Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 

well i finally got something done! i got my truck back monday, and the past few days i been tearing apart my front suspension...again...to make room for the cupped lca's and new drop spindles

so, now i got my porterbuilt notch, bridge bars, and shock tabs welded in. front suspension is out to make way for the new stuff.

heres some pics...

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...4-21192351.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...4-21192404.jpg

as you can see, that old panhard bar needs to come off! its pushing my axle over so i kinda left the shock nuts off so its doesnt bend anything up..
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...4-21192437.jpg

and my pile of old, ugly stock stuff...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...4-21192416.jpg

thats it for now, ill be sanding the dust shield and bag plates to get em ready for paint, then i can start bolting stuff back up. i still need new shocks, upper ball joints, and i might get the tie rods and adjusters and blah blah, the rest of that crap around there lol

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 

Keep up the good work! It's coming together....or is that coming apart :lol: nicely.

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 

well to keep myself busy and not waste any time, i figured i would try and get some stuff done outback while i wait to get the rest of the front end rebuild stuff.

i finally got my tank mounting bracket drilled to the frame, along with the 2" spacers to keep it from hitting the ground lol.

also made this cool (well i think so) valve bank thingy...i was going to put 2 in each corner close to the bag but was convinced otherwise, so i figured i would make this.

i know my camera skills arent all that, and im using my phone so bare with the horrible pics.

heres the valves...

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...4-25164455.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...4-25164517.jpg

tank bracket bolted up..and unfortunately this is how i have to run the lines in. 1/2" is an effer to bend right, so i had to make big loops lol. i hope it should be ok this way, this pic only shows 2 in, ill finish the rest up tomorrow when i get off work.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...4-26170406.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...4-26170414.jpg

and the question of the day. since i have to run my airlines the way they are...is the leader hose being that far away ok? i cant really run the leader anywhere else. the airlines are inside the frame, and the leader is just outside, so a few inches away im guessing. i can clamp them down if i need to...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...4-26170325.jpg

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 

I would get a few more 90's and shorten them up if it were me but someone with more air ride experience will hopefully chime in.

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 

i thought about doing that also, but i really didnt want to buy more fittings lol. also i didnt want to run a chance of another fitting that could possibly leak.

i will do it if someone chimes in and says that its not safe or there is something wrong (other thatn its not very appealing) with running them this way..

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 

make sure you route that d.o.t air line carefully, stuff is pretty durable but does not like any rubbing. make sure you cut it square, i have seen that stuff splinter like a piece of wood.

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 

well i hope this turns out ok...i got all my airlines (with the exception of the valve to front bags since they arent in yet) hooked up to the tank, rear bags, and valves. bolted down and grounded the compressor, and started running some wires to the front for the valves but got super lazy because i didnt feel like drilling anymore damn holes for the hose clamps lol

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...4-28184208.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...4-28184243.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...4-28184302.jpg

what do you guys think?

im hoping i can get these wires ran by the beginning of the next week but i dont get a lot of time to play with this after work, weekends is when i can really tear into it.

also, can someone post up a color diagram of the eai 5 button switchbox? i cant find the original box to mine so i lost the diagram. thanks in advance!

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 

Looking good Kev, cant wait to see some pics when it is all dropped! ...I kinda tend to get lazy too after a few cold ones...;)

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 

little progress, took most of the day actually lol. got all the ground wires for the valves grounded and bolted down. also bolted down the relay and ran the wire for the compressor to the relay, the wire from the relay to the battery, and the pressure switch wire to the relay. just have to run the toggle switch to the relay but i have to get one first lol. also bolted down a hook to hold the leader hose so it doesnt get near my airlines. anywho..here we go

standback shot of the power wire. i clamped it down in the back, then once it got in front of the bags i just zip tied it along the brake line that runs to the front.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...5-01181842.jpg

closeup of the hook for the leader hose..

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...5-01181851.jpg

closeup of the grounding of the valves, and the relay...

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...5-01181858.jpg

what you guys think?

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 

Looking good! Did you get your panhard bar mount figures out?

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 

good progress! you hook it all up and try it yet?

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 

whats up rob?

i havent taken the old one off yet..but i jacked the truck up in the rear and removed my shocks. i wasnt comfortable with my bag and shocks twisting like that. im actually gonna take it off tomorrow and try to mock up the new one in the stock position. that should let me know if it will work or not. out of all the people i pmed about on this issue, i got about 50/50 that it will work in the stock position as opposed to running it bolted to the ds of the frame and running it into a bracket on the ps trailing arm. so not a whole lot of resolving yet lol

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 

thanks. as bad as i want to i havent tried it yet. i still have to run the wires for the switchbox but i cant find my color diagram lol. so waiting til i find one. its super close though! i was hoping to have it done today but im really taking my time on it...

