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SCOTI 03-16-2019 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by gringoloco (Post 8488273)
The last can I used was ordered from a Corvette restoration shop, as those cars used the same blue metallic vinyl. I don’t know how close this vinyl I’ve ordered will match the stock stuff, though, which is why I had them go ahead and re-cover the visors and dash pad, too. I can do a comparison against my armrests, which were painted with the rattle can, once the new pieces arrive.

I'll watch for the updates. Thanks!

Last_Paladin 03-16-2019 08:12 PM

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Did I miss it? How'd you get a MAF into the air cleaner?

gringoloco 03-16-2019 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by knomadd (Post 8488304)
You can do it! It doesn't have to be "done." It doesn't even have to run, but it's a lot easier to get in and out if it does.

I’ll just be happy to have it together enough to get on a trailer in a couple of months
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I'll watch for the updates. Thanks!

No worries, should have everything in a few weeks
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Did I miss it? How'd you get a MAF into the air cleaner?

MAF-less, speed-density via Fitech, but Holley’s new Terminator X is looking pretty good to me now. Check out dayj1’s “another way to skin the cat” thread for a good example of how to hide the MAF in a tall air cleaner. I’ve also seen guys use the cartridge type in the snorkel

gringoloco 03-16-2019 10:12 PM

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My new bellhousing arrived and I got right to bolting it on and stabbing the transmission. You can see just under the top-most bolt where the alloy unit has more clearance than the old Lakewood steel one. This is where the rear cover bolts needed some wiggle room. The new one is from Silver Sport, and is made specifically for LS to Muncie conversions. Should also work well with a TKO, if/when I decide to go that route and saves what feels like 60 lbs...

No pictures of the hydraulic throw out, but it set up beautifully with proper clearance. I couldn’t resist bolting up the Hurst shifter and pretending to row through the gears :burnout:

gringoloco 03-16-2019 10:20 PM

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...and a few shots of the engine sitting in its rightful place. I particularly like the last one showing how nicely everything tucks up with the dropmember.

smbrouss70 03-17-2019 12:02 PM

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You are making me want to do an LS swap....

gringoloco 03-17-2019 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by smbrouss70 (Post 8488900)
You are making me want to do an LS swap....

Jump on in, everybody’s doing it! Once this junk is “done”, I’ll be happy to come help :mm:

SCOTI 03-17-2019 02:20 PM

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Swap is looking on point!

shearjs 03-17-2019 03:41 PM

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Everything looks great! What size is that booster/master set up? Is that a captain fab bracket hiding behind?

gringoloco 03-18-2019 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SCOTI (Post 8488980)
Swap is looking on point!

Thanks Scoti!
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Originally Posted by shearjs (Post 8489027)
Everything looks great! What size is that booster/master set up? Is that a captain fab bracket hiding behind?

Thanks, the booster is a 9” dual diaphragm from inline tube, wilwood master, and captainfab bracket with integrated clutch master

aggie91 03-18-2019 11:37 AM

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Looking good from here!

Nice job Chris.

lks dcvn 03-19-2019 10:01 PM

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Just spent the last week going through this build thread and found myself writing down ideas to follow up on and parts to look into for a few of my builds.

Excellent work on all fronts Chris - you are doing top notch stuff!

What shifter boot are you considering for the Muncie? I replaced the one in the 70 GMC Jimmy with a new one (Amazon cheapie) and it ripped after using it for driving in/out of the garage... I should have known.

TA_C10 03-19-2019 10:06 PM

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That engine is looking sick in the bay man. Top Notch.


:chevy:

gringoloco 03-19-2019 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by aggie91 (Post 8489624)
Looking good from here!

Nice job Chris.

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Originally Posted by TA_C10 (Post 8490629)
That engine is looking sick in the bay man. Top Notch.


:chevy:

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Originally Posted by lks dcvn (Post 8490627)
Just spent the last week going through this build thread and found myself writing down ideas to follow up on and parts to look into for a few of my builds.

Excellent work on all fronts Chris - you are doing top notch stuff!

What shifter boot are you considering for the Muncie? I replaced the one in the 70 GMC Jimmy with a new one (Amazon cheapie) and it ripped after using it for driving in/out of the garage... I should have known.

Thanks for the compliments, everyone. I just do the things I think are cool, I’m glad others seem to like it as well :cool:

As for the shift boot, the plan is for a factory (or re-pop, most likely) oval-shaped 4wd boot and trim ring, just keeping with the stock-ish theme. Hurst makes this handy little piece to adapt the flat handle to a round-ish boot hole:

https://www.hurstshiftersonline.com/...ommet-p590.htm

gringoloco 03-19-2019 11:48 PM

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Had some power steering hoses made-up at the local hydraulics shop yesterday. Quick turn, cheap, and fit nicely. The high-side snakes behind the tensioner bracket, while low side has a pretty much straight shot to the reservoir.

