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RootBeer 6117 03-31-2011 10:54 AM

Re: Freddy's '52
 
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Originally Posted by 1952ssr (Post 4590805)
That's what I'm wondering...there were no other wires attached. I think I will hook up the (supply) wire to my battery and see what happens using the toggle.

I posted a diagram in my last post check it and see if thats close to the wire colors
Joe

SouthernRodder 04-04-2011 04:46 PM

Re: Freddy's '52
 
SSR,

Great looking truck. I just joined today after reading multiple threads on this forum. Very, very good info on this forum, thanks to guys like you. I am in the planning stages of the S-10 frame swap myself, (well been planning for 2+ yrs) but the time has finally come to turn some wrenches. Will begin demolition in the upcoming weeks. I am curious to know a little more about the guage setup, does that seem like it is going to work properly, fuel sending unit and speedo?? It makes sense that it would. I guess you'll know after you fire it up and take it for a spin. Also what size tires are you running? And what wheel offset / spacers did you or are you using (you may have mentioned already).

I will not be one of these that bugs you with the same old questions already answered on this thread and other threads, but these are really important for me. I have everything else kinda figured out in my mind, just hung up on offset and tire size. And after seeing what you did with the guages I fell in love with that. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Oh yeah my truck will be vortec 4.3 / 18&20 combo / flat copper pearl.

1952ssr 04-04-2011 04:49 PM

Re: Freddy's '52
 
Well I tried hooking up my wiper motor to the battery, nothing. So, I went to the junkyard today looking for a Chrysler mini van, found one and think it will work although it's motor sits in the middle of the cowl area. Then.....I spot a pontiac transport van, and its wipers wipe inside-out also. I'm going back to get its motor cause it is more offset to one side like ours are and the hook up should be the same or close to the S10 harness. I also found other items needed as well. Man I love junkyard hoping.

bretcopsey 04-04-2011 05:09 PM

Re: Freddy's '52
 
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Originally Posted by 1952ssr (Post 4600049)
Well I tried hooking up my wiper motor to the battery, nothing. So, I went to the junkyard today looking for a Chrysler mini van, found one and think it will work although it's motor sits in the middle of the cowl area. Then.....I spot a pontiac transport van, and its wipers wipe inside-out also. I'm going back to get its motor cause it is more offset to one side like ours are and the hook up should be the same or close to the S10 harness. I also found other items needed as well. Man I love junkyard hoping.


You might also consider Chevy Venture/Pontiac Montana/Olds Silhouette as I believe they also wipe from inside out.

By the way, I just sent a pm with a question about your guage setup.

RootBeer 6117 04-04-2011 07:20 PM

Re: Freddy's '52
 
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Originally Posted by 1952ssr (Post 4600049)
. I also found other items needed as well. Man I love junkyard hoping.

Amen Brother, I have spent many a Saturday morning roaming through salvage yards (I like to call them salvage yards out of respect to some folks that take offense to being called "junk yards") I noticed a few weeks ago my wife's 2000 S10 blazer has a two speed rear wiper motor, Thadius(sp) has a cool set up for S10 blazer rear wipers but I think he might use the earlier S10 blazer 1 speed wiper. 98-200 something Jeeps also use a 2 speed rear wiper.

Thadious 04-04-2011 08:14 PM

Re: Freddy's '52
 
Just to chime in, and hopefully give you a little heads up of what I went through in my search!

The original vacuum powered wipers work on a self-reversing setup, where the motor pivots (about 120-140 degrees), stops, then reverses its direction. The only motor I found that would repeat that was the ones from an early 90's S10 Blazer (not to say there isn't more out there), but it's what I found.

If you're looking for a motor, this is something to watch closely. Most modern wipers work parallel to each other and the AD trucks are opposed (they both go from center, up and outwards). This is due to the wiper motor working in a single directional rotation. You will need to find a motor with a secondary gearbox in it to get the reversing rotation and then work out the wiper arm setup.

Please, if you do find a motor like this, that is two speed, LET ME KNOW! As I would love a dual speed as well! (I may be able to find a way to make it worth your while if I can make it work, as I already have a two speed delay wiper setup figured out)

Best of luck!
Ted.

