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nice job! you guys can come put one in my 67 i dont mind ill buy the beer lol

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Make mine a root beer please :D

Slight delay while I watched my girls for a bit....

My reply was wiped so the cliff notes...

New old rear ubolts cut
rear and trailing arms degreased and pressure washed
Used leaf blower to dry so I can prime and paint tonight hopefully
Two coats now on front and rear of frame
Working on cab mounts to finish under frame and remove crossmember
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Looking good sir! And I must say I prefer root beer too! lol

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Looking good!
Did you use anything to clean up the frame other than your pressure washer to remove debris, like for instance a wire cup/wheel or poly carbonite disk to remove rust before you painted?

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Thanks!

Thanks, on this one I used a scraper on some loose paint and a wire wheel on a 4 1/2" grinder for one spot of undercoating....then reminded myself I have a fast approaching deadline and k.i.s.s. on other frames I've used a combination of wire wheels, wire cups, and 60 grit on a grinder. This one has a lot of factory undercoating on it but it's good protection and it's a driver so I left it
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Speaking of building a driver....realized this became a body-off frame restoration tonight ;) have the front clip and bed off and tonight had the cab lifted off the chassis...

Got new cab mounts in (painted the hardware and reused the bottoms since they don't actually separate the body from the frame and they were in "good nick" as they say on british car shows :lol:

Painted the frame under the truck and started removal of the manual crossmember....I decided it wasn't worth my time after lifting the cab way up and grinding the rivets off only to be unable to drive them out due to lack of space...I cut the top side and then realized it was almost 9pm on a school night so I will wait for another day....cpp tubular mount on order will take a week or so anyways...

Also ended up being too cold and humid for painting so I'm in "early". Have a full day of contractor work tomorrow (kitchen and bath cad layouts) so I'm going to get some rest...back at it tomorrow night...
Pics show new rear mount, and difference in old vs new front mounts and core support mounts.
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Invisible rear mounts...cool, huh? :lol:

Forgot to mention I also came up with a gameplan tonight for the front clip. Sprayed the hardware I need to remove with penetrant. Unwrapped the cowl seal so it could stretch out and straighten out before install. Working on getting the interior ordered...as well as the last suspension parts...

I removed the cardboard-esque material under the mat tonight....it was still wet and the last time liquid was near the truck was over 2 days and I've had the doors open all day/night as I work on it....so I will spray that areat with rust converter and then install some pieces of dynamat I have leftover under the mat, under the seat, under the gas tank, and on the back wall behind the gas tank.
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LOL mine is going to be a daily driver also but I find I cant leave anything untouched I just cant help myself.
I have to do all of it or none of it but then im not really on a deadline either.

Also as a side note I have a product recommendation for you as well.
I dont know if you have tried them before but Poly Carbonite discs on a Heavy Duty 11,000 RPM side angle grinder is AWESOME I did the majority of all my rust removal with them.
Poly Carbonite disks are gentle enough to not remove metal, but tough enough to strip paint, body filler and rust, it is probably the most versitile all in one disk I have ever used and it leaves a very nice surface behind for primer.
If you havent ever tried any buy the 4 1/2" harbor freight brand they are inexpensive and hold up well.
As a restoration guy I thought you might apreciate a tip on anything that will save you time and money but if you have used them before you already know how great it is and someone else can take my advice and give Poly Carbonite disks a try.
Happy Trucking!

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Thanks! Is this what you're referring to? If so, I have a few and definitely use them on sheetmetal to minimize warpage/material removal....but prefer something more agressive on the frames...

Believe me....this has gone further than originally planned already. Ripping all the wiring out to make sure it's all good....full body off frame so I can change mounts and clean/paint the frame...

