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KyleSeal 12-18-2022 08:15 PM

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POR15 laid down. I used semi-gloss, this photo is right after I did it, still wet.
Going to wait a day or so and lay down the Kilmat I have!

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KyleSeal 12-24-2022 07:52 PM

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Sound deadened the roof. This is 80mil Kiltmat, and it came out pretty good. Had to use a heat gun as its about 60 in my garage, a cold 60.

* yes, I know a little of sound deadening pad goes a long way, but I had this material, and keep in mind the roof skin will be permanently fixed in place, so there would be no going back to add. To go this far and fall short would make me not so happy! I do really like the way it came out. :chevy:

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KyleSeal 12-24-2022 08:00 PM

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Some inner cab work - I am a huge fan of the Eastwood rust encapsulator and internal frame coating. This internal frame stuff does NOT come off unless sanded off, not even if you dunk it in acetone (tried to get off a spilled area, no luck). I used the internal frame coating for the rear inner wall of the cab, as it was pretty surface rusty. Used some lights and air techniques to evenly distribute for full coverage and it came out well. It advertises it will "creep" into hard to rear places and I gotta say, it sure does. Looking at some of the pinch weld seams for the door seal, I can see it worked its way between the panels which is great. It is a mess though, so be ready to clean up any areas you dont want it and mask well before applying.

I then did the inside of the firewall, wire wheel'd and 220'd everything, and hit with the rust encapsulator. I then went after it with some SEM 1k seam sealer, which is my favorite, works very well. I typically give it a few hours, and hit it with some of the rust encapsulator again to seal up the seam sealer, as it will attract and grab onto dirts and such even after its dried.

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SRU1436 12-26-2022 12:49 PM

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Looks great! Good job!

KyleSeal 12-29-2022 04:44 PM

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Short one here. POR15'd the floor and then did the POR15 top coat, waiting a few days to let it dry!

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KyleSeal 12-29-2022 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SRU1436 (Post 9160013)
Looks great! Good job!

thank you!

KyleSeal 01-04-2023 10:07 AM

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The temps have been much better lately... in the 60s! So Ive been knocking out some odds and ends for paint match stuff. These kick panels came out well.

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KyleSeal 01-09-2023 12:23 PM

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Some speaker bracket pix. Biding my time for warmer weather!!

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KyleSeal 01-10-2023 08:27 PM

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Dash prep begins... washed the dash off with some gray scotchbrite pads and cleaned all the contact points to the cab, sealed with some rust encapsulator. Now to decide if I want to clear coat the inside of the dash or put something else inside it. I will be coating the outside with a semi gloss clear.

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cornerstone 01-11-2023 11:14 AM

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Great work man. :metal:

KyleSeal 01-13-2023 02:25 PM

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Just got word my bench seat is all complete. Man am I stoked!! It came out great. The vinyl is matched to the factory color keyed sunvisor. And the inserts are a NOS from long ago!! Really helps me get motivated to push harder.

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zicc1835 01-16-2023 12:32 AM

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lots & lots of nice work.........a whole lot

68bowtie 01-16-2023 12:53 AM

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What a dramatic before and after. Nice work!

KyleSeal 01-16-2023 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by cornerstone (Post 9165498)
Great work man. :metal:

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Originally Posted by zicc1835 (Post 9167250)
lots & lots of nice work.........a whole lot

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Originally Posted by 68bowtie (Post 9167252)
What a dramatic before and after. Nice work!

Thank you all! Ive been on this board for a while, and creeped without a profile for years before that. Always watched build threads and thought "man. I'd love to have my own build thread worth sharing." So to have all the compliments I've had from yall and other members really means a ton!! :chevy:

KyleSeal 01-16-2023 09:15 AM

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Rear speaker brackets are fitted, was having some issues figuring out how to fasten them into place at the top with my hidden bracket, as I cant fit two hands in there when installing them... then I thought, why not use the j-nuts from the wheel wells? They work great. I may place a small spot weld to keep them from rolling/moving when placing everything. Installed the actual speakers, Infinity Kappa 6.5s, now I need to get a grille to clean them up some. We will see!

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KyleSeal 01-16-2023 09:18 AM

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You can never have enough clamps. Getting this dash back in place wont be too difficult, but you can definitely see I'm in need of some more clamps, and here I was thinking I had enough :crazy:

Also admiring the paint match on the dash to kick panel, not exact but close enough for government work! :lol:

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regan wilson 01-16-2023 07:40 PM

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Clamps and lots of them. That's good to know since I've never had one out. I'm sure that I will on my C-50. Good work Kyle.

chewychevy67 01-16-2023 07:45 PM

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Your doing a nice job making sure you get as much creep rust as you can. It would be a disappointment if you got the whole cab done and 3 years later rust was appearing in spots. Going backwards is not fun. Keep up the good work

KyleSeal 01-19-2023 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by regan wilson (Post 9167522)
Clamps and lots of them. That's good to know since I've never had one out. I'm sure that I will on my C-50. Good work Kyle.

