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Rokcrln 06-03-2008 02:18 AM

Re: project INCREDIBLE HULK 6.2L with 6L80E
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 68 short step (Post 2729018)
kevin,
dunno who you talked to at what company.... but how it works is the ECM sences the throttle position, and load. if its within the limits it'll shut off 4 cyl. indeffently to conserve fuel....
how it does this is through oil pressure to 'special' two piece lifters....when in the 4cyl, mode the outer part of the lifter moves with the cam, but the inner part does not move.. I E the pushrod nor valves move either...when the ECM sences a change in the load (going up a hill), or more gas (pedal position chages outside the limits) it switches back to 8cyl. mode... it does this in meer milliseconds and cant not be detected, other then the exhaust tone....as a matter of fact those DOD cylinders receive less ware do to this function....

Scoti,
welcome to the club.....you know we'll require a thread with pics:)

I talked with Howell feul injection as well as street and performance and both said it is not worth doing. So for my 05 5.3L who would you recomend getting a harness from so this function stays active? I am trying to get the best MPG I can out of this truck. It has 3.27RP with the 4L60E but the whole cylinder dropping has me at a loss at this point. Any imput would be great.

Also I missed it last time but nice job on slicing the rocker to fit the door/fender profile. Most poeple don't take the time to do this and it really pays off in the end.

Kevin
LFD Inc.

gringoloco 06-03-2008 12:28 PM

Re: project INCREDIBLE HULK 6.2L with 6L80E
 
Go with the stock harness/PCM. You are more than capable of re-routing some wires. It looks worse than it is...

68 short step 06-03-2008 01:47 PM

Re: project INCREDIBLE HULK 6.2L with 6L80E
 
yea, that would be my first choice (do it myself) but john at speartech is also another great option, he knows his stuff......
S&P is hit and miss on knowledge, enough so i dont base decisons on what they say...

tk-mpl 06-03-2008 11:21 PM

Re: project INCREDIBLE HULK 6.2L with 6L80E
 
Doing the harness is not that bad. Very scary looking and confusing at times with the mess of wires everywhere. Just do it one connector at a time and label everything... In the middle of doing mine and I quite enjoying it.... I do have one question for ya Don. Do you think it will affect the knock sensor reading if i route them inside the harness with the starter solenoid wire. They are a twisted pair of wires so I don't think induction should be a problem.
Thanx
Trevor

68 short step 06-03-2008 11:34 PM

Re: project INCREDIBLE HULK 6.2L with 6L80E
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tk-mpl (Post 2750397)
Doing the harness is not that bad. Very scary looking and confusing at times with the mess of wires everywhere. Just do it one connector at a time and label everything... In the middle of doing mine and I quite enjoying it.... I do have one question for ya Don. Do you think it will affect the knock sensor reading if i route them inside the harness with the starter solenoid wire. They are a twisted pair of wires so I don't think induction should be a problem.
Thanx
Trevor

i dont think you'll have any interferance at all, you should be fine IMO

Rokcrln 06-04-2008 02:51 AM

Re: project INCREDIBLE HULK 6.2L with 6L80E
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 68 short step (Post 2749496)
yea, that would be my first choice (do it myself) but john at speartech is also another great option, he knows his stuff......
S&P is hit and miss on knowledge, enough so i dont base decisons on what they say...

I will contack John and get his imput. I would like to keep the DOD feature even if it only give a few % in gain on the MPG. I called S&P today to ask about CC on a drive by wire system and was pleased to find out it is all in their and all they would need to do is add a few wires for me to hook to my colunm switch. That will make for a very cloean set up. I assume John can do the same. Thanks for the info and I am heading over to read the link you sent.

Kevin
LFD Inc.

SCOTI 06-04-2008 10:25 AM

Re: project INCREDIBLE HULK 6.2L with 6L80E
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rokcrln (Post 2750603)
I will contack John and get his imput. I would like to keep the DOD feature even if it only give a few % in gain on the MPG. I called S&P today to ask about CC on a drive by wire system and was pleased to find out it is all in their and all they would need to do is add a few wires for me to hook to my colunm switch. That will make for a very cloean set up. I assume John can do the same. Thanks for the info and I am heading over to read the link you sent.