It's going to have patina on the outside and inside sheetmetal but everywhere else like new or better :D
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If this is going to be my rolling advertising it needs to be done right...frame looks good in person and I'm sure most won't look under, but when they do, they will see a painted frame, clean wiring, and some accent colors (silver)

Here are a few more pictures while I wait for my assignment....now 35 minutes sitting here on the forum they will pay me for :D

...under the factory rubber mat is a white foam like material and then under that is a dense cardboard-esque material that has disentegrated over the years....all looked perfect actually until I lifted it to change the front cab mounts and it fell to pieces :whine:

Don't know who's bright idea this stuff was....I guess it was for insulation/noise control/padding; but in the end its' main purpose has been to hold in moisture to rust the floor pans.

Thankfully both are very solid but have surface rust. I need to remove the mat without destroying it and then clean up the floor and paint it with rust neutralizer/converter...then will put down some dynamat I have and either put this mat back or a full mat I have.

May even just lift the mat and not fully remove so as not to destroy it.
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Yeah I figured you had used Poly Carbonite disks before but I like to be helpfull and ya never know untill you ask right?
Im sure that stuff they put under the floor mat was considered adequate at the time, I mean we are talking about 1967 here, and Chevrolet wasnt NASA :lol:

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I definitely appreciate the help! Making sure we were talking about the same thing...

I learn something new every day on here and as I work on the truck. This is my first complete 67 so I'm seeing a lot of the 67 specific items actually on the truck for the first time
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Man they always are "drivers" until we start looking harder am I right? :lol: great Job on progress so far looks awesome
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Jonathon my 72 had a rubber mat and everything else you found there my cardboard was dry but you could vacume the dust up easier than trying to pick it up. An air hose with a blower removed all of mine. Starting to look like a lot of work

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Thanks! I can't leave well enough alone :D

Yep, a LOT of work! But is going to be worth it. Should be good advertising and something I can enjoy and use as well.

Good talking with you....go with air ride ;)

Got the rear and trailing arms primered and painted....and rust reformer sprayed under the mat and at the rocker seams...

On thepic of the rear...the e-brake cable is painted the silver paint...same as the trailing arms.....also will paint the a-arms when I bag it...and paint the rest of the ebrake stuff to match as well...just to add a little accent...
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If you are like me the work involved is the fun part because I like to create and when I restore something I try to improve on the original work and leave my mark on it hopefully for the better.
As far as a shop truck goes as long as you are diligent and keep to a yearly scheduled maintenance checklist on the truck it will literally drive forever and its condition wont deteriorate any further than it is when you finish it.
Also there is no reason why you cant improve on it here and there as you go along.
Here is some food for thought, as far as keeping the natural patina goes keep in mind that the shop truck represents your business and not everyone gets the "patina" thing as you know and people are judgemental by nature.
Psychology is complicated, some people may have a adverse reaction to the truck being what they would consider beat up and rusty.
You might want to consider painting it at some point when you can afford to do it, because there is virtually no one that would think "man he ruined it by restoring it" see what im getting at?
Anyway its something to think about and its just an opinion, and you know what they say about opinions, so take it for what its worth.

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I certainly appreciate all the input I can get!

I have thought about people's perception and have friends and neighbors who are shocked I'm going through all this work and not painting it....but it'll be more fun for me if it's not perfect and I can use it w/out worrying about scratching it....and I can continue to upgrade as I go like you mentioned...

At this point trying to do everything I NEED to do so that I can drive it to the board meet on the 13th of next month....while dxoing that I come across items that are easier to do now vs later they will take a lot more time and/or require me tear the truck down again......

Went out to eat with my wife (mother-in-law watched our three girls) and when I got back I went through my partsz for this truck and proj#1 to see what I need to order on a tight deadline.
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I hear ya on the part about using it without worrying about scratching it but you dont have to put a $10,000 paint job on it either. You can put a John Deer Impliment paint job on it and it will look real nice for years and it will be cheap too, you cant beat that!

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I forgot to add the other reasons this one won't be painted now....

1st: my wife loves the way it looks and I do too....as do all my enthusiast friends
...it's a niche...but a big one....right now I'm seeing patina trucks sell for more than some comparable trucks with decent paint jobs
...also at shows the patina trucks get the attention...

