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SCHRUMGMC 07-18-2014 09:12 PM

Re: Project "Schrum" 1959 Gmc 100
 
I've been gone out of town for a week, honestly I have not even touched it and neither do I care right now as I have no money

SCHRUMGMC 08-01-2014 09:08 AM

Re: Project "Schrum" 1959 Gmc 100
 
Finally fixed the problem
Put a new Fuel pump in, all it needed was priming
Put a new fuel line on

I will put a new Vacuum line on here soon

lowrodderchev 08-01-2014 10:20 AM

Re: Project "Schrum" 1959 Gmc 100
 
Sweet glad you got her running

Denee007 08-01-2014 11:16 AM

Re: Project "Schrum" 1959 Gmc 100
 
Good job! I bet it's nice to hear it running again!
dne'

SCHRUMGMC 08-01-2014 11:38 AM

Re: Project "Schrum" 1959 Gmc 100
 
It sat there for so long the grass died under it Ha !!
I need to do the tail light wiring on it to finish that to make it look decent under there

Well, I have a local newspaper coming out to do a story on me and the truck. It may make it to Magazines not really sure.

Daze57 08-01-2014 11:54 AM

Re: Project "Schrum" 1959 Gmc 100
 
Good Deal !!! Glad you got it up and runnin;
Good luck with the newspaper story -i;m sure your grandfather would be proud of you.

Denee007 08-01-2014 12:35 PM

Re: Project "Schrum" 1959 Gmc 100
 
Just for fun, you may want to start writing your story in advance (don't be too wordy), then fine tune your story to the point, possibly with a past pic or two, that way when you're approached, you'll have the story ready. If they don't, you'll have a story to pass down to your grandchildren;) Keep the story short and sweet; humans today have short attention spans and don't like to read paragraph after paragraph.
Perhaps put your story on here~ we'll proof it for you, but remember short and to the point!;)

OrrieG 08-02-2014 12:28 PM

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Glad its running, usually something basic. Denee, probably good post, but you lost me after the first sentence!!!;

Denee007 08-02-2014 03:15 PM

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Hey Orrie! I was just offering suggestions for if/when Schrum gets a spot in his local magazine. See that last sentence that he wrote down below;)
dne'

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Originally Posted by SCHRUMGMC (Post 6784352)
It sat there for so long the grass died under it Ha !!
I need to do the tail light wiring on it to finish that to make it look decent under there

Well, I have a local newspaper coming out to do a story on me and the truck. It may make it to Magazines not really sure.


SCHRUMGMC 08-02-2014 10:21 PM

Re: Project "Schrum" 1959 Gmc 100
 
I went to start the truck today and it wouldn't stay cranked
I've got to figure somethings out with this thing quick

coralhead 08-03-2014 09:37 AM

Re: Project "Schrum" 1959 Gmc 100
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SCHRUMGMC (Post 6786122)
I went to start the truck today and it wouldn't stay cranked
I've got to figure somethings out with this thing quick

How much fuel do you have in the tank. If you are going to siphon from the fuel opening you should have the bottom of the pickup tube at least 4 to 6 inches below the surface of the fuel. These 235's use more fuel than you think . If you suck just a bit of air from the line coming out of the gas surface you will lose siphon. You could then again put the fuel tank in the truck and get that working before anyone comes and takes pictures. Makes it look like you know what you are doing. If it's a newspaper article they can imply that it is running unless they want to put a video in the article. Not too many videos in the printed papers.

SCHRUMGMC 08-03-2014 06:19 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deBKS...ature=youtu.be
Truck runs awful

SCHRUMGMC 08-28-2014 02:42 PM

Re: Project "Schrum" 1959 Gmc 100
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd-9-...ature=youtu.be

Adjusted the timing and it cranked up again, still have issues with pushing the choke in

Denee007 08-28-2014 07:01 PM

Re: Project "Schrum" 1959 Gmc 100
 
Hey Howard, so it runs now except for the choke? or does it die out when you push the choke in? or is it just an bad choke cable? Have you driven it since you've gotten it running?;)
dne'

SCHRUMGMC 08-28-2014 10:10 PM

Re: Project "Schrum" 1959 Gmc 100
 
How do I know if its a bad choke cable?
I've driven it occasionally, it dies when I push the choke in, watch the video and you'll see what happens to it

Denee007 08-28-2014 10:31 PM

Re: Project "Schrum" 1959 Gmc 100
 
Well, if you pull on the choke knob, it should pull the little lever which closes the choke plate inside the carburetor, thus "choking" to bring more gas on a cold start, and visa versa. Pull the air cleaner off, have someone work the choke and you see what's actually going on under the hood. It's quite a simple thing. You might check for vacuum leaks. I can imagine the single barrel carburetor might need attention; though simple, sure can make for some running problems.
I did watch the video ;) I had a similar problem with the 6 cylinder that was in my truck from the start. I got it to run, but ran crappy. Now I have a nice running sbc.
Keep analyzing, you'll get there!
dne'

