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OKGMC4 03-02-2012 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by robozride (Post 5225419)
Howdy window guru dudes! I have printed the templates and makimng the decoy was a breeze....I have a relationship with the local glass guy and am getting two light green tinted pieces cut polished and tempered for $130.00.
So i have read all the issues with the stainless window tracks and maybe i missed it but i wonder, do you have to use the stainless or did you just like it? I would rather not have the shiney on mine anyway. Anyone have a sorce or part # for just a regular black one? Thanks for any help you can give

I think you can get it either way. Mine came with it but I peeled it off. It's crimped on and and will just slide off.

ambryatim 03-19-2012 11:30 PM

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OKGMC4.....Ever find a solution for using bear claws?? Or did you go with the original door latches?

OKGMC4 03-20-2012 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ambryatim (Post 5262829)
OKGMC4.....Ever find a solution for using bear claws?? Or did you go with the original door latches?

I got a pair of new latches and strikes from LMC. They work fine. There's just so little room to do bear claws and the window track mod together. The back of the track is just about touching the back of the latch. And the doors seem so tight, it's hard to imagine it coming unlatched...but I also rebuilt the door hinges at the same time. I can bet a flopping door with worn strikes and loose latches would let it come undone.

OrrieG 03-20-2012 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by OKGMC4 (Post 5263152)
I got a pair of new latches and strikes from LMC. They work fine. There's just so little room to do bear claws and the window track mod together. The back of the track is just about touching the back of the latch. And the doors seem so tight, it's hard to imagine it coming unlatched...but I also rebuilt the door hinges at the same time. I can bet a flopping door with worn strikes and loose latches would let it come undone.

yes they will, some of my daughters best memories are of the passenger door coming open and them leaning out (belted in) to pull it shut. Also bouncing on the orignal spring seat on bumpy dirt roads. There is a reason you saw the old timers driving around with theirs arms hanging out the windows over the doors!

oldcouple 04-12-2012 11:01 PM

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Wanted to bump this back up as well as say thanks. In my 56 TF, I have one of the original brothers one piece window kits, the felt is worn out and I need to replace it. Question, could I add the front channel for the felt to sit in without doing the mod to the back channel? I do have the universal power windows as well. Again, great job BlackDiesel.

blackdiesel 04-14-2012 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by oldcouple (Post 5310354)
Wanted to bump this back up as well as say thanks. In my 56 TF, I have one of the original brothers one piece window kits, the felt is worn out and I need to replace it. Question, could I add the front channel for the felt to sit in without doing the mod to the back channel? I do have the universal power windows as well. Again, great job BlackDiesel.

yes you can, i think brothers is doing it that way now also. Wonder if they read this thread also.... lol

oldcouple 04-14-2012 07:25 PM

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Thanks, now I have to find a set of channels, cuz I sold mine to Tuckers in Las Vegas years ago. Maybe easier to just make them.

JML55 04-14-2012 08:16 PM

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I'm having issues with the door latch will not fit after i move the rear channel back, anyone with this problem? Any pictures that shows how close the latch fits with the rear chanel?

bigred1957 04-26-2012 12:59 AM

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Blackdiesel I just have to say thank you for doing the hard work ahead of time. I almost bought the Brothers one piece kit but luckily found this thread first. I believe I will go the route you guys did and get the template and make it myself. Glad you thought of moving the rear channel back because I saw how some others fit in other folks trucks that they were not happy with. Yours makes sense. I thank you and my 57 chevy thanks you! Now I need to find someone who has done a big back window install......:5150:

Speedbumpauto 04-26-2012 11:34 AM

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I have a couple of Brothers one piece glass side windows I can't use because I chopped my top. They come very close to fitting but are just a little too long and bind in the rear channel right at the top where the window has to tip forward. If one of you who is more industrious than I can use these for a good deal price, PM me. I have the original packaging for shipping and the windows are the grey tint that Brothers offers. I'm making a template and having new glass cut and tempered.

srengr 05-09-2012 10:17 AM

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Hey All,

Great thread and a lot of really good information. My truck already had one-piece door glass installed when I bought it. They do not seem to rattle, so I hope both side channels installed-- I guess time will tell.