RootBeer 6117 04-05-2011 06:53 AM

Re: Freddy's '52
 
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Originally Posted by Thadious (Post 4600462)
its direction. The only motor I found that would repeat that was the ones from an early 90's S10 Blazer (not to say there isn't more out there), but it's what I found.

Please, if you do find a motor like this, that is two speed, LET ME KNOW! As I would love a dual speed as well! (I may be able to find a way to make it worth your while if I can make it work, as I already have a two speed delay wiper setup figured out)

Best of luck!
Ted.

Ted
I am not 100% sure it what you are looking for but my wifes 2000 s10 blazer rear wiper is two speed it is similar in shape and size to the earlier blazer rear wiper motor.

1952ssr 04-05-2011 02:39 PM

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I had my buddy at the local chevy dealer fax me over the layout for the transport wiper assembly. Check it out and see what you guys think.

RootBeer 6117 04-05-2011 08:40 PM

Re: Freddy's '52
 
looks like an octopus hope I never have to fix one.

1952ssr 04-08-2011 09:10 AM

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Hadn't had much time to work lately, but last night got my brake switch mounted. I used the original pieces from the S10 bracket just did a little cutting and bending. The piece mounted to the brake arm was simply bent 90 degrees, then the piece that the switch mounts into was trimmed of the cruise switch mount extra piece of metal and bent at a 90 and attached to the existing piece in the same location. I should have tooks pictures of each piece before I modified them but, I hope the pictures will help my explanation.

RootBeer 6117 04-09-2011 07:45 AM

Re: Freddy's '52
 
One step closer, when put the brake pedals in from the Buick my bracket sat at an angle to get the booster to set level it looked strange but it worked.

1952ssr 04-19-2011 11:57 AM

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Made some progress, Monday night got the rest of my firewall painted. Now I can mount my hood finally. Dash is next. Taking some time off next week so I plan on getting the a/c heater in and be right at the verge of cranking it.

1952ssr 05-02-2011 04:55 PM

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Actually pushed the truck outside and washed it Saturday. I bought me a auto-darkening helmet and man the best money I've ever spent. I got my front clip braces made, but I had to fight with my hood to fit right. So the grill is now 2 inches higher than before. So I may be tucking the bumper up and in. I intergrated the S10 hood latch cause time has improved them, then attached the radiator top support to that.

watahyahknow 05-02-2011 05:27 PM

Re: Freddy's '52
 
if you can find an extra grille you could add one more beam at the bottom and close the gap that way

RootBeer 6117 05-02-2011 06:37 PM

Re: Freddy's '52
 
Looking good dude! you'll be driving it before you know it... I'd like to see more on the hood latch

sdailey 05-02-2011 07:19 PM

Re: Freddy's '52
 
Outstanding!!

Looking good buddy.;)

1952ssr 05-03-2011 10:51 AM

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Did a little treaking last after getting our garden planted. I had removed the original hood springs cause they seemed to be the culprit keeping the alignment off so I used the S10 rod to hold the hood up. I took the radiator mount off the top, unbolted the fabbed front mounts then pushed down on the front. Hood still lined up pretty good so I'll trim and re-weld my mounts.

Rootbeer, for the latch I took the original hood part off then took the S10 part and centered up the striker latch rod with the '52. Then drilled some holes and bolted it to the hood cross plate. I also lined up the latch plate with the hole on the '52 catch plate. I'll take some good pictures for you tonight.

Shannon, Thanks.....hope ya'll made it thru the storms the other night ok. I was thinking about ya'll.

1952ssr 05-04-2011 02:29 PM

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Rootbeer here's some better pictures of the hood latch. I played around with it last night and found that when I leveled out the catch plate (more like in relation to the S10) it worked better so I'll have to weld a wedge (notice the space in the picture) in place when I attach it to the original plate.

1952ssr 05-16-2011 09:33 AM

Re: Freddy's '52
 
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Well, fender mounts are modified. I got my hood latch welded up then moved onto the radiator top keeper and mounts for the a/c condensor. Not much room left to play with under there. Got my taillights wired up and rear bumper straightened out and adjusted. Still have my beehive marker lights to get and put on but bought done with the rear.