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Originally Posted by SCHRUMGMC (Post 6821298)
How do I know if its a bad choke cable?
I've driven it occasionally, it dies when I push the choke in, watch the video and you'll see what happens to it


SCHRUMGMC 08-28-2014 10:48 PM

Re: Project "Schrum" 1959 Gmc 100
 
Thanks Denee, that is what I thought with the choke :lol:
The carburetor has been rebuilt. it squirts gas out the shaft thing

I put new tail light housings on the truck, just wondering how I can wire it up

BlackedOut67shorty 08-28-2014 10:49 PM

Re: Project "Schrum" 1959 Gmc 100
 
It is hard to tell how it is running from the video. If its manual choke go to the carb and open it up all the way as if it was all warmed up, my 67 c10 had a bad stumble to it cause my choke cable was still engauged even tho i took it off choke making my truck run on fast idle and then shutting off when i gave it the beans. Also have you checked for any vacuum leaks, should be too many places to leak from on an inline.

Denee007 08-28-2014 11:22 PM

Re: Project "Schrum" 1959 Gmc 100
 
well, take a close look at your carburetor, shouldn't be squirting gas out, not to mention a potential fire hazard! EEk!

As for you tail lights~ is there existing wiring where the lights would go? Do you have a test light? You may want to buy one and have it on hand for checking wiring to see if particular wires are Hot, or not. You may have to start at the fuse box, trace wires under the truck, check for cut wires, bad connections, etc..
dne'


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Originally Posted by SCHRUMGMC (Post 6821349)
Thanks Denee, that is what I thought with the choke :lol:
The carburetor has been rebuilt. it squirts gas out the shaft thing

I put new tail light housings on the truck, just wondering how I can wire it up


SCHRUMGMC 08-29-2014 12:04 AM

Re: Project "Schrum" 1959 Gmc 100
 
What can I use to connect the new wires? I have a female connector that out go on the wire to connect to the prongs. I'd like to get the dome light, and tail lights/turn signals working

BlackedOut67shorty 08-29-2014 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SCHRUMGMC (Post 6821466)
What can I use to connect the new wires? I have a female connector that out go on the wire to connect to the prongs. I'd like to get the dome light, and tail lights/turn signals working

There should already be a harness for it, if its gone just got to a pick and pull to get another pigtail and solder your wires to the pigtail and plug em in

SCHRUMGMC 08-29-2014 12:30 PM

Re: Project "Schrum" 1959 Gmc 100
 
Do I just use the generator wiring and put connectors on them?
Where can I get brackets at? Can I use one off of another I6?

BlackedOut67shorty 08-29-2014 06:09 PM

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:uhmk:I just got confused

SCHRUMGMC 08-29-2014 06:19 PM

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I use the Generator wiring for the alternator right?

Tried getting an alternator bracket off for my truck today at a local junkyard and couldn't get it off so I gave up on it. Looks like I will have to buy a new bracket set

The truck I tried getting it off of
Its a 71 Chevy with an I6

Rita 08-29-2014 08:34 PM

Re: Project "Schrum" 1959 Gmc 100
 
LOL - looks like my "Rita" is ahead of you "grandfather" - keep up the good work :-)

lowrodderchev 08-29-2014 08:50 PM

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does it look like this?

Attachment 1295469

SCHRUMGMC 08-29-2014 09:10 PM

Re: Project "Schrum" 1959 Gmc 100
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rita (Post 6822569)
LOL - looks like my "Rita" is ahead of you "grandfather" - keep up the good work :-)

Yeah, it'll get there. For some reason it keeps dying when I push the choke in

Quote:

Originally Posted by lowrodderchev (Post 6822583)
does it look like this?

Attachment 1295469

I have no clue Lowrodder, I know that I will have to get new brackets. That looks to be a V8 one

lowrodderchev 08-29-2014 09:43 PM

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that's the one I'm using on my 6 cylinder with a arm to adjust it bolts to the drivers side of the motor

SCHRUMGMC 08-29-2014 09:46 PM

Re: Project "Schrum" 1959 Gmc 100
 
Does anyone have a clue how to install the transmission cover?
Mine doesn't have the hole where the gas pedal goes on

SCHRUMGMC 09-01-2014 12:46 AM

Re: Project "Schrum" 1959 Gmc 100
 
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Got the Horn cap polished up

Kim57 09-01-2014 10:43 AM

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Nice and shiny.
Kim

SCHRUMGMC 09-02-2014 02:28 PM

Re: Project "Schrum" 1959 Gmc 100
 
I have a Mouse problem in the truck damn things are everywhere in it. The bench seat has a nest in it. To top it off the Distributor is behaving erratic and all over the place. Thank God I have a backup distributor if it is worn out

OrrieG 09-02-2014 07:34 PM

Re: Project "Schrum" 1959 Gmc 100
 
See you are back at it, here are some comments.

