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JJorgensen52 01-23-2015 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 7dee2 (Post 7014560)
Needed a fuel fill patch for the next round of welding.

Maybe I missed the plan on this, but what are you going to run for a fuel filler?

I'm actually thinking about what to do with my '50 since it's going to have an under bed tank and I'm not a huge fan of the through-floor fill necks

7dee2 01-23-2015 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by swamp rat (Post 7015516)
Looks just like a pre made one!

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by JJorgensen52 (Post 7015865)
Maybe I missed the plan on this, but what are you going to run for a fuel filler?

I'm actually thinking about what to do with my '50 since it's going to have an under bed tank and I'm not a huge fan of the through-floor fill necks

Still have useable saddle tanks from the RV and even if we don't use that set up I'm sure it will be something similar. Also toying with the idea of running another tank all the way in the back between the rails.

7dee2 01-23-2015 12:57 PM

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It’s an attack of the Green Slim!! I wanted to treat the lower large patch panel cavity upside down so the slim could seep into the pinch weld. We always spray the can dry when using this stuff so the remainder of the can went in between the roof panels and pillars. It will get a second coat but needed to do this prior to the welding of the panel.

7dee2 01-23-2015 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JJorgensen52 (Post 7015865)
Maybe I missed the plan on this, but what are you going to run for a fuel filler?

I'm actually thinking about what to do with my '50 since it's going to have an under bed tank and I'm not a huge fan of the through-floor fill necks

I didn't really answer your question earlier. The RV saddle tanks have a welded on neck and I'm not sure they will work with the flatbed. The other style tank I'm thinking about would be more like a semi with a screw on cap type fill.

swamp rat 01-23-2015 10:05 PM

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Is that the Eastwood Internal Frame coating?

I was thinking about what to spray inside right above the mirror by removing the visors and spraying in from there. .


Eastwood also sells this stuff:

http://www.eastwood.com/ew-rust-enca...html?reltype=3


I almost pulled the triger on this today for the same purpose, .

http://www.eastwood.com/eastwood-hea...-in-black.html



Not sure what is better and why, any thoughts about one VS the other?
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7dee2 01-24-2015 12:06 PM

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Yes it is and here is a link http://www.eastwood.com/internal-fra...arent_id=25961

We needed this kind of product for my 1/2 ton project and decided to use it again for this one.

Some of my reasons for using this product are I've used it before, the color you can tell where it is and where it ain't. This stuff does go on sale and if you buy enough you can get free shipping as well at times so the price was right for us (got 5 cans for under $75 delivered) . It has been around and I think has more favorable reviews?

Other than that I have no opinion except for as much time and effort that goes into fixing one of these cabs I think you would be foolish not to use something. :crazy:

mjensen 01-24-2015 12:10 PM

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Brett, you're making some great progress! Why don't you stop working on yours and come down and work on mine! :lol:

7dee2 01-26-2015 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mjensen (Post 7017112)
Brett, you're making some great progress! Why don't you stop working on yours and come down and work on mine! :lol:

What's next I'll be right over! ;)

7dee2 01-26-2015 02:08 PM

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We went from nipples to scar tissue! :lol:

swamp rat 01-26-2015 09:24 PM

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you using an arch welder?? :)

nlped 01-26-2015 09:29 PM

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I was wondering if it was a battery charger and some coat hangers. :D :lol:

7dee2 01-27-2015 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by swamp rat (Post 7020870)
you using an arch welder?? :)

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Originally Posted by nlped (Post 7020880)
I was wondering if it was a battery charger and some coat hangers. :D :lol:

Man it's a tough crowd out there and yes we know it ain't pretty, my boy (who's better than me) and I don't claim to welders! ;) In his defense he was welding over his head and it is solid! :lol:

I'll give you one guess who got to grind all that off! :waah:

7dee2 01-27-2015 12:52 PM

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More panel prep the lower is now ready to go. We needed to fill some holes in the upper outer patch.

swamp rat 01-27-2015 08:23 PM

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You guys are definantly kicking butt on the thing!