That allowed pressing-on of the pump pulley and then measuring for the serpentine belt. I’m happy to report that it only took two trips to the LAPS to get the right one :lol: Baby steps...

C10_ustacould 03-20-2019 03:28 PM

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You're killing it Chris, one step at a time. Your patience and eye for detail are paying off for sure!

rustytruck50 03-21-2019 03:50 PM

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Wow...the fit of the engine in that drop member is perfect....I dont know if you could even fab something remotely close to that at home!

gringoloco 03-21-2019 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by C10_ustacould (Post 8491034)
You're killing it Chris, one step at a time. Your patience and eye for detail are paying off for sure!

Thanks, buddy! I may have to back off on the detail work for a bit, it’s time to get this beast running!
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Originally Posted by rustytruck50 (Post 8491718)
Wow...the fit of the engine in that drop member is perfect....I dont know if you could even fab something remotely close to that at home!

Not with my skill set, I know my limitations :lol: Definitely a high quality product

halfstep 04-05-2019 11:06 AM

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Great truck - great work!

...saw that you had some questions re. the clutch rod angle set up on another post and I'm working on the same subject so I thought I'd get you some photo's of an alternative set up - couldn't send photo's via PM so I'm using this post. Might help you and/or others:

This is the NO LIMIT this set up for hydraulic clutch and looks much more straightforward - pulls the clutch master up higher, rod is straight, is on a flatter firewall area and uses the more popular mounting style master which allows for larger and/or remote reservoir. Plate is 3/16"

gringoloco 04-05-2019 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by halfstep (Post 8501251)
Great truck - great work!

...saw that you had some questions re. the clutch rod angle set up on another post and I'm working on the same subject so I thought I'd get you some photo's of an alternative set up - couldn't send photo's via PM so I'm using this post. Might help you and/or others:

This is the NO LIMIT this set up for hydraulic clutch and looks much more straightforward - pulls the clutch master up higher, rod is straight, is on a flatter firewall area and uses the more popular mounting style master which allows for larger and/or remote reservoir. Plate is 3/16"

Appreciate the compliments :D The NL stuff looks nice, wish I’d known there was another option. I’m pretty far down the road with my current setup, so I’m running with it for now. Thanks for the heads-up!

gringoloco 04-10-2019 12:18 PM

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These things always come apart easier than they go back together... it’s getting a full inspection, cleanup, and reseal before getting stabbed back in for the (hopefully) last time. Finding lots of little things wrong, so I’m glad I decided to tear into it. Fingers crossed for full function and no leaks :chevy:

smbrouss70 04-10-2019 03:38 PM

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Get it taken care of before it hits the road. Smart guy!

mcbassin 04-12-2019 03:11 PM

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Awesome progress Chris! :metal: digging the stick shift!

gringoloco 04-12-2019 05:12 PM

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Get it taken care of before it hits the road. Smart guy!

Well, I don’t know if I’m smart so much as I hate leaks. Prolly should have chosen a different trans for that, as I’m learning that marking territory is part of the Muncie charm, but I’m doing everything I can to make it as dry as possible. Maybe someday I’ll grab a t56 or TKO cheap...
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Awesome progress Chris! :metal: digging the stick shift!

Thanks a lot, I’m just ready to get it stabbed and get to rowin’ gears :burnout:

On that note, it’s back together with no major parts still laying on the bench, seems to be functioning properly, and is almost ready to stab. Need to torque a new front bearing nut and plumb the hydro throwout first...

gringoloco 04-14-2019 07:37 PM

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Got the hydro slave all setup and plumbed, then stabbed the tranny back in for the (fingers-crossed) last time. Once it was in place, I got to assembling the entirely too complicated Hurst shift linkages. I am happy to report that it all seems to be working properly and that the throw is actually nice and compact, despite the extra-long shift lever.

gringoloco 04-14-2019 08:01 PM

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...and fabbed up a mounting bracket for a modified set of ICT Billet coil relocators to bolt to the back of the cylinder heads. These are designed to stack the coils in a row; I rearranged them to suit my needs and to fit the space I have available. Mounted them back where a distributor would be to maintain the small-block ruse :chevy:

TexasLS1 04-14-2019 08:10 PM

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Holy crap that is awesome

cornerstone 04-15-2019 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TexasLS1 (Post 8507055)
Holy crap that is awesome

Yes it is.

gringoloco 04-15-2019 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TexasLS1 (Post 8507055)
Holy crap that is awesome

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Yes it is.

Thanks dudes! We won’t talk about how many different ways I flipped the coils and brackets around before settling on this setup that just barely fits, but fit it does...