The window channel weatherstrip and belting strip whiskers are another story-- cheap and poorly installed.

In looking for a source for replacement, I came across this site:

http://stores.restorationspecialties.com/StoreFront.bok

Looks like they have the world of window weatherstrip covered.

In the thread, someone specified these part numbers: 2 each Y528-96-WIN, 1 each M123-96-WIN and 1 each MR172X-96-WIN (enough material for both doors). Can someone confirm that these are the correct part numbers for a 1959 3100?

Thanks,

srengr

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oldcouple 05-09-2012 11:02 PM

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These guys sell the parts you need. http://www.stanpro.com/Product.aspx?ProductId=75000130

oldcouple 05-21-2012 06:26 PM

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See post, thanks http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=525778

OrrieG 06-22-2012 04:03 PM

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I am getting ready to order my glass. I did not see where anyone addressed the thickness. Is the replacement glass you guys are getting the same thickness as original, or thinner? I assume the window channel is available for different thicknesses?

Also in the video you bend the channel around the window after the back (latch side) track is welded in. Is it a correct assumption you can reach both the front and back track thru the large door opening to "mash" them into the channels? I have my doors buried and cannot get to them to do a arm length test!

Thanks Patrick

HiRMKin 06-22-2012 04:11 PM

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I also have a question about the glass. Do you cut right on the line, inside the line or the outside of the line?

OKGMC4 06-22-2012 06:12 PM

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I got 1/4" tempered glass, $40 a side here. You can reach the channels fine through the big hole but it's hard to reach down low. I used black weatherstrip adhesive to glue the strip into the track. When cutting the template, cut on the line but don't assume it's an exact fit. I highly recommend doing a test fit with masonite before getting the glass cut and take that as a template rather than the paper. To make mine fit right with no gaps I had to tweak the template a bit. I also had to move the front track forward a little farther forward at the bottom than stated to get it to roll up and down right. Also, I only used half of it, and I still have half the piece left over from lengthening the track if anyone needs it.

8baller 06-23-2012 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by OKGMC4 (Post 5449232)
I got 1/4" tempered glass, $40 a side here. You can reach the channels fine through the big hole but it's hard to reach down low. I used black weatherstrip adhesive to glue the strip into the track. When cutting the template, cut on the line but don't assume it's an exact fit. I highly recommend doing a test fit with masonite before getting the glass cut and take that as a template rather than the paper. To make mine fit right with no gaps I had to tweak the template a bit. I also had to move the front track forward a little farther forward at the bottom than stated to get it to roll up and down right. Also, I only used half of it, and I still have half the piece left over from lengthening the track if anyone needs it.

good idea using the masonite first..think im gonna try that...and dibs on the channel..getting ready to do my windows and it would help..

OrrieG 06-23-2012 12:59 AM

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Thanks for the replies, I am going to use masonite or similar to so I can keep moving forward, just needed to confirm the thickness.

oldcouple 08-01-2012 02:47 PM

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Bump to top.

oldcouple 08-06-2012 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by oldcouple (Post 5372291)
These guys sell the parts you need. http://www.stanpro.com/Product.aspx?ProductId=75000130

These guys are wholesale only, to distributors. So do a web search for the y630p and you will find a few sources. The shipping varies greatly, as do the costs.

sgtusmc 08-07-2012 05:20 PM

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I seen a truck in town this morning with the Brothers 1 piece window kit. I talked to the owner and asked how he liked it. He's had the window fall off the track a few times. He closed his door with the window down a few inches and it sounded horrible. He said he thought Brothers might have changed the design and added a new track to the kit.
I called Brother's and was informed that the kit has not been changed. He asked me if my truck was a daily driver or a show truck. I said, "whats the difference?" He said their kit is more suited for a show truck, that doesn't see a lot of window use. I'm sold now on doing it myself. Just a thanks in advance for you guy's who have done the hard work for us.

oldcouple 08-07-2012 05:27 PM

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Ordered the replacement felts for my B robbers trucks kit yesterday from these guys, http://stores.restorationspecialties...Categories.bok, they shipped today, cost is $100 plus with shipping. I made my own track for the front its easy to do.

dwcsr 08-07-2012 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sgtusmc (Post 5527453)
I called Brother's and was informed that the kit has not been changed. He asked me if my truck was a daily driver or a show truck. I said, "whats the difference?" He said their kit is more suited for a show truck, that doesn't see a lot of window use.

