Went to the junk yard no shims.:lol: Whats up with that. I had two sitting in my garage.:lol: Also found a chevy 350 trans I did'nt even know I had.:lol: Guess I'll make some.:uhmk:
-2 on the 64's rear end. I'm thinking thats as low as you can go with static stuff.

bubba327 05-21-2010 09:46 PM

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My magnetic angle finder (like yours) is on my service truck at work, I will bring it home Monday and check angles.
Just a rough once-over tonight with a torpedo level shows that my engine is lower in the rear.It is hard to say how much at this time.
I had to measure off the valve cover of the inline 6 cylinder as the carb is 1 barrel monojet right now and too small to balance the level. My driveway has a negative fall , the bed of the truck is removed and new rear springs and tires have it tail high right now. taking all that in-- it still looks lower to the rear of the motor.

daverod 05-21-2010 10:12 PM

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My magnetic angle finder (like yours) is on my service truck at work, I will bring it home Monday and check angles.
Just a rough once-over tonight with a torpedo level shows that my engine is lower in the rear.It is hard to say how much at this time.
I had to measure off the valve cover of the inline 6 cylinder as the carb is 1 barrel monojet right now and too small to balance the level. My driveway has a negative fall , the bed of the truck is removed and new rear springs and tires have it tail high right now. taking all that in-- it still looks lower to the rear of the motor.

I read the engine tilts back but the manifold on a v8 is made to account for the tilt. Thats why the carb sits level and the transmission is at 4*. I'm not sure about a 6.;) I was looking at trans mounts. Brothers has one that is taller they even say it works ideal for the new crossmember. All I saw was the $39 price tag the rubber one was $9. You know which one I bought. Made some shims. It's all good.

bubba327 05-21-2010 10:35 PM

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How does the carb stay level when you are playing with the the bags and doing wheel hops or one side down and one side up????
seriously i think the driveline yolk angle is all you need to watch.. the drive line needs to be offset or angled . Anything but spinning true and straight yoke to yoke. the U-joints will not last long.
There are several threads on here about driveline angles

daverod 05-21-2010 11:14 PM

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How does the carb stay level when you are playing with the the bags and doing wheel hops or one side down and one side up????
seriously i think the driveline yolk angle is all you need to watch.. the drive line needs to be offset or angled . Anything but spinning true and straight yoke to yoke. the U-joints will not last long.
There are several threads on here about driveline angles

Accually they don't work if everything is straight. The needle bearing in the ujoints wont spin. You want some angle just not a lot. So far as the carb being level I dont think thats to imporant but the trans mission being a 4* is. When compared to the rest of the drive line set up that angle doesn't really change when you are messing with the bags. I've been reading.;) I hope I'm learning. But you already knew all that. I read what you said wrong. It's not as if I'm going to be putting 15 to 20,000 mile a year on it anyway.

watahyahknow 05-21-2010 11:58 PM

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there some special yokes available for off road aplications that can still operate under extreme angles maibe thats an idea

ruffrida2005 05-22-2010 03:38 PM

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Looking good Dave.

For the angle of the dangles he's the ? you need to ask. Are you running a 1 or 2 peice driveshaft? If a 1 peice. The trans needs to sit at 3* Down and the Pinion on the diff needs to be at 3* up. With that being said you man run into problems running your exhaust with your crossmember if you move it up. If you just shim it up you'll be fine.

You may have to cut the trans tunnel up a little more not sure since the trans is going to be sitting higher up now.

I cant really tell you about a 2 peice drive shaft.

If you dont want to shim it up then you can run a CV joint off the trans that will give the drive shaft more flex and take out the vibration of not having the correct angles.

All this info is coming from Jason and Nate, so you can ask more queistions about it. Also take a look at my thread or Creeps and you'll find that info on there from Nate.

daverod 05-22-2010 03:40 PM

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I'm doing a two piece.:ito:

ruffrida2005 05-22-2010 03:48 PM

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If I'm not wrong either Bazooka or Creep is doing a 2 peice so I would check with them. or even PM Nate he's always willing to help.

daverod 05-23-2010 10:31 AM

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:smoke:

scotts62 05-23-2010 10:32 AM

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:lol: yeah but then you do like i do all the time and leave what you were needing at work :lol:

daverod 05-23-2010 10:34 AM

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Sometimes I really wish I had air tools. Someday.;)

daverod 05-23-2010 10:37 AM

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:lol: yeah but then you do like i do all the time and leave what you were needing at work :lol:

I guess I should have said I need big a$$ air compressor at home, with all the tools that go with it.:lol:

scotts62 05-23-2010 10:43 AM

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I guess I should have said I need big a$$ air compressor at home, with all the tools that go with it.:lol:

There ya go now your talkin! :lol:

bubba327 05-23-2010 10:56 PM

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Geez Dave If we split the cost of the tools it would not be too bad .. the killer part would be the 300 miles of air line we would need to share stuff .
I hope you did not Jinx my compressor.......... it started making strange noises today and seemed to take a long time to reach pressure..kinda sounded like the valves might be going bad .
It has every right to quit... it is an old Montgomery -Wards working on it's second tank. The first tank finally rusted out:lol:

daverod 05-23-2010 11:06 PM

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Put a new filter and seal on my transmission. Bought a new flex plate.;) Learned why you put a fuse in the line going to the choke.:lol:

daverod 05-23-2010 11:16 PM

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:waah: Today started off sucking and went down hill from there.:lol: Piece of metal got suck in my carb. took it off and cleaned the jet out. Forgot to hook the choke wire back up.:smoke:smoke::devil::smoke: Went for a test drive.:lol: Smoke was so thick could'nt see out the window. Fixed that. Then I tried to remove what I thought was the seal in my "old transmission". By the time I figured out it was'nt the seal I was changing it was to late. Good thing I had a extra trans.:lol: Any ideas of what I did to the "old trans".:uhmk:

scotts62 05-23-2010 11:25 PM

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Holy crap what did you pull out of there its guts?? :lol: :lol:

daverod 05-23-2010 11:31 PM

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Holy crap what did you pull out of there its guts?? :lol: :lol:

:lol::lol: To tell you the truth I don't know what I pulled out. It started with a screw driver and ended with vise grips and a hammer.:lol::lol: What ever is in back is the seal is ah, half hanging out.


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