65StreetCruiser 04-15-2019 08:44 PM

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The end result is all that matters, my friend! Everything that you are doing is spot on!

gringoloco 04-15-2019 11:54 PM

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The end result is all that matters, my friend! Everything that you are doing is spot on!

Thanks, Kevin. Much appreciated. Let’s just see if it actually runs and drives after all of this...

Still chipping away as I poked a couple of 9/16” holes in my nice, shiny valve covers tonight for the PCV system. More to come on this as I finish up with all of the plumbing hopefully tomorrow.

The -6an bulkhead elbow fittings are on the back side of the valve covers, near the firewall where it is starting to get a little crowded. What’s that saying about putting 10 lbs of something in a 5 lb sack?

67chevemall 04-16-2019 02:56 PM

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Stellar man. Looks great! good work.
And thanks for taking that bed off, I was worried at first.
3 hours later page 77 all is great

67chevemall 04-16-2019 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gringoloco (Post 8507026)
Got the hydro slave all setup and plumbed, then stabbed the tranny back in for the (fingers-crossed) last time. Once it was in place, I got to assembling the entirely too complicated Hurst shift linkages. I am happy to report that it all seems to be working properly and that the throw is actually nice and compact, despite the extra-long shift lever.

Please show more of the throw out bearing set up when you can.
Complete awesomeness.

gringoloco 04-17-2019 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 67chevemall (Post 8508319)
Stellar man. Looks great! good work.
And thanks for taking that bed off, I was worried at first.
3 hours later page 77 all is great

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Please show more of the throw out bearing set up when you can.
Complete awesomeness.

Haha, yep, that bed had to go! Thanks for hopping in and appreciate the positive comments :cool:

As for the hydro TOB, it is a Ram 78125HD, which reviews well, is rebuildable, and looks and feels like a quality unit. It setup nice and easy using all but one of the provided shims, though I did have to extend the locating pin. No real pictures of it at this point as it is tucked away safely inside the bell housing. Will update here once it’s all bled and (hopefully) functioning properly.

knomadd 04-17-2019 12:59 PM

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Nice work on the coils. I had that idea floating around in my head but thought it would be too difficult and time consuming, so I moved on. Looks like it worked out great! Maybe I should rethink this...:uhmk:

Do you have some sort of baffle on the valve cover fittings to keep oil from coming out through those fittings?

gringoloco 04-17-2019 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by knomadd (Post 8508900)
Nice work on the coils. I had that idea floating around in my head but thought it would be too difficult and time consuming, so I moved on. Looks like it worked out great! Maybe I should rethink this...:uhmk:

Do you have some sort of baffle on the valve cover fittings to keep oil from coming out through those fittings?

The coils honestly weren’t too big of a deal to do. I think if I took some more time, I could come up with something a little more compact, but this worked well for a modified off-the-shelf solution.

As for the PCV fittings, yes, the “dirty” side will be baffled, using vacuum hose connected to the internal valvecover baffle (pictures of this coming soon). The “clean” side shouldn’t need to be baffled, as it will only be providing fresh air into the crankcase. I also decided to use Earl’s stat-o-seals (rubber o-ringed crush washers) on the fittings to help quell any oil leaks at the bulkhead pass-through.

gringoloco 04-18-2019 06:30 PM

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Special delivery today, couldn’t help but to go ahead and install the “easy” stuff:

65StreetCruiser 04-18-2019 09:15 PM

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Wow!

gringoloco 04-18-2019 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by knomadd (Post 8508900)
Do you have some sort of baffle on the valve cover fittings to keep oil from coming out through those fittings?

Here’s that info/pictures:

-6an bulkhead elbow with 3/8” barb adapters on both ends, then drilled/tapped the valve cover baffle for a 1/8” npt x 3/8” barb elbow, and connected them with a piece of 3/8” silicone hose held on with oetiker clamps. Pretty simple setup that I hope keeps the oil out of the PCV, if not it will just help keep the spark plugs lubricated :lol:

sprint_9 04-18-2019 10:47 PM

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I like how the coils turned out. You have so much room with that intake, lol, it looks like a dream to work on compared to mine.

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Originally Posted by gringoloco (Post 8509147)
As for the PCV fittings, yes, the “dirty” side will be baffled, using vacuum hose connected to the internal valvecover baffle (pictures of this coming soon). The “clean” side shouldn’t need to be baffled, as it will only be providing fresh air into the crankcase. I also decided to use Earl’s stat-o-seals (rubber o-ringed crush washers) on the fittings to help quell any oil leaks at the bulkhead pass-through.

I would baffle the clean side as well. Under certain conditions (WOT) it will pull a vacuum on that side. Its a smaller percentage of oil loss through the clean side but it will still make a mess over time.


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