RootBeer 6117 05-16-2011 06:59 PM

Re: Freddy's '52
 
That's cool!, I like the remote hood opener,right now I am wishing I had my radiator the way you have yours. I have mine setting in place but my intake tube is setting to close to the radiator for the fan I have. I have been running the options through my mind
Do I
A. notch the frame shorten the drive shaft and move the engine back.
B. buy a new smaller fan when I have about 10 fans at school in the storage area that are to thick
C. do what you did and move my radiator forward and redesign the hood latch
Decisions,decisions.....
If it was easy I'd build two of them

watahyahknow 05-16-2011 07:03 PM

Re: Freddy's '52
 
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Originally Posted by RootBeer 6117 (Post 4683914)
That's cool!, I like the remote hood opener,right now I am wishing I had my radiator the way you have yours. I have mine setting in place but my intake tube is setting to close to the radiator for the fan I have. I have been running the options through my mind
Do I
A. notch the frame shorten the drive shaft and move the engine back.
B. buy a new smaller fan when I have about 10 fans at school in the storage area that are to thick
C. do what you did and move my radiator forward and redesign the hood latch
Decisions,decisions.....
If it was easy I'd build two of them

couldnt to make the fan a pushfan and mount it on the front of the radiator?

RootBeer 6117 05-16-2011 09:28 PM

Re: Freddy's '52
 
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Originally Posted by watahyahknow (Post 4683921)
couldnt to make the fan a pushfan and mount it on the front of the radiator?

Watahyahknow
that would be option D and a possibility but I am not sure the fan I have has the right fan blade design to push effectively. I just got the trans cooler mounted so I would have to find a new home for that, but its not out of the question.

1952ssr 05-17-2011 09:12 AM

Re: Freddy's '52
 
One thing about the way I have done mine that I never thought about was with cutting the radiator shroud down sure does make working on the engine easy. I need to weld one more piece onto the radiator bar to keep my fan system in place, I happened to do something while working on it and it popped out of the tabs so it needs to be held in place. I have got to buy my intake boot from a 88ish IROC to come straight out with the MAP and then air filter.

RB, I vote for the pushfan as well. I had to cone out one fan shroud to ease more room for the upper hose myself. I will have to put a piece of plastic in between them to eliminate rubbing cause they rest together.

WIDESIDE72 05-19-2011 11:59 PM

Re: Freddy's '52
 
Did I miss on here what radiator you are running?

1952ssr 05-20-2011 09:00 AM

Re: Freddy's '52
 
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Originally Posted by WIDESIDE72 (Post 4690107)
Did I miss on here what radiator you are running?

I am running the Z28 radiator from the donor car.

1952ssr 05-20-2011 09:09 AM

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Started the process of putting the A/C in, would like to slide it more to the drivers side. I plan on making my way to the junkyard in the next fews days to get the transport vans wiper motor then we'll see what happens. I did modify the speaker cover by tacking the cig door shut then cutting off the excess metal to give me a little more room.

1952ssr 07-02-2011 08:28 PM

Re: Freddy's '52
 
Today my son and I got the brakes bled, man what a major hurdle crossed. Monday we are gonna do everything we can to crank it.
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1952ssr 07-05-2011 12:17 PM

Re: Freddy's '52
 
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Originally Posted by 1952ssr (Post 4768159)
Today my son and I got the brakes bled, man what a major hurdle crossed. Monday we are gonna do everything we can to crank it.
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Monday filled it with antifreeze fixed a small leak at one of the banjo fittings, put some fuel in with no leaks then hooked up the battery. Turned the key and NOTHING....so I pulled out the voltage metter checked the battery 12.1v then onto the power block (one I pulled from a S10), 12.1 on the battery side 0 on the other. A storm was coming up so I unhooked the battery and called it a day. This week I'll change out that block with one from a Z28 and maybe we'll get some current going through.

watahyahknow 07-05-2011 12:33 PM

Re: Freddy's '52
 
murphies law , everything only happens when you DONT need it to happen
i hope thats the last thing to go wrong

1952ssr 07-06-2011 11:41 AM

Re: Freddy's '52
 
Changed the link out. Looking at the old S10 one I had, I saw what was wrong, installed the Z28 one. Turned the key and to my ears the sweet hum of the fuel pump. Purged the fuel lines with about 5 turns of the key, said a prayer and with one full turn of the key IT CAME ALIVE. Of course I may have some kinks to work out , it seemed to be running good and rich also the coolant gauge never went up (which I may have a wire crossed) and I forgot to install an new thermostat and then install a oil pressure guage. One more thing to do is change my tranny fluid and filter while it's on the jack stands and then get my gas pedal installed so I can back it out of the shop. MAN I AM STOOKED!!!!!!!!!

