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Glad that they work for you! If you've sent out free parts, you just paid back a little.

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Hammer and chisel to start hole, then tin snips. After neck was off tank, blow torch and 7/16" wrench. Hold neck horizonal and let gravity help by flowing old solder away. Repop tank has smaller locating/mounting bolts, so well see how that works out

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Ordered my injectors from fast today, 36 lb@58 psi=331.00. Still working on my order for fuel line 3/8" wall thickness. 035, 90/10 copper nickel

Went to offer up fuel tank and ran into a problem, if i put into stock location, interferance with second to last cross sill, could fix it by sectioning in a piece of flat stock in the middle for about a foot and a half....alot of work!

Second option, body lift of about 1 1/2", alot of work and money!

Third option, relocate tank forward about 1 1/2", required to drill 6 holes, and maybe buy a new fuel filler hose. I think i will opt for 3, but everytime i think of drilling large holes, tom vogel comes to mind with a broken wrist. So, when i use my 3/4" chuck drill ill use the handle adapter and hope i can control the torque...if not the build will halt for awhile, and i will utter several curse words. Man that has got to be painful!

Cant think of any options short of renting a magnetic base drill

Recieved the fuel pump connecter from vette works out in washington state. Only need two leads 12v, and ground, other two will be deleted, they are for the sending unit, and i am using the oem sending unit that came with the tank
Gotta take the connecter apart, and check what pins they use, i want to get rid of any splices

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Hey Jim a lot of nice machine work just on that ring alone...if I may ask the dumb question whats the problem with the tank install? fuel supply and return lines, ..Also this is going to be a pressure system will an original filler neck seal enough.? Ed.

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Thanks for the comps., probably my fav. part of the build is working with aluminum. It was done with a bandsaw and drill press

The whole problem with the install is that the pump can only mount in one flat spot on the tank, so all changes have to be made to accomadate that location. The actual lines seem to be the easy part, i can rotate the pump just about 360 degrees, just not aimed at the cross sills

The pump shouldnt build pressure in the tank, as it has a vent system right between the supply and return line fittings. So, there shouldnt be any pressure at the fill cap.

Hope i answered your question. I dont believe there are any dumb questions on this board, if you dont know the answer, then you have to ask the question.....

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I am sure You will come up with a good compromise, I put a poly tank in 15 yrs ago, it was loose side to side and I didn't like the way it fit. I added a 1/4" angle 3 x 3 x 8 on both sides and 1/4 rubber mat to cushion it. This moves the tank down 1/2" and gives a little clearance. Short stubby fuel fill on tank got a longer hose. Might be another option to consider.

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I am open to all options at this point:smoke:, thanks for the info. I believe that is the purpose of the parts Dale gave me, keeps the tank from shifting side to side. Also ordered the rubber pad matrl. from mcmaster-carr. I mght use the thickness of the rubber pad as a way to drop the tank lower....well see, depending on where the fill tube ends up

I think the proper way to tackle this problem is going to be modiying the the second to last cross sill, so, i hope one of our arizona boys have a bed they want to chop up. Doesnt seem that the sill is in repop, i think it is blazer/jimmy specific

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Got a couple minutes to work on the retaining ring, now i can just use a transfer punch to referance my holes for the nutserts in the tank. Probably using 6 to mount it up

Still working on the fuel injectors, seems they are more costly then originally planned. Sent the original injectors back to fast

Not sure of these quick connects, reading some bad things

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Jim
Make sure if you are drilling the holes for nutserts you use the knurled type. If you use the smooth type on anything other than a punched hole they will eventually slip and make it so you cant get the bolt back out. Ask me how I know LOL. McMaster has both kinds.

Richard

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Thanks for the heads up Richard, nice to have guys covering your back. Didnt know that, will have to check out mcmaster-carr. I did know that they are to be used on a specific sheet metal thichness

Just ordered my 90/10 fuel line, and 1/4" brake line

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Just looked in mcmaster-carr, and cant find the knurled body

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If you have book 119 it is page 3270 or go to there website McMaster.com and type "heavy duty rivet nuts" it will bring you to next screen that has option for heavy duty rivet nuts. from there you can choose what type (open /closed and metric / SAE)

Richard

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Thanks for your time, will check it out....dont know if my catalog is still around, just found it....113

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Ok, found the twist resistant net sert...90720A450. Gotta check out the tool they recommend for installation

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Jim,
If its not something you are going to use all the time I have a gun you can borrow.

Richard

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Richard, thanks for the offer. Let me see how much that tool costs, if its reasonable, ill buy it. Plus it will tell me how much i owe you, in case it breaks on me...

Having a hard time downloading that part number....

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If I recall it is around $100 for a decent gun that wont break after 4 or 5 pulls. I can also send ya some gripcerts and the 25/64 bit if its just gonna be a one time thing for you. Just let me know if I can help. I will have to check but I think it will all fit in a flat rate box so it would just cost ya 6 bucks to send it back when your done. This is my manual gun that I dont use anymore. Just keep it for backup in case my high lever gun breaks, so its no rush sending back.

Richard

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Jim,
I have had the best luck with the 95105A143 nutserts. They look like this. I also checked the gun size and it will not fit in small flat rate by about an inch. UPS ground appears to be about 10 bucks each way.

Richard

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Richard, im going to take you up on your offer....thank you very much. Ill pm you my home addy and ill place an order for the cert you advised.....

Do you have a paypal account?

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Richard, this the device i was using, simple, i know....

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Actually back when I did bodywork for a living we would use gripserts occasionally for door mirrors. Dad never would buy a tool for setting them. We always used a long threaded rod with multiple nuts and wrenches to tighten them until they collapsed properly. Crude but it worked.

