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Really? I would have thought any of the modern ECUs would support a 58x trigger and COP even more so than a distributor I would have thought.

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Well then, with that said, let me call the manufactor and check. They should know......

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Im bummed my new wheel isnt working out.....

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Yea, I looked it up, you have an XFI-2.0? You should be fine, should be able to do any distributorless ignition you can think of. Even if you have no triggers, you could run a crank trigger and wasted spark, where the plug fires on every rotation...a common way to do it on early engines, works fine. I looked at all these aftermarket ECUs and I didn't think there was one that needed a distributor.

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Wow, great news, you are the man.....

I have a XFI 2.0 with a dual sync distri. and a crank trigger.....So, does that mean i get rid of my MSD 6 AL box?

OK, back on track. This board is full of info.

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You'll probably need to check with FAST on the specifics of the coils you plan to use. The ones for my engine can be driven directly by most aftermarket ECUs. Mine have a +12V lead, a ground lead and a low voltage trigger. Mine are fairly specific to my crazy engine being, for lack of a better way of describing it, kind of like a Hemi where the plug is down in a hole in the valve cover, but I know there are small block versions of these coils. You may need a different flywheel trigger or FAST may actually be able to simply use what you have, I don't really know the specifics, but I wouldn't think you would need anything from your distributor system at all.

The advantage to using trigger driven descrete coils through the ECU is that even in wasted spark mode, the coils are only released 1/4th as often (1/8th as often if driven along with a cam trigger) and there is no sort of mechanical or vacuum advance required, the ECU handles the advance electronically. If you have an ECU that also can handle ping sensors it can vary the spark to discourage pinging and can often provide the same performance to the engine on lesser octane fuel. Between variable valve timing and more advanced spark control this is a major contributor to these crazy horsepower numbers new engines are achiveing. When these trucks were built a 500+ hp engine in less than a 6 liter small block would have required a fairly undrivable lopey cam, solid or roller lifters, and at least 10+:1 compression. Now it's a fairly common factory option. There are non-boosted 4 cylinders putting out more HP than our trucks were available with stock now.

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Skorpio, thank you for giving my problem your time and attention. Posted up on the FAST XFI forum, and asked the leading tuner this very question, waiting for someone to get back to me. Hope it will work out as you suggest....ill let you know the outcome either way.

Sent my injectors off to be rebuilt and tested, getting close to all the final pieces......200.00

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Picked up the right adapter for the vacuum side, ORB(o ring boss) to NPT.....

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20140319_121108 by james_jaros, on Flickr

Also, talked to Wheels Vintiques, seems our wheels are lug centric, so he says i will not have any worries using these wheels off road, if i use the correct conical acorn nuts. Not sure if i want to cover up these wheels with SS rings and caps. Powder coat looks great the way it is. Also, i read somewhere you should remove PC from the surface where the lug meets wheel.

Wanted to put 10" wide wheels on the back, but it will have to wait. Wheel house has to be tubbed, and bed has to be narrowed.....so, to keep moving forward on this project, ill put this mod. off for a rainy day

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20140314_135103 by james_jaros, on Flickr

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Spent some time on the plenum and runners....pressed, sorta (the ol' 2 pound sledge and socket extension method). Plus, a little black RTV.

Installed vacuum port adapter, and connecter for vacuum booster on plenum. Should be enough for all my vacuum needs

Finally had a couple bucks to have my OEM injectors reconditioned, installed and wired. Now, just the spark plug wires need to be worked on, and check timing with a degree wheel

Installed block off plates for 9th injector and EGR

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20140404_120127 by james_jaros, on Flickr

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Everything is really looking great Jim.

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Thanks alot, i was just thinking about you.....wierd, just wondering what you were up to

Im onto the timing end of things, just picked up my degree wheel, so now im gettin serious....vrroomm, vrroomm

Ticka,ticka, tocka timing

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I can't wait to see this truck on the road! Nice work :metal:

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Thanks Me too, Tully! I just hope it makes loud motor noises, and not POP! BANG! GRIND! noises. It does have the original bottom end, and im starting to think that now is the time to replace it

Problem is, i dont know if i want a 400, or a 383. Would be cool to have a stroked big, small block. Thats what my Dad had in his......He's always in my thoughts and prayers


BTW, that is a 7/8" freeze plug installed in the intake runner

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Started on final mock up, before bolting up intake (7,9,11 inch/pounds) down. A little fitment problem with the 9th injector block off plate. Was rocking on the intake surface, 1/16th" of filing on the outside edge got it to seat right

Im a stud and flange nut kinda guy, makes assembly easier

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20140422_114629 by james_jaros, on Flickr

Black oxide stud went into a water jacket, so i used a thread sealer, plan to use this location for grounding wire harness

Dont use a black marker to lay out you gasket

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20140422_092703 by james_jaros, on Flickr

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Xxxx

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Looks good :thumbs:

I also prefer studs and flange nuts whenever possible :)

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I try to buy allen drive or torx drive studs, just in case the part wont come off easily. Gotta luv having McMaster-Carr on your front porch with one day delivery.....

Thanks for stopping by Cap.

On a side note.....picked up a tilt column with a busted up shifter bowl pin hole,,now i dont feel to bad for cutting the nub off for the shifter. Sorta turned my tilt into a floor shift column

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Well, i didnt like the cheap plastic convulated split covering on the harness. Found the ashault cloth woven sleeve at maney wire and cable 5/16" about $50.00 for 100', smallest amount they sell. So, if anyone needs some lmk.

