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Pump is a nice touch, it's the little victories that count after all.

Tires will look great on the truck, I'm curious to see how your poll turns out.

Any progress is good progress! Enjoy the rest of the summer.

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Yeah, shes a keeper....leaves me alone in the 3 or 4 winter months to play with my truck as much as i like, never even questions how much ive spent....shes the best, dont tell her i said that. haha

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We use to have a similar pump on our Farm in Indiana... wish I would have grabbed it before everything was auctioned off.

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Nice job Jim, Ounce my blazer is ready for the highway I'll bring it up to your place. I also have to run it up to Jay's house too.

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Seems like we all have 20/20 hindsight:lol: nice job on your new mancave, a pump wouldve looked perfect out in front....
Whens the electric get done?

Thanks john...anytime your ready, still have some bugs to work out?

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I remember those pumps. I would get out of the car and wtch those balls spinning around in that glass sight on the side of the pump. Used to fasinate me as a kid.

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As a matter of fact, i just took that glass globe apart, 60 years of varnish in there! Amazingly there is a 2 vaned impellar with a spiral coned spring and a brass rod, thats what hits the balls to rotate them around. I always thought it was just the gas flow, now we can sit back as adults and say we know how the heck it works:lol:

Funny thing is i forgot all about the ding ding sound it made as you were fueling the car, dont know if i will hook that up as it might drive me crazy

Not sure if ill get rid of the patina or not, maybe just rechrome the 'ERIE' and couple of the other accent pieces and reglass it, call it a day. Oh yeah, and rehose it

Thanks for looking

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[QUOTE= I always thought it was just the gas flow, now we can sit back as adults and say we know how the heck it works:lol:
Great. Now youve ruined it for me:lol:

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[quote=Tom Vogel;6787892][QUOTE= I always thought it was just the gas flow, now we can sit back as adults and say we know how the heck it works:lol:
Great. Now youve ruined it for me:lol:[/quote]

Sorry brother......i guess you dont want to know the truth about the tooth fairy then:lol:

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OFF TOPIC TO PROJECT.....but still cool, old school meets new age

Stole an hour off of the wifeys to do list to install forum logl on my advisement glass, not the correct gasket, but will fix it after i visit the glass shop
Choose to ol style logo, because i dont like fake flames

I have a piece of my hardtop glass laying around, so ill have the tinted side glass cut to go into the computer glass

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5596/...65a5f8bd_c.jpg
20140817_122633 by james_jaros, on Flickr

Free advertising Josh!

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Love the pump Jim. Good job. In my humble opinion, that free advertising ought to be worth a year's free board membership, right?

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Isn't the side glass tempered?

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Thanks Rick, i think one would look good outside your shop. Hey, my son just had a new baby boy, we ll be heading up your way over labor day. You gonna be around?

As far as dues go, ill leave that up to Josh!

Skorpio, your point being? I can only guess you cant cut tempered glass....You ve got a tremendous build going on. Way above my head:lol:

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You have to untemper it to cut it and then retemper it, and you run the risk of it shattering in the process..

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Thanks for the info.,didn t know that. So much for tinted computer glass

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It can be done, it's just not as simple as just cutting plate glass, you have to make sure the glass shop is capable of doing it, not all are. The green Blazer glass would probably look great on that pump. I get where you are going with it.

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That s what is great about this board.....people with knowledge, and willing to share it! OK, i ll check with my shop

Can i hire you to do a cad/cam drawing? I want to modify my wheel spacers to incorporate my poverty cap mounts

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:bsf:

You decide, or not!

Here is the story....
Bought my 1 1/2" spacers from a web site (name with held to protect the innocent, the facts mame, just the facts) as said by jack web, on dragnet

I told him that the acorn nuts wobble, and questioned him on the 10.9 metric stamped on the stud. I paid an extra 30.00, to have the studs changed to 7/16-20. He said"all our studs are marked with that, and indicate the hardness".

The problem is, i was raised before the metric system, so i can t question him. Does anyone know if in fact 10.9 converts into a rockwell number for hardness.

His lugnuts that i received also wobble on the studs. I ve been a machinist since hs (50years) and never felt a thread do that

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Metric 10.9 is roughly equivalent to grade 8 SAE hardware.
If it's chinese, then all bets are off......most of that sh!t is junk...bad threads OD and ID

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Perfect! I ll see if i can t source out some quality studs ( as in MADE IN THE USA ) and send them to them

Good info., and thank you

BS flag is lowered, i hate to go into a arguement uninformed, eating crow sucks!

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OK, just spoke to the above unnamed website company, they want to send out another set of studs. I ll wait, but doubt this will help.

My solution will be to buy quality studs and lug nuts, and rebore spacer to fit. I ll have to figure out what the nominal bore size is.....any idea?

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Sorry, missed that, what are you looking to CAD up?

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Thanks, i ve got to build an adapter to go from corvette center cap to gmc poverty cap. My plan is to cut some of the lenght outta the center cap and make a flange to mount my poverty caps to. The center caps are slined in that area, so i can broach them and bore and thread the OD of the adapter to accept set screws to make a positive lock....