Richard

Supplies are waiting to go out UPS now so you should have them tomorrow.

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This is the gun I am sending you.:sexy:

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Thanks Bud, ill take your advise and do a pratice run....never used that style before

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Richard, got the installation tool today, plus the new drill bit...youre the man, actions like that make this board work.

Thank you very much, whats your paypal addy....

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Don't worry about it. Just make sure it works for ya. Glad someone is working on theirs. I have been in limbo since my car accident back in Nov.

Richard

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Got the first one installed, seems to be a little loose, guess i have to play with the stops

Yep, tightened up the bottom collar, pulled the rivnut much tighter

Having the right tool for the job, always makes the outcome of the work better

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If it bottoms out before it is fully tight turn the wheel on the back of the head clockwise while the gun is released but still inserted in the gripsert. Squeeze the handle again until you get it tight enough. It is hard to apply enough pressure to break the mandrel but it is possible to break it so you just have to find that happy medium. The madrels are replaceable so no big deal if you should snap one. LOL

Just make sure not to leave that 1st one loose. U can screw the gun back in and go again.

Richard

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Jim, its lookin' great. Can't wait to see/hear a vid of it at idle. Nice work my friend.

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Thanks for the tip, 5 more to install

Thanks J, been a long road, as you well understand...those 17s look great on there, nice addition to a already great looking truck. Glad to see you enjoying your build

A video may be outside the reach of my technology, but we shall see.....

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Success...only one hole needs to be tweaked alittle, but that is what happens when you rush and dont check every hole

Thought the black oxide ss would look sexier...lol shame noone will ever see it, except for yous guys
Got the bolts from mcmaster-carr, its like having a well stocked hardware store on your front porch

Thanks Richard, please pm me your addy....does this count as "members i have met"

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Looking good Jim. No paypal needed.... Just send gun back when ur finished.

I feel pretty sure we will meet at some point. I need to get back up and see Dusty's and John's rigs as well. They will be wrapping up soon and driving as well.

Richard

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Ok, finished up the retaining ring, now i can go back and finish the mods on the two remaining ss support rods, and wire up the fuel pump....plus vacuum out the tank of all my machining debris. Pulling the ring down presents a problem since they dont seat tight on the tank. I plan to use lock washers and a thread sealant, and hope it seals tight, if not, ill have to buy new bolts and safety wire it in place. Another option i have is to build spacers between the tank and ring, then i could pull the ring down tight.

Then i can offer up the tank to the body, still thinking of moving the tank forward two inches to clear the rear body mount, dont want to fool with taking the stubby neck off and replacing it with the oem neck, unless im forced to....to be determined!

Sandemonium posted up a 1 1/2" 90 degree fuel hose(gates 24715) which napa has a superceded number for. Ill order the hose on mon. and see how this works out with fitting up the tank

Still have build a tool to install the retaining ring on the fuel sending unit...

Thanks Richard for making this step as painless as possible

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Did mine a little differant, used a 45 degree 1 1/2" hose(napa 1031) , cut about 4" off the hose,and cut about 1" off the stubby neck of the gas tank. Broght the hose out just in front of the body mount. Then went over to my local muffler shop, he had a piece of ss 1 1/2" , perfect, gave him a template of the bend i needed(about 20-25 degrees). Ended up real close to the fill pipe, just used the straight piece of hose i cut off the 45, and it gave it enough wiggle room

Dont forget i moved my tank forward about 2"....

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Sheesh, 2 pages on this gas tank, now i have to work on the straps

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Received my 90/10 copper nickle tubing today, the company wanted to hold off posting this info. until we could show that shipping this matrl. was viable. Normally, they ship in 8' cardboard tubes, but i wanted the 1/4" (brake lines) coiled and shipped. They had never coiled before, and i had to sign a release for damage that might happen in coiling and shipping. Coil arrived sandwiched between cardboard and 1/4" plywood, banded with steele straps.....no way was UPS going to damage this product coming across the great USofA

Tubing for my gas lines is 3/8", and shipped in straight 8' tubes(UPS regulations), thats where the problem lies. In pa., we cant use splices in our brake lines. So, they coiled a 20' piece, and that should be enough for my back brake lines

I may contact in line tube to see if they will sell me the coiled spring cover they use, may want to shield tubing from flying rocks outside of frame rails....well see

If you have any questions about using this matrl. in an automotive application, you can contact cda.copper.org, they answered my questions quickly by email. They assured me that alcohol will not corrode the nickle/copper in my fuel lines


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Been using the nicop from napa for a few years now on different projects. I love it bends easy and flares awesome which is super nice for double flares.
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Thanks bud for the info., looking forward to using this matrl., never had much luck with stainless. Didnt know that napa carried it, but will check them out in the future

Ill try a test flare today, i have to buy some barrel nuts and adapters to see how it works with a 45 degree an fitting. Dont have a 33 degree flaring tool, but have read that -6 and -8 are ok with a 45 flare

Hows your build going, ill have to drop down and check it out, dont have alot of time to surf the web and keep in touch with all the builds i would like to follow

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Got more fittings and russell pro hose in...( thanks JJK for the product info), found out that jegs fittings are about a 1/3 the price of russell. Putting the hose end on requires the use of grease on the threads

Have to build a bracket to support the hoses coming around the power steering

These are the clamps and some of the fittings im using....i just realized why they are a 1/3 the price,damn

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Looking good. Happy Birthday

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Thanks Richard, the word got out, 63 today! Getting to ship that tool back, ty

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Great work and HAPPY BIRTHAY. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...ps93ae87ad.gif