Kevin
LFD Inc.

I tried finding the link someone posted about the 'clean' apprearing turn signal stalk w/the CC switch. Do you happen to know that source?

killer71 06-04-2008 10:52 AM

Re: project INCREDIBLE HULK 6.2L with 6L80E
 
i believe it was in my build up awhile back.

gringoloco 06-04-2008 11:01 AM

Re: project INCREDIBLE HULK 6.2L with 6L80E
 
It's a Dakota Digital item...

Hart_Rod 06-04-2008 12:16 PM

Re: project INCREDIBLE HULK 6.2L with 6L80E
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SCOTI (Post 2750892)
I tried finding the link someone posted about the 'clean' apprearing turn signal stalk w/the CC switch. Do you happen to know that source?

http://www.dakotadigital.com/index.c...prod/prd50.htm

SCOTI 06-04-2008 12:17 PM

Re: project INCREDIBLE HULK 6.2L with 6L80E
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by killer71 (Post 2750921)
i believe it was in my build up awhile back.

I knew it was in one of these threads but couldn't remember which one. I just re-read through Don's SS build-up as well as LowBuks & didn't see it. The Killer build-up was next on my list.....

Rokcrln 06-04-2008 01:13 PM

Re: project INCREDIBLE HULK 6.2L with 6L80E
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SCOTI (Post 2751017)
I knew it was in one of these threads but couldn't remember which one. I just re-read through Don's SS build-up as well as LowBuks & didn't see it. The Killer build-up was next on my list.....

That is the same one I have in Low Buck but it came with my CC kit that I ordered from a supplier that the manufacture recommended. I think the kit is a Rostra design or something like that. It works great now that I have all the dip switches adjusted right. I think summit or Jegs also sells the kits.

Kevin
LFD Inc.

tk-mpl 06-04-2008 02:39 PM

Re: project INCREDIBLE HULK 6.2L with 6L80E
 
I was meaning to look into that CC switch. To make that functional all a guy has to do is add the CC input from that switch to the PCM, right?? I was shocked on how cheap it is!!

68 short step 06-04-2008 04:06 PM

Re: project INCREDIBLE HULK 6.2L with 6L80E
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tk-mpl (Post 2751161)
I was meaning to look into that CC switch. To make that functional all a guy has to do is add the CC input from that switch to the PCM, right?? I was shocked on how cheap it is!!

yes, the pcm controls the CC... just connect the on/off switch, resume/ accelerate, set....and you're done..;)

tk-mpl 06-04-2008 06:54 PM

Re: project INCREDIBLE HULK 6.2L with 6L80E
 
Cool, I gotta have one...
Thanx
Trevor.

Coda O'Dell 06-04-2008 09:35 PM

Re: project INCREDIBLE HULK 6.2L with 6L80E
 
Love the truck. Where in tulsa are you. I live in Sapulpa

68 short step 06-04-2008 09:59 PM

Re: project INCREDIBLE HULK 6.2L with 6L80E
 
im in BA......

C-BOMB 06-07-2008 04:14 PM

Re: project INCREDIBLE HULK 6.2L with 6L80E
 
are you going to use the fly by wire? we just wired up a 07 5.3 for a rail buggy and got the harness for the pedal from speartech. worked out perfect

68 short step 06-07-2008 04:40 PM

Re: project INCREDIBLE HULK 6.2L with 6L80E
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by C-BOMB (Post 2755453)
are you going to use the fly by wire? we just wired up a 07 5.3 for a rail buggy and got the harness for the pedal from speartech. worked out perfect

yelp, keepin the DBW

tk-mpl 06-08-2008 06:13 PM

Re: project INCREDIBLE HULK 6.2L with 6L80E
 
Hey 68SS, What intake kit are you using with these gen4 engines and are you using the original MAF sensor to the engine???
Thanx.
Trevor