7dee2 01-27-2015 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by nlped (Post 7020880)
I was wondering if it was a battery charger and some coat hangers. :D :lol:

Is this even possible? :haha: I told a buddy today about you and the swamp rat beating us up for the awful weld job and we all had a good laugh. :lol:

I'm guessing it was just a bad weld day and debated on posting it (Good, Bad & Ugly you know). So after we checked to see if their was any wire left in the machine we moved on as you will soon see.

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Originally Posted by swamp rat (Post 7022343)
You guys are definantly kicking butt on the thing!

Thanks man we are ahead of the thread a little. Gonna keep working the cab but looking into the next phase some.

RedRoad 01-27-2015 11:15 PM

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Ive seen guys put 3 or 4 car batteries in series and weld broken frames on the trail in a pinch.

swamp rat 01-28-2015 12:02 AM

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Ok, i hope you didn't take my post badly as i didn't mean to come off in a bad manner, i know when it comes to body i can't weld for crap. i probably wouldn't have posted that at all but your comments about nipples and scar tissue earlyer made me feel you wouldn't get upset about it. :)

EDIT, Overhead welding isn't easy, i suck at it.

7dee2 01-28-2015 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RedRoad (Post 7022712)
Ive seen guys put 3 or 4 car batteries in series and weld broken frames on the trail in a pinch.

No kidding that's resourceful! I wouldn't have thought there was enough current, good to know.

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Originally Posted by swamp rat (Post 7022794)
Ok, i hope you didn't take my post badly as i didn't mean to come off in a bad manner, i know when it comes to body i can't weld for crap. i probably wouldn't have posted that at all but your comments about nipples and scar tissue earlyer made me feel you wouldn't get upset about it. :)

EDIT, Overhead welding isn't easy, i suck at it.

No worries and yes I was pocking fun at us it looked like a tumor was forming! :lol:

You know he did have to listen to me whine when I saw it and we had a little talk about trying to keep weld puddle down. :thud:

7dee2 01-28-2015 02:05 PM

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A shot of weld thru and we’re ready to screw them into place for the final time.

7dee2 01-29-2015 01:31 PM

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Goodbye pass thru, upper is ready to weld.

7dee2 01-29-2015 01:42 PM

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I just hope I can get my grips back from there. If not then I’ll cut’em off and fish the pieces out.

mjensen 01-29-2015 11:18 PM

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Looking good Brett! I'm hoping to get something going this weekend...

Trekster 01-29-2015 11:46 PM

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Great work! I'll be watching this build.

swamp rat 01-29-2015 11:49 PM

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Inspiring work, makes me think i may be able to do it myself if i ever get to that point with my current progress..

7dee2 01-30-2015 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mjensen (Post 7025803)
Looking good Brett! I'm hoping to get something going this weekend...

Thanks Mike you going to make some more linkage progress? I updated your thread with an idea.

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Originally Posted by Trekster (Post 7025863)
Great work! I'll be watching this build.

Thanks Trekster.

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Originally Posted by swamp rat (Post 7025868)
Inspiring work, makes me think i may be able to do it myself if i ever get to that point with my current progress..

I'm sure you can especially if the opening doesn't go too far into the roof area.

7dee2 01-30-2015 01:07 PM

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1st round weld, weld, weld.

swamp rat 01-31-2015 02:27 AM

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Knocking it out!

7dee2 02-02-2015 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by swamp rat (Post 7027466)
Knocking it out!

Thanks man.

7dee2 02-02-2015 11:57 AM

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And weld some more. We did manage to get the grips backs without cutting them. A telescoping magnet was the ticket!

7dee2 02-03-2015 11:02 AM

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Now that we are getting down to starting the frame shortening process I’m having second thoughts about all the frame splices and frame repair on my trailer towing 4x4/work type truck. I now know its doable with the K3500 frame and would probably be fine but I’m debating if we should or if just using a C30 frame is the better option? The K3500 splice job is going to have to be a farm out for us (started the quote process) as we just don’t want to be plagued with frame problems after the K30 is built.

7dee2 02-04-2015 11:50 AM

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No comments on the frame statement above? Just thinking out loud and starting to finalize plans for the next phase.

