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First c10 04-24-2015 11:50 PM

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Ok so I connected the brake lines up front. I haven't secured it yet. But what do you guys think will it be ok?

First c10 04-24-2015 11:51 PM

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Here's another front crossmember brake line routing.

First c10 04-24-2015 11:53 PM

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I also started getting the tank mocked up. Man that looks big!!!

First c10 04-24-2015 11:54 PM

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Front of the tank mount

First c10 04-24-2015 11:54 PM

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This has me worried. Looks awfully high!!!

First c10 04-25-2015 12:12 AM

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Another angle.
I still have an issue with the front away bar. Not sure if it is bent or not. I think I am going to pull it and see if it is bent from the donor burb. If it's not I will have to see if the axle is square. I checked it once and it was good. The joy of building a custom truck!!!

First c10 04-25-2015 12:24 AM

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I kind of feel like I am jumping around on different parts of this build. But I can't get the brake lines in until I put the tank in because the rear crossmember for the tank is in front of the stock brake line bracket. So I had to use the donor burb brake line bracket. So I had my son it cut off the burb frame. I can't put the e brake cables in the stock spot because of the tank since I have put rear disc I am just going to go with a custom set of ebrake cables from www.controlcables.com. I talked to Ed and he said a custom set would run down the driver side outside the frame rail. It would be around 150$ What do you guys think of that idea???

First c10 04-26-2015 01:36 AM

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Finally got enough loose end completed to get the wheels and tires on. Wow it looks high. I hope it settles a little.

First c10 04-26-2015 01:52 AM

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Wow I never noticed how wide the front axle was compared to the rear axle.
Can anyone tell me the part number for there rear lift shocks with 4" lift?. The tuff country's I have I think are wrong becuase I had to collapse the shock to within 2 inches of fully collapsed length to install them. So after the suspension settles and truck is loaded up I will have no compression in the shock remaining. I am hoping tuff country just sent the wrong shock...maybe a 6-8" lift shock. Fronts fit great.

swamp rat 04-26-2015 03:04 AM

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I cant give you a part number of perfect length shocks but if there 2" to collapsed then the body is too long, wait until you put the full weight of the cab, bed and engine ect, the springs will settle a bit, now put a load in the back..

Even the shocks i got with my BDS 4" kit were too long, calls to them had them telling me that they use the same shocks for 4", 6" and 8" lift kits.....Really??, i made them take the rears back and i searched what they offered and found a shorter set, i still think the fronts and rears are too long but for now they are liveable at about 4" compression. I think maybe the other lift company's may do the same thing as a cost saving thing? I have pic's in my build of my dilema. One thing tho is Gas charged shocks like mine are a pretty solid ride, if i did it over i'd opt for some Bilstines or other hydraulic shocks for a smoother ride

What i would suggest is to measure the distance from one mount to the other while the frame is jacked up and the full weight of the wheels and axle are hanging below (fully extended) then measure the distance on the ground with the bed cab and body on it (static) figure you need about 5" of travel.

Ya need to find shocks that exceed fully extended by about 1" maybe 2" at most, that will give the shock the shortest body possible and the most compression distance.

First c10 04-26-2015 01:18 PM

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Thanks for the info swamp rat.
I looked through the tuff country site and when it comes to our trucks there is a note at the bottom of the page that reads." For 69-72 rears of 4" or more 61301 shocks are to be used". But 61261 are used for 0" to 4" on other trucks. Actually the application for the 61261 reads from 69-98. So I have concluded exactly what you have found measure your own set up and order the shocks accordingly. I am not saying you can't get lucky but best to know this information before you order your lift. I will call tomorrow and get them to exchange them.
If you notice on my above picture the 1 rear shock I put on the shock boot is compressed. The fronts are good. I only compressed the front about 2-1/2"-3" so after the weight of the truck is set the fronts should be in the middle if it's stroke. Joy of a custom truck.
Speaking of that what do you guys think about changing the way the e-brake cable is run? I would like to run them to the driver side outside the frame rail like the newer trucks.

mjensen 04-26-2015 03:21 PM

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The truck is looking great!!!

First c10 04-26-2015 11:02 PM

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The truck is looking great!!!

Thank you! Can't imagine how many hours are in it. Man they can eat up a lot of time but they are addicting.
I worked on securing the brake line and got the motor mounts bolted up to the motor and chassis.
The AC bracket was hitting so I clearanced it. I am hot sure of the compressor will work in the original truck location but thought I would try.

http://diy4x.com/product.php?product...cat=252&page=1

is the updated link to the 73-87 LS engine mounts since I used the crossmember from a 91 burb

First c10 04-26-2015 11:03 PM

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This is what I had to cut off the AC compressor mount

First c10 04-26-2015 11:05 PM

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This is what it looks like with the brackets installed. I just needed a little help to install motor. Maybe tomorrow.