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 

finished up all the wiring for valves, i sure i hope i marked and ran them right. i really dont wanna track down any mixed up switches lol

the wire loom i bought is too small for all the wires, so its going back for some bigger ones, then ill snap some pics.

i do have a wiring question though. i finally found a wiring diagram for the switchbox off ebay, and got all those wired up. my question is, where is everyone wiring up the power wire from the switchbox? and also, where is everyone wiring the power and ground for the gauges? i made a switch for my compressor (thanks for the help tcb1 and hottrucks) instead of running it to 12v, so i hooked that up in my gauge panel.

i know i know, too many words and no pictures lol. ill put some up tomorrow of the wires without the loom.

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 

Lookin good! That's a fine taste in beer you have there.

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 

lol. ya, drilling those screws for the clamps was really getting under my skin lol

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 

not a big update but i sanded down and painted my calipers. heres a few pics...

heres a pic off of their website..its actually more grey in person...
http://images.oreillyauto.com/parts/...184035-lef.jpg

heres a pic i took before i painted it...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...5-06195202.jpg

and some paint!!
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...5-06211258.jpg

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 

hey guys, i got a quick question. im putting some of my front end stuff back together, just waiting on the rotors which i can get next week. im puttin gmy uca's back on and i kinda forgot how they went lol. i have this pic when i took it all off, and if you notice the right side of the arm is kinda curved, so i was going to put it back on this way..
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...4-21192404.jpg

until i seen this one...(slick67, hope you dont mind!)
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...5&d=1238099150


if i put it on like this...then mine has the curve on the left side, but the bumpstump hole is also on the left side as the above pic.

when i was putting it back on i was going by the bumpstop hole in that picture until i looked back at the picture i took when i took it off. so was mine on wrong or is there something wrong with the one in the pic?


also, my passenger side arm came with 2 shims (fork style) on the left side, 0 on the right. when i looked at my driver side, it had 0 on the left and 1 on the right. is this ok?

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 

Well mine looks curved to the rear ... but I am not sure if there might be an advantage to swapin them, if it was done on purpose.

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 

thats exactly what mine look like. i was waiting on a response so i can tighten them up lol. just waiting on some lca u bolts and my rotors and i can put it all back together. i did get the front bags back in and ran the front lines. working on the gauge line today...maybe some pics later today or tomorrow!

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 

Ya gathering some $$$ to finish the front of mine ... still need p/s gear box , and couplings, and some drilled rotors.

... and let me tell ya Kev, after reviewing your build ... you got mad skills.

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 

might there be a camber and/or alignment issue with switching the uppers like the Bagged photo shows ?

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 

i would think so, or something would be out of line when bolting up the spindle.

well some progress! i got everything painted and slapped on to get a look of how it will be on the ground, and to see if my switches and everything are right. thanks to hottrucks for walking me through wiring up the toggle switch and relay!

i did have one problem, the front driver side air bag leaks, so i will have to take that bag down to see where its coming from. also, my rear bags push over A LOT when its aired out. heres some pics!

little before and after..

before the 2 1/2" drop and spindles, and cupped lca's..
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...IMG00094-1.jpg


after...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...6-12155908.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...6-12155932.jpg

driver bag..
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...6-12160023.jpg

passenger bag...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...6-12160011.jpg

the axle is maybe about an inch off of center, but its still pushed over to far i think. im thinking this double adj. panhard bar isnt long enough. i tried to set it up at about 40 psi in the rear, which im guessing should be ride height. when i fully air everything up, it maxes out at about 70 psi, just raises the fenders about even with the top of tire, if not and inch into the fenders is all this right?

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 

i still need to fully tighten up the suspension, thanks to scoti for helping me get the right bearings for the rotors also!

i did want to move my rear bags over to get a few more inches and still keep the ta setup..so i was thinking of doing something like this..

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...arSusp01-1.jpg

or this..

http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...1&d=1276322569

what bag brackets would i need for this?