This is such nonsense for a vendor to say this. If that was the intent of the kit why not use nails to hold the windows up and use window felt to make it look like its functional. Why go through the bother to make a kit at all.

I just worked on a 27 Dodge Brothers Truck that used felt track and a peg at the bottom of the windows. Brothers kit isn't much better than that with it falling off the tracks when you close the door to hard.

blackdiesel 08-07-2012 09:52 PM

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I'm glad to see this thread is still alive and helping people, That's what hotroding is all about.

oldcouple 08-13-2012 12:06 PM

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Ty

OrrieG 08-13-2012 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dwcsr (Post 5527797)
I just worked on a 27 Dodge Brothers Truck that used felt track and a peg at the bottom of the windows. Brothers kit isn't much better than that with it falling off the tracks when you close the door to hard.

In the 60's you would see racers pull the door glass and operators. Replace it with 1/8" plex with a piece of a leather belt pop riveted to the bottom on the drivers side. Screw in the window sill grabbed a hole at each end of the leather for up and down positions. Other side glass was just screwed in place.

oldcouple 08-15-2012 05:22 PM

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Okay,replacing the window felts and adding the front channel guide.:


If you are adding the front channel, fit it, take it out, put in the window, because if its in you cannot rotate the window when installing it.

Next add your new front channel and leave it a little loose so it can move as your proceed.

Then add your adhesive to the outside edge of the top existing channel and install the felts with the window down.

Raise the window and thru the access hole reach in and press the felts into the existing rear channel and new front channel, if you want to add your adhesive to these do so now, its a tight fit.

I chose to use a piece of duct tape, from the back of the channel on the bottom and wrapped around the sides then into the felt channels.

Finally, after the adhesive sets up you can go back and adjust the window gaps and tighten up everything.

How do I know this? Four hours and two attempts I now have the drivers side done. :lol:

Will try the pass side tomorrow, hope it goes smoother.

OrrieG 08-15-2012 10:00 PM

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Thanks, this is going to save me some time....

oldcouple 08-15-2012 10:09 PM

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I made my front channel, used this stuff to glue in, but really think spray contact on both pieces would work just as well. I removed the chrome strip off the felts, it comes loose over time anyhow.

OrrieG 08-16-2012 01:02 AM

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Photos help too. Did you trim the screw in the top photo, it looks like it would push the channel out?

oldcouple 08-16-2012 11:20 AM

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its an optical delusion, backed it out when installing felt, then screwed it back into felt backing does not come thru. I was going to tack weld it before I did the install, glad I did not.

oldcouple 08-22-2012 01:09 PM

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Felts are in, hope I never have to do that again.

OrrieG 08-22-2012 01:16 PM

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How did the horizontal "cat whiskers" install? Did you find ones that fit with the upkick at the ends or did you have to get 4 and fabricate? If I remember right the stock ones are square at the vent end and kick up at the jamb end.

oldcouple 08-22-2012 01:22 PM

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Those are the old ones from the brothers kit, they have a button on the back to match the og holes, never stayed in place. I used the adhesive to glue them in. If you do this use lots of masking tape. I tried the rubber gloves, could not feel anything and stuck to everything. It wears off in a couple of days. You can get a new strip of it, not sure if it has the buttons. http://stores.restorationspecialties.com/Categories.bok look for ym54r

oldcouple 08-27-2012 04:58 PM

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oldcouple 08-31-2012 12:34 PM

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bump

OrrieG 08-31-2012 08:39 PM

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Thanks for the info.
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oldcouple 09-16-2012 12:15 AM

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Hogsophist 10-05-2012 12:26 PM

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more bump.

All59 10-05-2012 04:20 PM

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I use specialty power window kit it uses a frt channel and also tilt the glass.I think its the best kit if you have the money to spend.


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