First c10 04-26-2015 11:07 PM

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This will have to wait till tomorrow.

7dee2 04-27-2015 09:30 AM

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Wow, you guys are flying on this! Good job!

First c10 04-27-2015 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 7dee2 (Post 7150211)
Wow, you guys are flying on this! Good job!

Thanks!!!
I am trying to get as much done as possible because I coach High School football. Once practice starts I wont have much time to work on it.

I did call Tuff Country about my shocks, they gave me the lengths compressed and extended. What a big gap between 0" and the 3" rear shock lengths.

Shock --------------Lift-------------Compressed-----------Extended
TC 61301 (rear)....4-6"...................17".......................29.5"
TC 61261...."........3"......................16"......................26.5"
TC 69105...."........0"......................13.5"...................22.5"
TC 61231 (front)....4-6"...................13.5"..................2.5"

My truck is currently about 19.5" eye to eye. I have not measured it hanging from the frame. I will try to do it, but I want to try and get the motor/trans in tonight.

Can someone measure there frame? ground to top of front frame rail and ground to top of rear frame rail without the engine and body on it? I am just wondering the height difference.

0311Chevy8152 04-28-2015 01:46 AM

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Wanted to say hello. I'm about to start tearing down my 72 4x4 LWB. This is going to be my first time and I appreciate what your posting. I haven't looked to see where in California you are but I am just above Sacramento. I look forward to watching your progress. Nathan

First c10 04-28-2015 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 0311Chevy8152 (Post 7151441)
Wanted to say hello. I'm about to start tearing down my 72 4x4 LWB. This is going to be my first time and I appreciate what your posting. I haven't looked to see where in California you are but I am just above Sacramento. I look forward to watching your progress. Nathan

Hey Nathan welcome to the site. This site is the best. Thanks forget he kind words. You will find so many before me that have done them to study. If you can? start a build thread and post pictures everyone loves pictures.

I am south or you on Interstate 5 about 100 miles south of Sacramento.

The mechanical and welding or fabricating part is easy for me the body work and paint not so much.

DWilbur 04-28-2015 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by First c10 (Post 7150551)
Thanks!!!
I am trying to get as much done as possible because I coach High School football. Once practice starts I wont have much time to work on it.

I did call Tuff Country about my shocks, they gave me the lengths compressed and extended. What a big gap between 0" and the 3" rear shock lengths.

Shock --------------Lift-------------Compressed-----------Extended
TC 61301 (rear)....4-6"...................17".......................29.5"
TC 61261...."........3"......................16"......................26.5"
TC 69105...."........0"......................13.5"...................22.5"
TC 61231 (front)....4-6"...................13.5"..................2.5"

My truck is currently about 19.5" eye to eye. I have not measured it hanging from the frame. I will try to do it, but I want to try and get the motor/trans in tonight.

Can someone measure there frame? ground to top of front frame rail and ground to top of rear frame rail without the engine and body on it? I am just wondering the height difference.

Your 1/2 ton wont be the same as my 3/4 ton with 1 ton running gear. I only noticed about 1/2" lower with the engine, trans and T-case installed. I have 6" lift on my truck with some junk wheels on it to keep it lower to the ground while I work on it. I have 36" tires to put on once the cab is back on. I'm at work now I can measure Wednesday for you.

First c10 04-28-2015 06:20 PM

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Your 1/2 ton wont be the same as my 3/4 ton with 1 ton running gear. I only noticed about 1/2" lower with the engine, trans and T-case installed. I have 6" lift on my truck with some junk wheels on it to keep it lower to the ground while I work on it. I have 36" tires to put on once the cab is back on. I'm at work now I can measure Wednesday for you.

ok thanks
I was curious of the front to back height measurement... I am looking for the differential front to back. If the front is higher or lower than the rear etc. The 1/2" of drop after the motor was installed is great. I am hoping to try and get my motor in tonight.

Also I think I am going to wait on the shocks till the truck is almost completed before I exchange them. I am pretty sure that I will exchange them for 61261. if the rear settles 1' I will be in the middle of the stroke.

David have you measured the wheel base after installing the ORD flip kit? after looking at my bump stop brackets I would say that my rear axle is forward too much. I am going to measure tonight!