1. Choke issue. Usually when it runs fine with choke closed but dies when you open the choke it is a vacuum leak. The additional air from the leak leans it out so it will not run. High idle with choke on disquises the problem. Get a vacuum gauge and hook it up you will find it is low and bouncing all over the place. Take starter fluid and spray around the manifold base, carb shaft, vac advance fittings, if the engine raises the rpm you have found the leak. If it is reading 16-18 on the vac gauge they it is another problem.

2. Tail light wiring. Since you are starting from scratch I would recommend using a trailer connector to connect the tail, turn and future back up lights to the front harness. Bonus is when you pull the bed you are just unplugging one thing. Just solder the connectors, cover with shrink wrap and you are good to go. I used them for my front turn signal grille, dash bezel and in the back too.

3. Generator to alternator swap: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=526547

4. Post a pic of the trans cover, don’t understand the throttle question. Sounds like it was changed out at some point.

And hello to D’ne good to see you back.

SCHRUMGMC 09-02-2014 08:04 PM

Re: Project "Schrum" 1959 Gmc 100
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OrrieG (Post 6827745)
See you are back at it, here are some comments.

1. Choke issue. Usually when it runs fine with choke closed but dies when you open the choke it is a vacuum leak. The additional air from the leak leans it out so it will not run. High idle with choke on disquises the problem. Get a vacuum gauge and hook it up you will find it is low and bouncing all over the place. Take starter fluid and spray around the manifold base, carb shaft, vac advance fittings, if the engine raises the rpm you have found the leak. If it is reading 16-18 on the vac gauge they it is another problem.

2. Tail light wiring. Since you are starting from scratch I would recommend using a trailer connector to connect the tail, turn and future back up lights to the front harness. Bonus is when you pull the bed you are just unplugging one thing. Just solder the connectors, cover with shrink wrap and you are good to go. I used them for my front turn signal grille, dash bezel and in the back too.

3. Generator to alternator swap: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=526547

4. Post a pic of the trans cover, don’t understand the throttle question. Sounds like it was changed out at some point.

And hello to D’ne good to see you back.


The Transmission cover came out of a V8 so it won't fit the I6 area it is different. The Distributor is behaving weird, it shoots around to the retarded timing area when I try to set it. Thanks for the Link

SCHRUMGMC 09-03-2014 06:03 PM

Re: Project "Schrum" 1959 Gmc 100
 
I believe my Distributor is broken now due to it moving around erratically like its doing. It is moving around to the Retarded timing area. Its tightened down as it can get, it just started doing thing and I'm unsure of how and why its doing what it is doing

lowrodderchev 09-03-2014 06:40 PM

Re: Project "Schrum" 1959 Gmc 100
 
Dumb question but your vacuum advance is tighten down to

SCHRUMGMC 09-03-2014 06:52 PM

Re: Project "Schrum" 1959 Gmc 100
 
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Huh? I haven't messed with the Vacuum advance

_Ogre 09-03-2014 07:43 PM

Re: Project "Schrum" 1959 Gmc 100
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SCHRUMGMC (Post 6827794)
The Transmission cover came out of a V8 so it won't fit the I6 area it is different.

trans cover is the same for v8 or i6 in chevy, gmc is probably the same
some have the 4 speed hole in them
gas pedal pivot goes thru the fire wall

if your distributor is flopping around, fix it
as lowrodder mention: the vac advance should be firmly attached to the distributor
also make sure the clamp is holding the distributor to the block

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...1&d=1329273855

SCHRUMGMC 09-03-2014 07:59 PM

Re: Project "Schrum" 1959 Gmc 100
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by _Ogre (Post 6829067)
trans cover is the same for v8 or i6 in chevy, gmc is probably the same
some have the 4 speed hole in them
gas pedal pivot goes thru the fire wall

if your distributor is flopping around, fix it
as lowrodder mention: the vac advance should be firmly attached to the distributor
also make sure the clamp is holding the distributor to the block

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...1&d=1329273855

If its the same then mine doesn't line up the holes correctly. On one side it doesn't lay flat and there is no place to put the Gas pedal on the transmission cover. Could it be the Distributor is bad, because I haven't loosened it up and its tight as it can get

lynx5653 09-03-2014 08:37 PM

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Take it to a mechanic


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