Plus fast connected all red wires into one wire connector, so, ill split one wire to feed two, and then take each of those wires and feed two injectors, so i can sleeve it back further towards the connecter

Write down wire locations from connecter

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20140428_134611 by james_jaros, on Flickr

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YA-HOOOOO, FORTY YEARS of marriage to the same women...05-04-74, if you want to know how many times ive been wrong in forty years, just count the diamonds on her body....lots

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Congrats to you and the misses Jim.
Here’s to the next forty. :clap:

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Congrats to both of you. You are obviously doing things right.

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Late congratulations, I hope there aren't too many diamonds...:lol:

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Thanks guys, great of you to check in.....sorry, but yeah, could of bought lots of rusty truck parts if i didnt buy those diamonds.

Working on injection harness, the part number for the FAST male terminal is #170260. Using the delphi tool in the pic will release them from the connecter...

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20140507_115616 by james_jaros, on Flickr

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COP/CNP

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20140511_101912 by james_jaros, on Flickr

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Worked on the injector harness, one side almost done. Much better in my opinion then the split plastic

XIM/with harness is on the way from FAST

OEM CNP brackets are just not working out, have to make something better

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20140514_121524 by james_jaros, on Flickr

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Really looks good Jim. Big improvement over the plastic stuff. I wish I would have considered other options before I covered everything. :dohh:

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Thanks, yeah, it was a no brainer for me, couldnt stand the look of the plastic stuff. But, it is somewhat of a chore to pull the connectors apart to slip on the sheath. I keep telling myself "the end result is worth all the hassle"

Glad to see youre making some progress, that gas tank mod was incredible, wished you would have posted up sooner:smoke:

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Got the XIM and E dash in the mail today, now the fun begins, again.....

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20140520_135439 by james_jaros, on Flickr

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Stuck in electrical prison....

Trying to repin my XIM 30 pin connector, but the sucker wont come out. Its a differant connector then what im used to working with.

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20140607_141002 by james_jaros, on Flickr

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After two fustrating days i finally got the pin out, now just waiting for new ones from FAST

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20140608_100817 by james_jaros, on Flickr

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Did you use a special tool or just what you had?

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Yeah, i used that super thin Delphi 12094429 tool, just kept pressing and pushing on the bottom of the connector. Ill try to take a pic of the tab, but its really small and i dont know if it will turn out.

If A3 is on the bottom of the connector, and you pry down, it should raise the tab on the pin, and allow you to pull the pin forward, or push on wire

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Kinda hard to see, but the tang (T) is located in the dark shadowy area. I think the key is to pull on the wire, and then come in at a steep down angle with the tool to catch the (T) and pry up.....

The (T) im talking about has three horizontal white lines in it on the pic. I dont know if you have a tablet, but if blow up the pic, it becomes obvious where and what this 'T' looks like

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20140609_100637 by james_jaros, on Flickr

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De-latching a pin from a shell usually involves insertion of a release tool (or a pick or a tiny screwdriver) from the opposite side from the wire while you gently pull on the wire. It's not always obvious where to depress the latching tang unless you have a pin out and in your hand already.

(far more difficult to do if there is no wire to pull on)

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Dang it, i mean vertical lines......

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So the wire and connector should pull out thru the wire side of the housing, correct?

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I'm saying "usually" as a generalisation, I would assume so, I've taken apart dozens of different type connectors, and most are either locked in place by a tang on the pin that springs against a step in the shell or if not they are usually held in place by a small wedge in the shell (plastic part) that a fat portion of the pin must be pushed past. For the most part connectors are usually made to be terminated and then inserted into the connector shell and not usually made to have to snake the wire through the shell and then terminate. I've disassembled connectors from Amp, Tyco, Molex, T&B as well as Japanese and European connectors in a wide variety of electronic, vehicle and industrial applications and almost all mass termination descrete wire pin in shell type connectors are one of the 2 types and I'm usually able to get them apart with either an eyeglass size screwdriver or a dental pick (and often those work better than specifically designed extraction tools).

Of these type of connectors, if the retension mechanism is a small wedge in the plastic part they are released from the wire side, if a tang on the pin they are released from the opposite side. These actually look like they are probably the wedge type so they would be released from the wire side.

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Ok, this is as much as i know on the subject.....

Looking at the pins, they have a release tang on the bottom and you can access it through the wire side, and push the pin forward. There is no way that i can see to take the pin back into the connector b/c there are to very little nubs at the top of the pin that keep it from going in the direction of the wire. The End

This is FAST's part number, but you should be able to cross referance it to a delphi part number

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20140619_135952 by james_jaros, on Flickr

You can see the tang hanging down, in this pic. better, that has to be depressed to remove pin
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20140619_131809 by james_jaros, on Flickr

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How's the progress Jim?

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Well, to answer your question....its slow. Im under the wifeys employ for the summer (honey do list) and she has decided the outside of my workshop was a bit ghetto. So, i had to hang siding and trowel stucco to give her the curb appeal she wanted, but it cost her a 1945 erie gas pump

But, i finally decided on the wheels and tires i wanted ( knurley, to coin a phrase i learned on the site) interco truxes m&s radials. Stock size on the front, 10 in. wide on the back with 1 1/2" wheel spacers. Corvette ralleye from wheels vintique, not sure if i will run the center caps and trim rings....might do a poll to see what you guys think

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20140801_124059 by james_jaros, on Flickr

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