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RockinKees 01-08-2015 01:34 PM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Thanks Bubba1955, that notch is clear to me, I know that I have to do those. I will weld the IFS in.

But after measuring the framerails and the width of the front end sheetmetal, I think I know what OneOffStroker was talking about.
I have to grind a little bit out of the sheetmetal at the "underside" of the IFS, where the metal hits the frame.
No big deal, just measure a few times and then grind ;)

I now have the engine out and took off the steering, e-brake and shockmountsbrackets.
So now we have place for an IFS :metal:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--...o/P1250912.JPG

This piece of metal has to go under the framerails...

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-L...o/P1250913.JPG

If you look closely you see what must be modified on the IFS to mount it properly

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-U...o/P1250914.JPG

Brackets off, steering gone...

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-z...o/P1250919.JPG

oldman3 01-08-2015 06:06 PM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Moving right along...Jim

Kim57 01-08-2015 06:18 PM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Nice progress.
Kim

OneOffStroker 01-10-2015 10:50 AM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Kees - Here is a thread of what and where I notched for the Jag to fit into my frame. About halfway down, he has pictures of the little notch he made to fit it into a 34" frame. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/t...o-f100.571296/

Here is mine, all welded in. I think I am going to add a few more filler pieces and do some more welding now that I have the frame up in the air.
http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/...r/IMGP6836.jpg
http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/...r/IMGP6837.jpg

I hope this info helps. I think it is a better way to go than removing the crossmember and squeezing the frame to make the Jag fit. If you did that, then you would have problems with the radiator support mounts and bumper mounts. It would be hard to get your front sheetmetal aligned if you did that.

RockinKees 01-10-2015 05:41 PM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Thanks OneOff,

Thanks for your pics! The thread about the F100 was known by me ;)
I allready saw where to notch the IFS, at the bottom where the IFS meets the framerails.

I do not squeeze the frame, but I will notch it.

One thing: did you dissamble the upper A-arms before putting the axle under the frame?
Or did you slide it over from the front to where it supposed to be??

OneOffStroker 01-11-2015 11:24 AM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Kees,

I did take the upper arms off and brought the crossmember straight up. This is why I had to take the springs out the first time. That was also the worst experience ever, because I did not have the proper tools to do it, as I mentioned earlier.

I would think that sliding it from the front would create its own problems, especially since we know that the frame needs to be notched for a-arm clearance, I would think it will get stuck several times before it gets to where it needs to be.

RockinKees 01-11-2015 11:37 AM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Okay, thanks!
I thought so...maybe better, can put some paint at it at once ;)

I also made my own tool to put the control arms together, now I have to take them apart again :lol:
At least I know how that works :lol:

I gonna try this first thing in the morning, tomorrow, and see if it's working the way I want it.
Hope to get the IFS in his place by the end of the day, so I can start welding.

RockinKees 01-13-2015 04:53 AM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
I did reach my goal yesterday, I managed to get the IFS where I wanted it.

First I took the controlarms off and grinded little notches in the lower corners to clear the framerails.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-0...o/P1250920.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-k...o/P1250923.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-1...o/P1250924.JPG

Then I test fitted the IFS, it fits the framerails real good, but the stock X-member is in the way to get it at its place...

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-P...o/P1250922.JPG

I tacked in a temporary x-member and got the X-member out

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-p...o/P1250925.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-X...o/P1250926.JPG

With the IFS 3/4" further to the front, I'm now happy with the way the wheel sits in the fender

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8...o/P1250927.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-T...o/P1250928.JPG

The upper controlarm mount also clears the framerails

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-D...o/P1250929.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-d...o/P1250932.JPG

It's now 10 o clock in the morning overhere, I hope I get it completely welded in today, so I'm off now!

Kim57 01-13-2015 09:36 AM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Nice progress.
Looks good.
Kim

reaper71 01-13-2015 10:18 AM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Very cool Kees!! nice work..

oldman3 01-13-2015 10:39 AM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Looks good, will be waiting to see what you get done today...Jim

RockinKees 01-13-2015 04:53 PM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
After a few hours of grinding and welding, the IFS has a new home :metal:

I first made all the gussets that I needed and tacked them in after I tacked the front axle in its place.

This the outside front gusset:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-D...o/P1250933.JPG

The outside back gusset:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-u...o/P1250934.JPG

There also are metal gussets at the inside, from framerails to the axle sheetmetal, unfortunately didn't took pics of these...
But if you look good enough, you see them.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-o...o/P1250935.JPG

I welded all the pieces together as I think it should ;)

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-m...o/P1250936.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--...o/P1250937.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-P...o/P1250938.JPG

Next on the list is some boxing of the framerails, I've got two plates 18 inch long and 1/4 inch thick. I think that should do the job.
Remember, it will not be a dragracer, but more of a dailydriver...:chevy:

I don't know my route yet, will put the rack & pinion and front wheel on, so I can roll a bit.
I think I'm going to make the IRS first and then the enginemounts. I then know where the engine is going to be.
Well, we'll see ;)

Kim57 01-13-2015 05:04 PM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Looks real good.
Kim

RockinKees 01-13-2015 05:06 PM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Thank you Sir!!
I do my best ;)

Advanced Design 01-13-2015 05:48 PM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Looks like you had a good day! Nice progress Kees.

reaper71 01-13-2015 08:10 PM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Pretty damn cool Kees!!

oldman3 01-14-2015 12:07 AM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Very nice job on the install...Jim

RockinKees 01-14-2015 12:48 PM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Thanks guys!!