RootBeer 6117 07-06-2011 12:05 PM

Re: Freddy's '52
 
Awesome!

62ChevyII 07-06-2011 12:11 PM

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Congrats!

watahyahknow 07-06-2011 12:20 PM

Re: Freddy's '52
 
a nice thing about warmer weather is that projects start to move toward the first drive or the vroom of the engine

1952ssr 07-06-2011 04:51 PM

Re: Freddy's '52
 
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Originally Posted by watahyahknow (Post 4774444)
a nice thing about warmer weather is that projects start to move toward the first drive or the vroom of the engine

You said it, I basically have two months to get it road worthy before Septembers Rod Run in Pigeon Froge. But, I feel like I'll make it. I sure would like to have it drivible for the Moonshine festival in Hiawassee Georgia the second weekend in August.

1952ssr 07-12-2011 04:47 PM

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It's looking like my aveo cluster isn't going to work. The only thing working is the tach and it reads 1500 rpms at idle. So instead spending money on calibrating it or buying aftermarket ones I'm going Friday to the junkyard and getting the one out of the Z28 my motor came from. Everything will work and hey even the odometer will be correct. I know I'll have to do some serious fab work on my dash , but it will be worth it. Since the post on here for the ones with 52's and seeing its dash I feel motivated. Something simular to this on the cluster side.

watahyahknow 07-12-2011 05:27 PM

Re: Freddy's '52
 
usually the mecanics of those dails are mounted with two small screws to the facia , maibe you can use the aveo cluster you wanted to mount and mount the mecanics of the gauges out of the camaro behind it as long as the numbers on the dail are spaced the same it should work ok

http://pafirefighter11.smugmug.com/F...0_RNFc3-XL.jpg
http://www.chevrolet.com/assets/en/i...7chae00004.jpg
hmmmm looking at the revcounter and the endspeed on the speedo's i dont think that would work

56ClassicTruck 07-12-2011 05:57 PM

Re: Freddy's '52
 
Hey joey, good to hear you got the lt1 started, hope you make the show ..........
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RootBeer 6117 07-12-2011 07:42 PM

Re: Freddy's '52
 
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Originally Posted by 1952ssr (Post 4786578)
It's looking like my aveo cluster isn't going to work. The only thing working is the tach and it reads 1500 rpms at idle. So instead spending money on calibrating it or buying aftermarket ones I'm going Friday to the junkyard and getting the one out of the Z28 my motor came from. Everything will work and hey even the odometer will be correct. I know I'll have to do some serious fab work on my dash , but it will be worth it. Since the post on here for the ones with 52's and seeing its dash I feel motivated. Something simular to this on the cluster side.

Bummer I was hoping it was going to work, we made progress using a dash from a 90 lebaron with the similar quad gauge set up we got 2 of the 4 working before school ended and left it there, I am hoping to get some work done before school starts but other thing get in the way.
Joe

1952ssr 07-18-2011 12:15 PM

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I spent 2 hours at the junkyard Friday getting almost everything I needed to complete "Fred", picked up the cluster, seat belts, wiper motor and other goodies. Saturday got the cluster wired and put into the dash, will have picture tomorrow cause I have to make a change on it tonight. But it works great just enough room left for the headlight switch and wiper motor. I also have to replace the brake booster, seems the truck sat so long the vaccum is gone; pedal is hard as snot to push. I backed the truck outside for a good 50 yrds to take a look... man it's low, then when I went to pull it back the motor stumbled and the SES light came on. Luckily I have many gearhead friends and a couple is coming over with a scanner to check everything out.

Get the windows in, go to the tag office, call my insurance office, an alignment and I might get this thing to a show next month.

1952ssr 07-19-2011 09:11 AM

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Here are a couple of pictures of the Z cluster in the truck.


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