0311Chevy8152 04-28-2015 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by First c10 (Post 7151446)
Hey Nathan welcome to the site. This site is the best. Thanks forget he kind words. You will find so many before me that have done them to study. If you can? start a build thread and post pictures everyone loves pictures.

I am south or you on Interstate 5 about 100 miles south of Sacramento.

The mechanical and welding or fabricating part is easy for me the body work and paint not so much.

Hopefully this link will lead you to my thread. Maybe not but at least I tried.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...0&goto=newpost

DWilbur 04-28-2015 09:03 PM

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ok thanks
I was curious of the front to back height measurement... I am looking for the differential front to back. If the front is higher or lower than the rear etc. The 1/2" of drop after the motor was installed is great. I am hoping to try and get my motor in tonight.

Also I think I am going to wait on the shocks till the truck is almost completed before I exchange them. I am pretty sure that I will exchange them for 61261. if the rear settles 1' I will be in the middle of the stroke.

David have you measured the wheel base after installing the ORD flip kit? after looking at my bump stop brackets I would say that my rear axle is forward too much. I am going to measure tonight!

the bump stops on my rear axel line up after installing the flip kit.

First c10 04-29-2015 12:16 AM

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the bump stops on my rear axel line up after installing the flip kit.

Well I am not that lucky. Did you use stock springs with a 6" flip kit?
This is picture took tonight.

First c10 04-29-2015 12:31 AM

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Well started to get the the engine in. Wow. Everyone makes it look easy. I can't seem to be positive it is aligned correctly.... Does the engine and trans sit centered of the frame rails?or does it site to the drive side a little to account for the transfer case? I got it to about 1/4" in 24". What is the tilt from the engine to the trans? I just want to make sure before I drill the pedestal's. If anyone can help I would appreciate it.
Oh and I have about 13" from center of core support mounts to the front edge of the crank pulley. How does that sound?

First c10 04-29-2015 12:32 AM

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Another chassis and engine picture.

First c10 04-29-2015 12:33 AM

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And another.

First c10 04-29-2015 12:35 AM

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Here is a picture of the driver engine mount.

DWilbur 04-29-2015 12:51 AM

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how does your placement match to the dimension I gave you. I fit mine with the cab on.

DWilbur 04-29-2015 12:53 AM

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Well I am not that lucky. Did you use stock springs with a 6" flip kit?
This is picture took tonight.

I bought new stock springs for 1971 3/4" truck with the flip kit.

'68 Newtricks 04-29-2015 12:56 AM

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I'll bet when your axle moves up, it will line up. You haven't messed with the perch pin placement. Measure in a straight line :)

First c10 04-29-2015 01:16 AM

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how does your placement match to the dimension I gave you. I fit mine with the cab on.

Glad you asked. You gave me a measurement of 18-1/8" from front of engine. You said " engine block under water pump " under the water pump are a few different areas so I am not quite sure if I am right. I have to be close but before I drill the mounts I need to know for sure. Hey I wonder. If I could measure my sons c10 to the radiator support should be the same right???

First c10 04-29-2015 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by '68 Newtricks (Post 7152717)
I'll bet when your axle moves up, it will line up. You haven't messed with the perch pin placement. Measure in a straight line :)

I will try it. The reason I even looked at it was becuase my shocks were to long and was wondering if it was the rear end closer to the shock mount.

DWilbur 04-29-2015 03:11 PM

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Glad you asked. You gave me a measurement of 18-1/8" from front of engine. You said " engine block under water pump " under the water pump are a few different areas so I am not quite sure if I am right. I have to be close but before I drill the mounts I need to know for sure. Hey I wonder. If I could measure my sons c10 to the radiator support should be the same right???

Should be the same. On my engine below the water pump is a flat spot front of block that I measured from.
I checked my frame height off the floor and 33-5/8" from top of frame to ground front and back. The tires are 29-1/2" tall. 6" lift front springs. stock springs with shackle flip kit.

First c10 04-29-2015 03:15 PM

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Hey guys do you mind doing me a favor and looking at your frames and comparing to my picture.... I feel I maybe too close to the cab?

First c10 04-29-2015 03:24 PM

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David I measured from here.

First c10 04-29-2015 03:28 PM

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To here.
The frame height from ground to top of Frame is 33" front and 35-1/2" rear. But doesn't look like it has a rake
On 33" tires.

DWilbur 04-29-2015 05:25 PM

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I measured up a little higher and to the right the flat area of the block.

First c10 04-29-2015 05:39 PM

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I measured up a little higher and to the right the flat area of the block.

The front of the timing cover? Above the crank pulley?


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