Ive never had one out either, this is my first one, but going well if I do say so myself. I was expecting a lot of work but its been rather straight forward. I had a small spot of rust breakthrough inside the driver side a-pillar where it met the dash, and had to cut the dash for the Vintage Air, so it made sense.

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Your doing a nice job making sure you get as much creep rust as you can. It would be a disappointment if you got the whole cab done and 3 years later rust was appearing in spots. Going backwards is not fun. Keep up the good work

Like they say "while Im here..." :lol: but thats really what I keep coming back to, is thinking of going this far and not going a touch further and then having rust creep into the seams would be an incredible bummer. I appreciate it!

KyleSeal 01-19-2023 09:47 AM

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Although Im a ways away from having the seat in its final spot, I just had to toss it in the truck and see how it felt, and man oh man Im happy with it. I think this seat will wear well and will really make this interior a talking point. I also want to thank n2billet for putting this design on his Tiffany. It was the inspiration for the layout of this bench.

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KyleSeal 01-19-2023 09:48 AM

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More pix.... because.... why not!

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KyleSeal 01-25-2023 10:03 AM

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Welded dash back in, and installed the Altman Easy Latches. Kind of looking like a truck now!

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KyleSeal 01-30-2023 10:43 AM

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Moving towards getting the roof installed, while I waited on the rain to stop so I could sandblast the new skin, I cleaned and painted the windshield pinchweld frame, after I ground down the dash welds. Once I had the roof blasted I etch primered and top coated with some black paint.

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KyleSeal 01-30-2023 10:48 AM

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Roof will be installed in the next week or so. I will be using the SEM panel bond glue to hold the rear seam down, I have spot weld punches every 6 inches or so, a bit closer in the front to keep it from lifting. I see a lot of people mixing these two practices together so I think this will hold well. My first time using it, so we will see.

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hewittca 02-01-2023 10:29 PM

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Excellent work and build thread! You've made quite a lot of progress in the last year.

KyleSeal 02-02-2023 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by hewittca (Post 9174097)
Excellent work and build thread! You've made quite a lot of progress in the last year.

Thank you! Funny you say that, it actually has been 1 year since I bought it (Jan 30th 2022). The only thing holding me up from moving forward is the weather. My garage is insulated but when its 35 outside it makes it 55 inside, and thats too cold for me to paint. So waiting for better weather to help me along!

Stickman 02-03-2023 04:01 PM

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Did you drill and weld/fill all those tack welds around the perimeter of the firewall or fill and block the rest? Beautiful work.

KyleSeal 02-06-2023 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Stickman (Post 9174665)
Did you drill and weld/fill all those tack welds around the perimeter of the firewall or fill and block the rest? Beautiful work.

I actually have not used any filler on the truck yet, just weld solid and grind flat with 36 grit discs/belts and then hit with 80 to clean the appearance. Areas welded that aren't exposed to everyone when assembled (cowl area and such) I will cover the welded area with seam sealer. Thanks!

KyleSeal 02-06-2023 09:30 AM

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Hurry up and wait is the game here in my garage! Waiting on temps this week to reach 60, so I can glue my roof. Meanwhile, I decided to get a 8 inch booster and flush mount it, like how Delmo did on Nacho. I needed to ditch the bolt on the steering column bracket, so I decided to section in a new side to it to relocate the bolt hole. Im sure one bolt would have been fine, but I felt better with two. Recessed the firewall brace with some 1/8 plate, welded it all and repainted to match. No one will ever see it, but I will always know if I hack something :lol:

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KyleSeal 02-06-2023 09:31 AM

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Pix for others to use as reference if needed :chevy:

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KyleSeal 02-09-2023 10:13 PM

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And the roof is ON! Fully glued and welded. I did this single handedly, what I did was put 2x4s under the roof skin in place, so I could put down the glue on each surface, and drop into place. It worked out just how I hoped. Now to let it sit for a day or so and cure!

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chewychevy67 02-09-2023 10:33 PM

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Awesome. Now you know rust won't be popping its head thru the windshield area in 20 months!

SRU1436 02-09-2023 11:03 PM

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Very impressive, great job!

hewittca 02-10-2023 07:57 AM

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Nice work! This is going to be one hell of a clean truck when you're done and something you can be proud of.

I'm going back to your brake system mod. I really like the flush mount idea. Is that one of those power brake kits with the weird mounting bracket and pivot that sets the booster way off the firewall? If so, I'm wondering if you plan to incorporate the pivot somehow or if you are worried about excessive pedal travel if you do not include it. I have that booster/master combo with the bracket/pivot and it works well as designed, it just looks terrible sticking so far off the firewall. I'd like to maybe do this mod as well.

clay68c10 02-10-2023 09:13 AM

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Nice work!
You can't have too many clamps.

KyleSeal 02-10-2023 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by chewychevy67 (Post 9177026)
Awesome. Now you know rust won't be popping its head thru the windshield area in 20 months!

Thats right! This roof stuff has been a headache, but in the end I'd say its worth it. Learned a lot, and can say at the least it was effective.
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Originally Posted by SRU1436 (Post 9177043)
Very impressive, great job!

Thank you! :metal:
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Originally Posted by hewittca (Post 9177134)
Nice work! This is going to be one hell of a clean truck when you're done and something you can be proud of.

I'm going back to your brake system mod. I really like the flush mount idea. Is that one of those power brake kits with the weird mounting bracket and pivot that sets the booster way off the firewall? If so, I'm wondering if you plan to incorporate the pivot somehow or if you are worried about excessive pedal travel if you do not include it. I have that booster/master combo with the bracket/pivot and it works well as designed, it just looks terrible sticking so far off the firewall. I'd like to maybe do this mod as well.

I got this setup off eBay, the 8inch dual diaphragm with a 1 1/8 disc/drum master, and it did come with the big bracket and bellcrank. I plan to do a direct mount of the pedal push rod, I am currently studying the design of the master/booster/push rod combo to understand what I need to do moving forward. What I understand is the factory manual brakes want 4:1 pedal ratio, and power brakes want 6:1, to my understanding I should be able to move the mounting point down 1" and accomplish something close to this, as long as it doesnt create a weird angle. I may end up modifying the pedal itself if thats the case.

KyleSeal 02-12-2023 05:15 PM

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and wrapping up my brake pedal pushrod situation. I decided to put the bellcrank under the dash by chopping up the bracket and welding it in place, this was all done to achieve a 4:1 pedal ratio. I cut a relief in the pedal assembly and bent some 1/8" plate to a smooth radius to reinforce where I removed, and welded in a 'leg' to support the bell crank pivot point. Brake spring clears after cutting the pivot shaft about 1/4", and I moved the pedal to bell crank push rod hole up .5" to make the ratio proper.

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KyleSeal 02-12-2023 05:18 PM

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This is the diagram I used:
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source (with addt'l info):
https://shop.wilwood.com/blogs/news/...o%20of%209%3A1.

hewittca 02-13-2023 08:06 AM

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That's some really fine engineering to get that mechanism to fit in such a compact and concealed location! I'm wondering how your measurements work out for this arrangement, because with flipping the pedal pushrod an master pushrod on the pivot shaft you are actually increasing the pedal ratio and thus increasing pedal travel to achieve the desired master cylinder travel. For example, in the Wilwood schematic if you flip the 2.67" and 4.00" your pedal ratio goes to about 9:1. Maybe I'm just not understanding the schematic/phots correctly. Have you had a chance to get a feel of the pedal yet?

KyleSeal 02-13-2023 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by hewittca (Post 9178025)
That's some really fine engineering to get that mechanism to fit in such a compact and concealed location! I'm wondering how your measurements work out for this arrangement, because with flipping the pedal pushrod an master pushrod on the pivot shaft you are actually increasing the pedal ratio and thus increasing pedal travel to achieve the desired master cylinder travel. For example, in the Wilwood schematic if you flip the 2.67" and 4.00" your pedal ratio goes to about 9:1. Maybe I'm just not understanding the schematic/phots correctly. Have you had a chance to get a feel of the pedal yet?

Good catch! I had not considered that, but to my calculations, if that is the case, I can drop the pushrod position on the original pedal accordingly to drop the ratio. The numbers on the diagram are not mine, just a given example from Wilwood. But given the case, if the bellcrank ratio flipped is 0.66:1, and I drop the main pedal ratio to a 2.8:1 then I will achieve about 4.2:1. Which will still help with my operating angles, and give me a proper pedal. The truck isnt back together yet, so I wont know about pedal feel until Ive got it reassembled.

EDIT: I added a diagram of my unit, with my setup + measurements and how I calculated mine with my flipped assembly.


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