The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network (https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/index.php)
-   The 1967 - 1972 Chevrolet & GMC Pickups Message Board (https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/forumdisplay.php?f=3)
-   -   power window regulators on the cheap (https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=601167)

MARKDTN 12-29-2021 10:39 AM

Re: power window regulators on the cheap
 
2 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Metaldoc (Post 8801453)
I tried to clear it up

This drawing is great! but there is still a bit of detail that is missing so I guessed at them. I have drawn this and would also like to make a dxf file so it could be cut. Does anybody who made this version know if the 3 highlighted dimensions are close or if they even matter?

MARKDTN 12-29-2021 11:37 AM

Re: power window regulators on the cheap
 
2 Attachment(s)
And the other version. Any ideas on the highlighted dimensions? I took a guess. I can create dxf files for both and have them as a 1:1 pdf so if printed on 11x17 they can be a pattern if I knew the dimensions were right.

MARKDTN 12-30-2021 10:09 AM

Re: power window regulators on the cheap
 
4 Attachment(s)
After looking carefully at the installation photos, I made some assumptions and here are the 2 different plates. For each there is (1) a pdf that is 1:1 if printed on 11x17 paper. It could be used as a pattern (2) a jpg picture that has all the dimensions.

And I have a dxf file for each. I wanted to attach but it is not a valid file type. PM me if you would like the .dxf file. For those that can use this it is scaled 1:1 and shown next to an empty "A" size border. This could be cut on plasma, laser, water jet, etc. I make no promises that either of these is right, only that these are the given dimensions with my assumptions. I show 1/8 holes for the motor. One place showed drilled and tapped 1/4-20 so that is what the drawing shows. Looks like most drill these out and use bolts with nylock nuts. The holes shown give you a place to drill based on what the other drawings show. If you want to do these holes all yourself, whoever uses the dxf can pretty easily remove these before cutting.

Jason Banks 12-30-2021 12:38 PM

Re: power window regulators on the cheap
 
Nice work! Have you got any cut yet? How do they fit?

Not sure if it works on this message board, but I've seen people rename files to get them to upload something like REGPLATETYPE2DXF.pdf basically change the filename where the guy that downloads it needs to change the filename to get it to work.

MARKDTN 12-30-2021 03:03 PM

Re: power window regulators on the cheap
 
1 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason Banks (Post 9012785)
Nice work! Have you got any cut yet? How do they fit?

Not sure if it works on this message board, but I've seen people rename files to get them to upload something like REGPLATETYPE2DXF.pdf basically change the filename where the guy that downloads it needs to change the filename to get it to work.

This is a down-the-road project. I had a little down time and saw these and thought, I could create these. I also realized after I posted that the Type 1 could be dimensioned more simply if it was turned. Still the same pdf pattern and dxf. If someone tries one of them before I get to this, and it needs a tweak, just let me know.

BigBird05 12-30-2021 05:36 PM

Re: power window regulators on the cheap
 
If you start to make them let us know so we can buy them from you.

Jason Banks 01-01-2022 01:20 PM

Re: power window regulators on the cheap
 
I was checking what thickness these were made out of. I think the original one say they were cut from 1/8 and I notice your drawing has 3/16.

Can anyone comment on 1/8 vs 3/16?

I have had the original drawing saved since it was first posted. Not sure why it fascinates me so much. I don't really want power(only) windows. But, always thought I 'd build a set.

70STOVEBOLT 01-01-2022 02:53 PM

Re: power window regulators on the cheap
 
I made mine out of 1/8” thick plate steel.

Peanut74 01-06-2022 10:09 AM

Re: power window regulators on the cheap
 
For those of you looking for the window motors at your local puul a part yard:
Dorman 742-142 and 742-143
They were used on '84 -'09 GM and '96-'00 '05-'08 Isuzu

70STOVEBOLT 01-06-2022 02:08 PM

Re: power window regulators on the cheap
 
I believe any motor with a 9-tooth gear should work.

Peanut74 01-06-2022 04:46 PM

Re: power window regulators on the cheap
 
70Stovebolt,
Not sure about the 9 tooth motor. I just was going by what bonnieclyde100 did to make his work. I did have some Toyota window motors that I tried to use. The issue I ran into was that the motor gear was not tall enough to engage the window arm gear. So that is where I think the difference lies and the ones he used have a taller motor gear.