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 

hey Kev look'n good the ony thing is that on you cupped LCA you need to remove the rest of the bump stop bracket ( trust me) and make sure the top edge of he welded in cup is Smooooth...when the bag has air in it there will be some tention against the top edge and it will rub a hole in the bag ( I built the same cup)

also move your track bar to the back of your trailing arm..you need to make that bar as long ad you can because of the amount of travel...do what I did tack it up than bring it to your buddy to weld it up..the longer the bar the less side travel

CHANGE OUT your wires I looked at your pics and it maybe ok today but your going to have an issue later...the last thing you want is to try to get under it and fix something later ( grounds are ok)...

don't forgrt the foil beanie trick either...lol

Keep it up looks good

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 

I threw my original bar away lol. I. may need to send this one back, it seems to short.

just out of curiosity, what did I do wrong with the wires?

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 

that wire size is over kill..and isn't designed o be out in the weather it will wick water in...also I think you have slide on connectors...be sure to put some grease on these they will get nasty looking and the connection will be crap...there is not time like not to address this stuff...you can hate me now or later when I say I told you so

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 

oh ok. what kind of grease goes on it? I was gonna put that liquid tape u brush on that u were tellin me about.

and u mean the white wire is overkill? not sure what kind it is but its 12 gauge. changing that one out isn't too big of a problem. I would like to color code it anyways. should i change it to 14 gauge?

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 

anyone have any input on moving the rear bags like that? wondering how much more of a drop I would get.

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 

kev that brush on is good where yo make the crimp connectoer but on the part that slides on you should get some dielelectric grease or pput some white grease on them

the main feed to your relay should be a #12 but if your using that red wire to goto your dash switch panel I would question it...think about that flat 4 trialer wire like we talked about...it lays flat and is prebundled so it makes it easy to route though the truck and its color coded for yea

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 

the red wire only goes to the battery. i have the 12 wire running to the battery also for the toggle, and also on the pressure switch.

where could i buy some of that dieelectric grease or white grease?

oh, i also fixed the leak in the front bag, the line was loose. i grew a pair and pushed the line in all the way and it stopped, so now im getting about 120 psi on full air up.

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 

Lookin' good Kev. If you move the bag in front of the axle you should gain the height of the compressed bag. That should put the trailing arm on the frame. I don't have a bag to measure , but it's about three inches.:chevy:

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 

white grease is the stuff you use on hindges like for your doors...

you should never need the 120 psi...air it up and leave it @ ..say..50 and make sure it stays there

Kev also if you wanted to see how much you could gain pull the bag out but yea the bag is 3" you may run into tire clearance issues...like the sidewall rubbing the outside of the body??

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 

sounds good, ill probably get this panhard bar set first and i really need to roll this thing on some level ground lol. i need to see how much further down the front is than the rear. i think i would rather have a rake look to it than the back squatting....

well right now the tire already goes up into the body area by an inch or 2 ;)
so the grease i can find at o reilly right? i just aired it up that high so the bags can have to most pressure i can put in to check for leaks...checked again now and still no loss of air :metal:

im gonna talk with jeff at cpp to see if i can change out this panhard bar, its about 4-5 inches too short with it fully extended. and i threw my original one away! gay...

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 

rolled the truck back today so i get the motor on the stand and start cleaning it up.

heres a shot of the truck again..

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...6-20115511.jpg

now the motor. i was told its a 305 from a 78 malibu, 30k miles on the rebuild. im just gonna clean it up and paint it black and silver, bought some aluminum valve covers and air cleaner, still need to get the basic stuff like water pump, gaskets, plugs, wires, etc. also got a skip white hei distributor going in.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...6-20175102.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...6-20175249.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...6-20175324.jpg

will be cleaning it up this week hopefully and start assembling next week maybe

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 

wow kev its looking good.... How much long till you get it running?

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 

im hoping within a month. it should be cleaned up and ready to drop in within a few weeks, then i have to pull the old one out. still need a new tank and fuel pump, i dont trust the one thats in there lol

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 

Kev chec out the wrinkle black from VHT?? I think thats the brand?? I got it at auto zone?? anyway I used it on my caddy block an it came out great..pics don't do it justice!! you know I dig the black and silver with chrome...my engine theme was to make it look like a Harley engine...and its close!!

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 

[QUOTE=kev2809;4040047]rolled the truck back today so i get the motor on the stand and start cleaning it up.

heres a shot of the truck again..

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...6-20115511.jpg

that looks really good, cant wait till i can start bagging mine lol. cant wait for mine to sit that low

Re: Project 67 DRGNWGN - 67 Burban!!
 

thanks..the fenders are sitting on my tires so I still have to cut a little out and it should drop a little more