68 short step 06-08-2008 08:44 PM

Re: project INCREDIBLE HULK 6.2L with 6L80E
 
i like to use the intake and air filter for a 00-02 denali/tahoe (aftermarket one)... and yes i keep the stock MAF and front O2s.... im not a huge speed density fan, especially for these GEN 3/4 engines

tk-mpl 06-08-2008 09:50 PM

Re: project INCREDIBLE HULK 6.2L with 6L80E
 
Do you have a pic of the 6.2L intake setup yet?? Is there any mods to make the intakes fit?
Thanx.

Ackattack 06-09-2008 12:35 AM

Re: project INCREDIBLE HULK 6.2L with 6L80E
 
how does it work with the ride height sensors? Does it try to adjust for body roll while going around a corner?

Found where to get my cruise control switch/turn signal!

68 short step 06-12-2008 08:43 PM

Re: project INCREDIBLE HULK 6.2L with 6L80E
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tk-mpl (Post 2757085)
Do you have a pic of the 6.2L intake setup yet?? Is there any mods to make the intakes fit?
Thanx.

none yet, no mods other then makeing a mounting bracket to support the weight of the tube/air filter....
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ackattack (Post 2757400)
how does it work with the ride height sensors? Does it try to adjust for body roll while going around a corner?

yes, it sences the height of the suspension at any given time or load and adjusts it to your pre-sets....



some progress,
got the tranny lines mocked-up, on the 6l80e they come out of the driver side (unlike the 4l60e)...they are routed tightly under the tranny and then terminate into a AN tube adaptor....from there its just a few 90* and streight fittings, with bradided -6 line........


also doing the wiring, GM keeps switching PCM pins on me, so for all doing a swap 05-06 E38 computers are adiffrent from 07-08 38 computers... (computers are the same, just the pins that connect the wires to the PCM are diffrent) so i got some 07 E38 PCM pins comming...
here is the orginized mess :lol:

and a sneek peak at this :cool:

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...k/100_0370.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...k/100_0371.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...k/100_0372.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...k/100_0395.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...k/100_0396.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...k/100_0397.jpg

GRIMSS 06-12-2008 08:56 PM

Re: project INCREDIBLE HULK 6.2L with 6L80E
 
That dash out of a vett?

68 short step 06-12-2008 09:00 PM

Re: project INCREDIBLE HULK 6.2L with 6L80E
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GRIMSS (Post 2763111)
That dash out of a vett?

you are wise, grasshopper........

GRIMSS 06-12-2008 09:03 PM

Re: project INCREDIBLE HULK 6.2L with 6L80E
 
Sweeet!!!!

GRIMSS 06-12-2008 09:04 PM

Re: project INCREDIBLE HULK 6.2L with 6L80E
 
anything mocked up yet? Pics

my67chevytruck 06-13-2008 09:13 AM

Re: project INCREDIBLE HULK 6.2L with 6L80E
 
Looking good don.. Keep at it...

pcorriveau951 06-13-2008 07:51 PM

Re: project INCREDIBLE HULK 6.2L with 6L80E
 
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68 short step what are the wire in this picture covered in? they look clean wrapped in this braiding, are the rest of the wires in your truck going to be covered in the material? Keep up the great work.

tk-mpl 06-13-2008 11:30 PM

Re: project INCREDIBLE HULK 6.2L with 6L80E
 
Are you using the 2000 f-body pacesetter headers on this one too. Where do you get them. I also tried a previously posted link for the intake that you used aswell and it didn't work so if you can share that aswell that would be great.

Looking good..
Watching and learning...

turbohacker 06-14-2008 01:02 AM

Re: project INCREDIBLE HULK 6.2L with 6L80E
 
Is that one of those new trick composite plastic drive shafts?! :lol:

Great build, im really exicted to see what you do with that vette dash...

68 short step 06-14-2008 11:04 AM

Re: project INCREDIBLE HULK 6.2L with 6L80E
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pcorriveau951 (Post 2764405)
68 short step what are the wire in this picture covered in? they look clean wrapped in this braiding, are the rest of the wires in your truck going to be covered in the material? Keep up the great work.

that is how it came from airide, but it is basically the same thing as the painless "powerbraid" wire sleeve
PN 70901 1/4" dia. x 20ft
70902 1/2"dia. x 10ft
70903 3/4" dia. x 6ft
70904 s" dia. x 4ft


Quote:

Originally Posted by tk-mpl (Post 2764657)
Are you using the 2000 f-body pacesetter headers on this one too. Where do you get them. I also tried a previously posted link for the intake that you used aswell and it didn't work so if you can share that aswell that would be great.

Looking good..
Watching and learning...

yes they are for 00-02 camaro firebird (race style, with no emission stuff)
im lookn for the link on the intake, i got it from ebay, for the 00 yukon


Quote:

Originally Posted by turbohacker (Post 2764797)
Is that one of those new trick composite plastic drive shafts?! :lol:

Great build, im really exicted to see what you do with that vette dash...

yes its good up to 1HP :lol:

68 short step 06-16-2008 11:15 PM

Re: project INCREDIBLE HULK 6.2L with 6L80E
 
with this tranny being so much bigger, and the mount being 2.5" higher up then the 4l60e.... i was afraid it would interfer with the trans tunnel, so after a few measurements, i desided it would interfer....so i put the cab back on the frame (with the help of the wife) to see where and how bad it was interfering......after we got it on i had her look to see where it was touching and i marked it from inside.....so i cut the hump out, and set the cab completly down.....and with the engine moved back as it is on this truck, it sits close to the firewall, but fits the contores of the firewall like a glove......it looks awsome sitting up on the firewall, they couldn't of done a better design back in 71 to make a new engine fit so good.....
here are some pics
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...k/100_0408.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...k/100_0409.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...k/100_0410.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...k/100_0412.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...k/100_0413.jpg
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71Hulk 06-17-2008 10:45 PM

Re: project INCREDIBLE HULK 6.2L with 6L80E
 
Tell mo hulk says 2 smile...you need to taker to geter nails done!
so what r the plans for that big hole in the floor board?

68 short step 06-18-2008 10:58 AM

Re: project INCREDIBLE HULK 6.2L with 6L80E
 
make a new tunnel... what you didnt see the flower on the toe nails???:lol:

SCOTI 06-18-2008 11:58 AM

Re: project INCREDIBLE HULK 6.2L with 6L80E
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 68 short step (Post 2770888)
....what you didnt see the flower on the toe nails???:lol:

She gets my vote for 'hottest chick in this thread'. :lol:

Hart_Rod 06-18-2008 12:13 PM

Re: project INCREDIBLE HULK 6.2L with 6L80E
 
Why didn't you use the "LH8" oil pan? I think you mentioned it before. Do you have the dimensions? I was looking at this one on ebay, but not sure if it will work.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...238436426&rd=1

R/

gringoloco 06-18-2008 12:19 PM

Re: project INCREDIBLE HULK 6.2L with 6L80E
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 68 short step (Post 2770888)
make a new tunnel...

Will a stock "high hump" fit?

68 short step 06-18-2008 01:34 PM

Re: project INCREDIBLE HULK 6.2L with 6L80E
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hart_Rod (Post 2770954)
Why didn't you use the "LH8" oil pan? I think you mentioned it before. Do you have the dimensions? I was looking at this one on ebay, but not sure if it will work.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...238436426&rd=1

R/

yes the LH8 pan will clear, but the camaro pan is still shallower......and we're gonna be low, so ground clearance is a concern.....
here are the demensions
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8.../lh8oilpan.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by gringoloco (Post 2770959)
Will a stock "high hump" fit?

most defently.....the interferance was mainly on the back part (tailshaft houseing) but instead of modding that one spot and looking like poop, i desided to raise the entire thing...


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