I'm also working on making some window switches using the old window crank handle. I think I have it all worked out and will be posting a DIY once I make sure everything works the way it is suppose to. :metal:

70STOVEBOLT 01-06-2022 05:22 PM

Re: power window regulators on the cheap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Peanut74 (Post 9015603)
70Stovebolt,
Not sure about the 9 tooth motor. I just was going by what bonnieclyde100 did to make his work. I did have some Toyota window motors that I tried to use. The issue I ran into was that the motor gear was not tall enough to engage the window arm gear. So that is where I think the difference lies and the ones he used have a taller motor gear.

I'm also working on making some window switches using the old window crank handle. I think I have it all worked out and will be posting a DIY once I make sure everything works the way it is suppose to. :metal:

I don't remember the part number of the motors I used, they were new GM motors, I just remember they had a 9-tooth drive gear. If I can find the part numbers, I will post them. Looking forward to the DIY on the switches.

Peanut74 01-06-2022 11:38 PM

Re: power window regulators on the cheap
 
One question I have is when you assemble the motor to the regulator arm is it at a direct 90 degrees or is there a different angle I should shoot for?

70STOVEBOLT 01-07-2022 11:29 AM

Re: power window regulators on the cheap
 
I made mine using a 90 degree angle.

Peanut74 01-08-2022 10:22 AM

Re: power window regulators on the cheap
 
Thanks, looking at the pictures that is what thought but wanted to be sure. Second question, when you weld the motor plate to the assembly did you weld it inline with the arms pivot point or is it offset some?
Thanks

70STOVEBOLT 01-08-2022 10:33 AM

Re: power window regulators on the cheap
 
I welded it in line.

Peanut74 01-08-2022 09:49 PM

Re: power window regulators on the cheap
 
Ok thanks. That is what I thought when I laid it out but wanted to be sure. I already need to cut one apart as I welded the armature gear upside down. :devil:

Peanut74 01-17-2022 06:05 PM

Re: power window regulators on the cheap
 
Well I got my set finally done. Used this thread for the key dimensions and my design. I tried to simplify the design as much as possible. Below is the link to my thread:

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=829693

Thanks to those above that helped out on this upgrade. :metal:

R.O.B. 01-20-2023 06:50 PM

Re: power window regulators on the cheap
 
Sorry if this was said and I missed it, but what stops the window at the top and bottom? Or do you just control the switch?

70STOVEBOLT 01-23-2023 09:56 PM

Re: power window regulators on the cheap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by R.O.B. (Post 9169223)
Sorry if this was said and I missed it, but what stops the window at the top and bottom? Or do you just control the switch?

The window track inside the door.

starman13 10-05-2023 11:34 PM

Re: power window regulators on the cheap
 
this guy has some good info on wiring windows
https://youtu.be/Avo_35OUCPM?si=lT4_IjGa9DIRTM1r

starman13 09-05-2024 11:57 AM

Re: power window regulators on the cheap
 
I am offering These plates if anyone wants for $10.00 +shipping.
There are two types. And I don't do the small holes for adjustability.PM me with what
type.

Joyridin 09-21-2024 01:27 PM

Re: power window regulators on the cheap
 
Sorry to have to bring this up again, but when you mounted the motors and did all the mods, did you reinstall the spring? Mine is 1/2 a rotation further around than when the regulators were original, which would put one heck of a load on the window. Di you leave the springs off or can they be left off?

I can probably cut and modify the spring to fit, but if I can avoid that, all the better.

70STOVEBOLT 09-21-2024 09:02 PM

Re: power window regulators on the cheap
 
I left the spring on.

Algoma56 09-22-2024 08:13 PM

Re: power window regulators on the cheap
 
Watched a YouTube video recently by FoothillPaintFabrication, and he put the spring back on. Felt it worked better with it. On a 1965 Malibu, but same theory of adapting power motor.

Joyridin 09-23-2024 07:35 AM

Re: power window regulators on the cheap
 
Thanks. I will try to use it.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:06 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2025 67-72chevytrucks.com