A bit further with the front end.
I took the lip out of the steeringbox and made it flat, I like it much better this way...
This is how I did it:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-G...o/P1250939.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-n...o/P1250940.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-_...o/P1250941.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-R...o/P1250942.JPG

Next I made some plates to get some strenght at the front end above the IFS

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0...o/P1250943.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Q...o/P1250944.JPG

The plates are straight and the framerails are "bent". First I was thinking to fill the gap between the plates and the framerails with some metal strips, but I managed to get the plates bent towards the frame with some C-clamps.
I like this better.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-S...o/P1250945.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-h...o/P1250946.JPG

The plates are now tacked in, run out of time, so finish welding have to wait....
All is going pretty well, if I may say so ;)

oldman3 01-14-2015 01:10 PM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Looking good...Jim

Kim57 01-14-2015 04:46 PM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Nice work.
Kim

Advanced Design 01-14-2015 10:44 PM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Nice work on getting the box plate in place Kees.

RockinKees 01-16-2015 09:55 AM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Finished welding the boxing plates:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-H...o/IMG_2395.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-K...o/IMG_2397.JPG

That's all for today's work....

reaper71 01-16-2015 11:17 AM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Very nice Sir!!

oldman3 01-16-2015 11:41 AM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Looks really good...Jim

Stepside Jim 01-16-2015 12:42 PM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Looks like a very nice job of blending everything together. Jim

Kim57 01-16-2015 03:52 PM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Very nice.
Kim

RockinKees 01-21-2015 04:17 PM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Today I mounted the wheels and rack and pinion. I had to move the truck a bit to get to work at the backside.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-E...o/P1250952.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-k...o/P1250953.JPG

Have a few things to do thou, have to make shockmounts, mount the anti rollbar, brackets for brakelines and such..
So far, so good!!

I took the plastic bedliner out and was surprised to see that the box was in that good shape!
Sure I need new bedwood, but the box itself is in good shape!!
Too bad the PO had everything mounted with screws, so I have a lot spots to weld, the same as inside the cab. Well, it keeps a man buzzy :uhmk:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-O...o/P1250958.JPG

I want the box off so I can work at the IRS, when that's done its on to the cab.
But...that will be a while before it's that far ;)

Kim57 01-21-2015 05:01 PM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Looks good.
Kim

RockinKees 01-21-2015 05:17 PM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Thanks Kim!!
By the way, how's your project doing??

oldman3 01-21-2015 05:56 PM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Ready to see you start on the rear...Jim

Steve-W 01-21-2015 06:56 PM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Damn! Kees, I just read through the entire thread in one go. Amazing build, keep up the good work!. I'll be following this thread for sure because as we say in dutch: je bent een handige donder. No idear how that translates into english hahaha

I'm down in Hoofddorp, so I'll be sure to visit one day and see it with my own eyes :)

Advanced Design 01-21-2015 07:45 PM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Nice work Kees. Moving right along!

RockinKees 01-22-2015 12:23 PM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Thanks guys!!

Jim, the front is not even ready yet :lol::lol:
But yes, I started on the back half today....

Steve-W, you're always welcome!

So, on with todays pics:

I have, as I told before, a XJ12 IRS, with this ugly cage...
Boy this thing is heavy!

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-e...o/P1250963.JPG

Cage has to go, it's a must!!

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-H...o/P1250966.JPG
That's better ;)

Also tried to take the bed apart, some bolts came out, and some broke or didn't come out at all.
We took the whole bed off and deal with that later.
Now I can see how much space I have to get the IRS in.
I think it's not so difficult, time will tell....

Before the bed came off, I finally found my change from Good Ol' US of A :lol::lol:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-O...o/P1250964.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-A...o/P1250967.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-G...o/P1250968.JPG

To be continued.....

Kim57 01-22-2015 04:02 PM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
That should be a real nice rear suspension in there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockinKees (Post 7013411)
Thanks Kim!!
By the way, how's your project doing??

A little here a little there and I'll eventually get it done.
Kim

63split 01-23-2015 04:07 PM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Thumbs up Kees ! you are going full speed ahead i see
realy nice work on the ifs curious how well the irs wil fit

:flag::flag:
Sander,

RockinKees 01-23-2015 04:48 PM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Thanks Sander!!
Yes, full throttle overhere!!!

And I'm curious too how the IRS will fit the frame...

Boy, am I glad to have your tools in my shop :metal:
Have to do it all alone, and some parts are a bit too heavy for me :sumo:

I come visit you in a short while, have to go to that great Dutch Harbor Freight shop ;)

Step-Ed 01-23-2015 06:23 PM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Lelystad?

RockinKees 01-23-2015 07:03 PM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
What's with Lelystad, Ed??

reaper71 01-23-2015 09:02 PM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Looking good Kees!!!
Keep up the great work..

RockinKees 01-24-2015 06:04 AM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Thanks again, Mark!!


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