So back to the cab after 2 rounds of weld, grind, weld & grind this is how the inner upper patch is looking (tumor removed). ;)

JJorgensen52 02-04-2015 12:51 PM

Re: 72 K30 Build
 
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Originally Posted by 7dee2 (Post 7032131)
Now that we are getting down to starting the frame shortening process I’m having second thoughts about all the frame splices and frame repair on my trailer towing 4x4/work type truck. I now know its doable with the K3500 frame and would probably be fine but I’m debating if we should or if just using a C30 frame is the better option? The K3500 splice job is going to have to be a farm out for us (started the quote process) as we just don’t want to be plagued with frame problems after the K30 is built.

Cutting down the K3500 frame should not be terrible, and can be plenty strong (in fact stronger than factory) if done with correct fish plates and a good welder.

That said, when you start getting into multiple cuts and splices, you increase the probability of something going amiss. With the C30 frame, a lot of the hangars and so forth line up with factory holes, which allows you to keep things aligned pretty well.

Either way, what's best is what you're comfortable with. On my last project (as you know) I did the original frame with modified hangars and such. On my current one, I'm building a hybrid frame from a different generation truck and a metric G-body. So I'm not really biased :lol:

Dieselwrencher 02-04-2015 05:57 PM

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I agree with what Jjorgensen52 said. On my 76 I did a step cut to help make it stronger. I used to work in a heavy truck frame shop and we used to straight cut them up to a certain length. All the ones we did got sleeved with minimum of 1/4" cold rolled. On super long rigs, we angle cut them. None of them ever got fish plates either. They never had any come back and they had been doing truck stretching/shortening and frame altering since 1979. We had a dump truck come in that they built in the mid 90's that had been rolled. The frame was straight where they stretched it and didn't start to be roled and twisted until after the sleeve ended. We saw all kinds of mangled trucks, and fixed 98% of them.

7dee2 02-05-2015 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JJorgensen52 (Post 7033689)
Cutting down the K3500 frame should not be terrible, and can be plenty strong (in fact stronger than factory) if done with correct fish plates and a good welder.

That said, when you start getting into multiple cuts and splices, you increase the probability of something going amiss. With the C30 frame, a lot of the hangars and so forth line up with factory holes, which allows you to keep things aligned pretty well.

Either way, what's best is what you're comfortable with. On my last project (as you know) I did the original frame with modified hangars and such. On my current one, I'm building a hybrid frame from a different generation truck and a metric G-body. So I'm not really biased :lol:

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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 7034118)
I agree with what Jjorgensen52 said. On my 76 I did a step cut to help make it stronger. I used to work in a heavy truck frame shop and we used to straight cut them up to a certain length. All the ones we did got sleeved with minimum of 1/4" cold rolled. On super long rigs, we angle cut them. None of them ever got fish plates either. They never had any come back and they had been doing truck stretching/shortening and frame altering since 1979. We had a dump truck come in that they built in the mid 90's that had been rolled. The frame was straight where they stretched it and didn't start to be roled and twisted until after the sleeve ended. We saw all kinds of mangled trucks, and fixed 98% of them.

I agree 100% so after a lot of consideration and a pretty big frame fab quote (6 splices w/fish plate and the right rail repair, 2 of the splices were to add 72 frame horns) from one of the better welders in my area I have decided to finish scrapping the K3500 frame. :thud:

We are going to try and acquire another C30 133" frame (new plan A?) and if that doesn't fly then we'll go with standby plan B (use my blue C30) for the frame. This new direction does simplify some things and complicate others but its all good cuz there is a plan right???

7dee2 02-05-2015 12:41 PM

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More cab progress, the large back patch is looking fairly flat! Saweet!

Dieselwrencher 02-05-2015 05:40 PM

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It's coming along nicely!

swamp rat 02-05-2015 08:24 PM

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Nice!

7dee2 02-06-2015 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 7035555)
It's coming along nicely!

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Originally Posted by swamp rat (Post 7035734)
Nice!

Thanks you guys! We’re thinking it should hold a window OK, here’s how the upper is looking just needs a little more luv on the lip and filler will catch the rest. ;)

Dieselwrencher 02-06-2015 09:45 PM

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Looks like it should hold the window gasket just fine.

7dee2 02-09-2015 11:26 AM

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This is how the entire back panel looks.


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