Hopefully the business takes off and I can afford to build my second company/personal vehicle and retire my wife's van (200k miles). That will be a custom full on show truck crew cab 67.....with shiny paint :D
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I dont disagree about choosing to keep the truck the way it is now, the most important thing is for you to be happy.
Man you must have some serious fabrication skills or you are willing to spend 15,000 to have the cab custom made by atvpro either way it will be awesome and a very fun project.
If things work out with my latest business plans I might be calling atvpro myself in the near future.

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Lovin the look of this truck! This is the route my dad and I are going with on our short step 68. The red oxide primer with a flat clear, some pinstripping and maybe some door logos. It is gonna be sweet! Keep up the good work. If I am ever near Richmond I will drop by to help you out!

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Your build is perfect for a daily driver. I would not do anything different then how you are doing it.

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X2:chevy::chevy:
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Nice ride bro

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Xeen i'll go ahead and say the pg rated version on opinions so noone gets offended "opinions are like belly buttons everyone has one" :lol:

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hahaha! Exactly :lol:

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Nice work, truck is looking good. You are right, patina is in right now and your truck will look solid everywhere like you said painted frame, clean wiring, clean motor, nice interior etc. I think people will realize your quality of work.
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Thanks everyone! Got a lot done tonight and took a lot of pictures but need to hit the hay....long day tomorrow again....

Quick overview....got my rear bag brackets in and painted

Engine, trans, and engine pulleys/alt prepped, primed, painted and cleared

Also a picture of how clean my cab floors/inner rockers are (undercoating did its' job)
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Exciting (and expensive) day today! Ordering all my saddle interior parts from forum vendor truckseats. Seat cover with houndstooth inserts, door panels to cover the factory ones, headliner (going up w/out trim) and material for my dash pad and visors.

Some more pictures from last night.
Decided to pull up the mat and spray rust converter everywhere there was surface rust. Then sprayed a satin black top coat.

Sprayed undercoating in the wiring gutter. Sprayed rust converter and primed them the other day. There is some rust but now I'm confident it's been stopped and is sealed up now. Probably do one or two more coats of this to level it out nicely.

If/when I eventually do the LS swap....I will shave the firewall and wire gutter at that point


Also cut out the rust in the front cab support and sprayed rust converter inside. I cut much bigger than the actual rust to make sure I was back to good metal and can weld in a nice rectangular patch.
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Oh...and the last picture....tightening down the valve covers and before it was even tight this bolt (bought in a kit from summit) broke off. Thankfully there was enough left exposed for me to get it out with some vice grips.
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I think you'll finish this one....oops...did I just jinx this build:lol:

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:haha:
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Yikes that bolt woulda been scary to get outta that spot. Tell me how the truckseats order goes I'm looking to get a white and black houndstooth for my bench in the near future
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Oh he'll finish this one! I put my own name on that one! :metal:

Jonathan, I see a freshly painted motor and trans. What don't see is an old crossmember laying on the ground! tick tock tic...:lol:

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Just got two pair of those and they are super nice....been very happy with his products and service.

Yes sir! Finishing this one up for sure!

The crossmember is 1/2 out ;) picked up larger cut off wheels tonight!

Updates tomorrow...
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Crossmember is 80% out....brief break while I tend to my wounds and work on the other project...
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enigine and tranny turned out very nice :chevy:

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Just a flesh wound on my upper arm....laying on my back with no room under the truck....blade catches on the tiny piece left and swings down catching my shirt....and twisting into my arm...

My fault for using a 6" balde on a 4 1/2" grinder....nowhere to hold it firm enough for the kick-backs....

Got the floor finished up last night and jammed the passenger door in satin black as well as the firewall...
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Im glad you are ok, I take it you got lucky and didnt get wounded real bad like I did, You were wearing safety clothing that saved you?

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yea his sweat shirt was made with kevlar :lol: