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After a couple day soak, parts are ready for reassembly....both ends of the repop strap are bent to a 90 degree angle. The end that will accept the J hook has to be bent back and flattened to add a 1/2" of length

Is every rivet that GM uses got to be a PITA to get out?

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Gotta get the proper hardware, maybe even the correct rivets

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I had the same issue with the repop straps, what a PITA to do the install of my new tank. I'm not a welder so I had a shop cut the old filler neck and tack it onto my new one. The best was when I used a 5 gallon gas tank to fill it up to run it around the block all the gas came spitting out at me b/c my brainiac self never unplugged the vent line.:lol:

Been reading this thread as a reference, thanks so much for writing it all down!

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Thanks for the 'heads up' on the fuel vent line, also
thanks for reading, glad i could be of assistance, this tank has been a rather long winded affair, but once the straps are done i could be out of the woods and back onto the fuel lines.....where this whole part started.

Wierd, but i called a company today to buy rivets, and no one was home....never had that happen before

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Yea I find it odd when I have to work hard to give a company my money!

Mine started with the lines as well, then it turned into the tank, straps, pump, carb, springs, new distributor. alternator.....haha!

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Well, their phone lines were down yesterday, so i used their on-line store. Rivets coming in the mail, if anyone needs 4....

Funny how these builds progress, starts out as a simple fix, then turns into 'might as well'

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Got the rivets in the mail today, in the search for a bucking bar, maybe Matco. The head is alittle large, but it is a 7/32" shank

Just found the 7/32" rivet set tool, it was on a surplus aviation mechanics tool site. Cool site for all kinds of unusual tools....the store was called the yard

This set is for a AN470, which is a universal set, about the same as ours

Pretty amazing place, this thing called WWW. totally unlike the olden days with catalogs, i think you could find anything.....

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Might I ask the name of the supplier for those rivets?

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Sure Cap.....i dont know how to do links, so ill spell it out

Jay Cee Sales & Rivet, Inc
32861 Chesley Drive
Farmington, Mi
48336
248-478-2150

They have have a on line store for small orders, which i used

If you just need a few, ill send them to ya. They were $7.00 for a box of a hundred. They only have 1/2" lenght rite now, so, you might have to cut them down, or add a washer

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Real easy, left click the mouse and drag it across the address bar at the top of the screen to highlight it in blue, release the button then press the right button again, click on copy with the left button, then go to a post reply and hit the right button again and click paste.

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great work and nice truck

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Yeah but,....i work off a tablet, thanks for the attempt to educate me

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Thanks for watching nasty

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Humm, the only tablet i know how to use requires a sharpened pencil.. :lol:

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Good one.....just makes it easier to post up from the workshop, or work.

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I have heard of them but I have never looked into just what all they carry. Thanks for the info and the offer, but I don't have an immediate need for rivets. Just for future needs :)

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Tablet?

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I use a table.

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You guys crack me up, what a bunch of imaginative writers we have around here.....

Im sure im not using this device to its fullest capabilities, but i get by:smoke:

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Lol!

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Got a couple minutes to go back and work on my fuel lines while i wait for some tools and parts to come in....SS axle brake lines, and extended braided T hose. Also, just ordered from Jegs is my MSD noise filter ( 8830 )....EMI be damned

In the first pic, they seem to be rubbing the two rivets, may have to build a standoff, as i dont know the long term effect of this condition.....or grind a notch in the rivet head

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Got a couple hours to continue on my fuel lines. This copper/nickle flares very easily, unless you put your barrel nut on backwards ( dah), you wont have to flare it twice. I used a single flare, as i havnt heard any need for a double flare on fuel injection. Also, i flared to 45 degrees, since i read -6 and -8 are unversal sizes and dont require a 37 degree flare. Dont ask me why.....but,if i have any leaks ill know why

The last double clamp has to be moved closer to the top of the frame, some clearance problems at shock mount on the lower fuel line

Now, its on to the flexible hose from russel, have to build a transition clamp from vertical to horizonal

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OK, this morning i finally got the gas tank mounted up in the factory location....ended up making 5/16" shims to put on top of the oem location spacers ( keeps tank from shifting side to side ). Also, took off a black electrical box on the fuel pump, dont know what it was for, but im guessing some sort of vent.
Sheesh, am i glad that problem is solved. Tons of trial and error went into that project, thought i had failed many times, but persistance paid off. If that project didnt work, it would have put my whole fuel injection system swap at risk, plus the 400.00 investment for tank and pump

If i had only known the the placement of the pump was so critical, i wouldve, couldve moved the pump forward a inch for clearance. Oh well, everyone has 20/20 hindsight

Now, with that problem solved, i can move onto my fuel lines

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Looking good. Just keep plugging away and you'll be ready to fire it up soon.

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Your fuel lines are going to look 100x better then mine.

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Can't argue progress...looking good. What did you decide to do with the fuel lines contacting the rivets?

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Thanks guys for checking in....

Ill not lie to you, and say that i was not very concerned about this system not working, im really a stock kinda guy. This is my first attempt at modification, and i would look like a total idiot in front of my peers and mentors if i didnt pull it off. Abit nerve racking having 60,00 gearheads looking over your shoulder at all times. Plus the fact that i would have thrown away $4,000.00, which would have made the CFO unhappy....gotta love her for keeping me in check lol

Ive decided to make the 5/16" shim and anti-shift device (for lack of a better term) as one, ordered the 3/4" stock from McMaster Carr. Gotta luv having a well stocked hardware store at your disposal...

Tully, i think it would be better to build a standoff, rather then mess with the structual integrity of the rivet. These 4 rivets support the front of the spring hanger, and i wouldnt want to be driving down the road and have that system fail. Could get ugly real quick...

Dale, i went with 'form over function', nothing wrong with 'function over form' Glad youre making progress on that wiring harness. Youre a braver man then me, tackling that harness. No more carbs!

HGS, your truck looks cool blasting thru the snow, plus that one pic show cases all the work you put into your hood, great job. Enjoy driving it on those starry nights. Wait, wasnt that a song...Starry, Starry nights, give it a minute, and the melody will come

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3/4" stock came in today, so i thought id play around with the radii required to fit up to the tank. Drew a couple referance lines (.200 ) down the top and sides, and used the old lead file to shape it. Just use a file brush to keep the teeth clean, and there will not be any gouging

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I love that antique Vixen file mount, wish i had one too. :)

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Thanks HGS! now that tune is stuck in my head:lol:

Dang swamprat, never new that tool had a name, one of my favorite tools for soft metals

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Vixen files cant be beat for large block aluminum removal!

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How's the progress? Hope you had a good turkey day!

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Not much, tis the season,and my mind is on the wifies present(dangly earrings $)

But, i did get the tank fitted to the frame,but 5/16" drop really messes with the filler neck

Got the ss brake lines from in line tube, and the pass. side is 3/4" too long. Also, put new SS washer head bolts in my wheel cylinders (totally stainless) has the correct bolt head size, i went oversize....
First time i used the master series coating, really nice stuff.

This filler neck is giving me fits, may have to relocate, or ideas?

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I was able to use my old filler neck and had it welded on the new tank with minimal install issues. I used marine hardwall fuel hose to complete the job.

http://www.overtons.com/modperl/prod...ID=1006&r=view

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Found 1 3/8", filler neck supply, sells it by the inch, but ive cut my oem filler neck within an inch of its life. Sooooo, i may have to start over, after i source a new neck on the classifieds....stay tuned for this saga, fustrated to say the least

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Thanks tully for taking the time for your response, but at this time, i think ill just move on to the next part of the build, ie fuel lines. Put the filler neck behind me, to save my sanity.

Ive got plenty to do in other areas, and just tired of focusing my attention on my tank:waah:

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I might have a filler neck in my parts stash. I can dig around and let you know if you still need one.

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I hear ya on the tank, no sense in getting too frustrated. The truck is coming out awesome, I've been using this thread as a reference so thanks for all the help!

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Thanks HGS for your very generous offer, the one i need comes off the tank, ill let you you know if it gets to that....really enjoyed watching you play in the snow, i guess faux snow is out of the question on my truck, lol.....dont wanna lose my man card

Tully, glad to hear my thread is being used as intended, lots of pics. for referance

Three major problems that have yet to be worked out
1) twin lever lokar emergancy brake - custom cables $
2) twin stick np 205 - turp is helping
3) fuel neck filler tank

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Hey Jim ... I am not going to use the the filler neck that I bought from Thealien Let me know if you need it.... Edward