Can you draw up a Corvette center cap.....my son won t do any work for me unless i give him a drawing. He s an applications engineer. I don t want to bother him, as they just had my fifth grand child.

I ll send you the part if it will assist you

Nice stuff you got going on with your build

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Gotta any pics? I'm not sure what either of these are.

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Ok, i have to wait till the parts get here. Enjoy the holiday

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OK, final decision......5" wide beauty rings seemed to cover to much of the wheel, so, i bought 1 1/2" ribbed rings from wheels vintique, and center caps from hubcaps. com. The center caps are repop, so i don t feel bad about cutting a hole in them for the lock outs

1 1/2" spacers installed to even out the front and rear wheels....any thoughts on wheel spacers?

Final piece to convert my jimmy to the ultra rare corvette optioned blazer/jimmy....lol

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20140905_074628 by [url=https://www.flickr.com/people/97391199@N06/]

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On my build thread, I posted my spacers and a few post later, where I got them from for someone else.

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So, you have no problems using them?

Sorry to see your truck get smashed, after all you did to the motor....

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Nope, no problems at all. I tightened the lugs to the highest setting on my impact rather then the middle one.

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Ok, i was going to use high strength lock tight on the spacer mounting lug nuts, and check torque often for a while

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For as much money and effort as you have in your truck, I'd seriously consider calling up Moser and asking them how much for a housing and axles. It'd probably run you about $1500 if you use your guts, or about $2500 for a whole new rear end with a new ring and pinion and an Eaton posi. My 9" complete with an aluminum 3rd member and a Wavetrack posi, was $3K. I know that is a whole lot more than spacers but in the end it's exactly what you want it to be and it's brand new and fresh.

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Dag nab it skorpio, i swore to myself that would not tear another system apart, but you make total sense. There is a company in York, Pa., just cant think of their name....

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I'm just sayin' :lol:

For me, I widened the rear by a lot, like 5" due to the fairly extreme offset of the wheels I chose. With Moser it was just clicking check boxes and they just made it, fitted for a C-10, click, done. So my housing is 5" wider (or so, I forget, but 75" tire bulge to tire bulge) then stock, has Ford Torino flange ends to match the custom 'Vette brakes, and C-10 trailing arm bracketry, and all that was "standard stuff" for them. I considered doing it as a 12 bolt, but it was actually stronger and lighter to do it as a 9" and about the same price...mmm actually with the Wavetrack it was cheaper because the 31 spline Wavetrack was on special, like $300 off, it was the best posi and near the cheapest price. I actually called them and went over it on the phone, but in the end I could have just ordered it on the website.

So you know the Wavetracks, both wheels turn whether they are loaded or not. Eaton type posi will not do that, the only other thing that does that is lockers which are noisy and eat tires.

Along the way I had planned on using this shortened tailshaft assembly for the 4L80E that made it the same length and interchangable with a 4L60E, which I thought would be a good idea, anyway the transmission parts place never delivered the actual shaft, just the casting so I returned it. That tailshaft used, or was supposed to use, the same 27 spline output shaft as a 4L60E/TH350, and I ordered a 3450 strap yoke from Moser for it, after I abandoned that plan I needed to exchange it for the 4L80E/TH400 type yolk and Moser did that no questions asked, just charged me shipping. I would not hesitate to buy from them again, everything about buying from them was easy.

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Ca-ching, ca-ching.....wonder how stong a quik change center section is? Winters axle is right around the corner

Thanks for the info.

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Well you couldn't just do a quick change in the back :lol:

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Exactly my thinking......ca-ching, which means high steer change

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...and hell at that point you might as well go 4 wheel independent suspension and inboard brakes, of course then you'll need some custom skid plates to protect those brakes....

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Sorry, but don t think i could pull that one off, but i will do some ready as to what exactly is involved....i would like to do trailing arms in the back with coilovers

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The only complication I can see with the trailing arms is whether there is enough length to get the trans and transfer case squeezed in infront of the trailing arm cross member. It'd probably be tight. When I measured mine for the 4L80 based on the "0" point in the factory 2WD frame specs (which represents the trans/engine split) it was right there at that cross member with the mount only a few inches ahead of it. I don't remember which trans you were going to use, but the dimensions from the engine to the end of a 700R4/4L60/65/70e is 24" and a 4L80e is 26 1/2" ( both with no tailshafts installed) then add the transfer case. The dimensions from the engine/trans split to the trailing arm cross member is 32 3/8" so it's not a lot to play with and probably not possible with a 4L80.

At first I considered leaving mine 4WD but changing it to 4 wheel coils and an independent front, it just seemed like too much work for something that is kind of unnesissary in a state where there is less rainy days than national holidays and the last time there was measurable snow here was 1954 and there was only one other time in the 20th century and I've been sabotaging all the Priuses I see to make sure that doesn't happen again.

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Great info.,i think it is close enough to investigate, i have lots of room in front of engine to go forward. Right now i have a th350, but an od trans is in my future. I wonder if the 6' bed trucks had trailing arms?

If i go forward, i can make both driveshafts the same lenght

I wonder how you decide on which coilovers to pick from. A new rearend deserves a new rear suspension. I ve downloaded the winters catalog, lots to pick from.......

Oh, BTW, keep sabotaging:lol: