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swamp rat 01-26-2014 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucks68 (Post 6491962)
Questions for the day:
1. Anyone know if there are different tachometers for 6 and 8 cylinder trucks?
2. What is the capacity of the in-cab fuel tank?

Been fiddling a bit just to try and stay interested until the PB stuff gets here. Worked on the dash lights and fuel gauge today. Got some of the lights working and now others that worked before no longer work AHH!!! Swapped the gas gauge for one I had stashed and it goes to empty when powered up, but I'm not sure I have enough gas in it to register, only 4 gallons or so, hence the question above. Hope you are all having a wonder day. ;)

My guess;
Yes
21 gal.

C10_ustacould 01-26-2014 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mahanian (Post 6492705)
No, it won't be reading accurately, basically 75% of actual motor RPM.

I'm guessing someone bled the brakes without the little tool that holds the proportioning valve piston in the center. You will need to re-center it to get the brake light to shut off.

So basically the tach is usless... that's great, the hits just keep on coming! :banghead:

I've heard about centering the piston, but I'm going to have to look into how to do it. Thanks for the heads up!

GAc10boy 01-26-2014 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucks68 (Post 6492731)
So basically the tach is usless... that's great, the hits just keep on coming! :banghead:

I've heard about centering the piston, but I'm going to have to look into how to do it. Thanks for the heads up!

Apparently my parking brake light stays on all the time as well. Let us know what you find out in fixing yours. Keep ya head up!

mahanian 01-26-2014 11:53 PM

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I've had three 6 cylinder tach clusters, they are pretty rare but out there. It's not going to hurt anything to keep the 8 cylinder tach until you can swap it out.

The attached pic shows you how the tool works. You have to open up the end of the valve and push the piston back to the center position. Pull the brake switch so you can watch and see when it is centered

C10_ustacould 01-31-2014 06:35 PM

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Got a shipping notification from UPS... looks like some parts are beginning to make their way from Apache Junction to my little garage. Probably just front and rear coil-overs, which actually come from Indiana, but I am stoked to start receiving parts from our friends at Porterbuilt. :D

Rusbuilt 01-31-2014 06:37 PM

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Sweet!!!

Bennett68C10 01-31-2014 08:20 PM

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Awesome news, always love getting new parts

C10_ustacould 02-01-2014 06:47 PM

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Pro Performance has a Boyd Welding fuel tank group buy going on for us, but I think I'm going to have to miss out. I thought I had my plan figured out, side fill through the marker light, but I really like the caps n2billet uses from crafty b (http://www.crafty-b.net/products/gas...e=pages&page=3). One of these caps would have to be mounted in the center to look right which negates participating in the group buy. Here is a pic of the one I like. Pic is courtesy of his web site... What say you??

lolife99 02-01-2014 07:21 PM

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Won't Boyd's Welding make you a "center fill" tank?

C10_ustacould 02-01-2014 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by lolife99 (Post 6503137)
Won't Boyd's Welding make you a "center fill" tank?

Yep, just not in a group buy. I'm waffling back and forth on this. The side fill is slick, but Crafty b's caps are so freakin' cool!

knomadd 02-01-2014 08:39 PM

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what's your ultimate plan for the truck? are you ever going to use the bed that would make the center fill a problem? Or would it never see it's bed used for anything and the center fill wouldn't be a problem, or even a cool conversation piece at a show?

If you plan on using the bed much, the center fill might not be the best option. I've got one, but it's nearly flush with the ribs in the bed floor, so a load wouldn't be an issue, unless I forget to fill it before loading the bed. :lol:

Good luck making a decision, both ideas are pretty slick!

C10_ustacould 02-01-2014 09:27 PM

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C'mon Duane! Don't bring common sense into this! :lol:

jmedero 02-02-2014 02:11 AM

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I'd say go for it. It looks trick.... And if common sense was going to be used this thread would not exist. Lol.
Oh I know where a 6.0 is at..... Call me if your interested.

C10_ustacould 02-03-2014 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jmedero (Post 6503757)
I'd say go for it. It looks trick.... And if common sense was going to be used this thread would not exist. Lol.
Oh I know where a 6.0 is at..... Call me if your interested.

Well said Juan! I'm not ready to buy an engine yet. You'll know when I am, I'll put the word out to see what is out there.

It's no secret that I am less than enthused about this truck at this point than I was when I purchased it. I have been struggling with what I want to do with this truck and what many others believe should be done with it. I know… I know, it’s mine so I should do what I want with it, right? Well, not so much. First, I value the opinions of some members due to their knowledge and/or successful builds which weighs on me. Second, if a truck has a significant configuration, or low miles for instance, then you’d like to honor that by not doing something irreversible to it. There are quite a few people that feel that way about this truck, and commented here and on Instagram about being true to the originality of the truck. I am coming to a crossroads where it will become a point of no return, a decision will have to be made, and I am becoming more comfortable with the direction I have chosen. This is not a Yenko Camaro or a pristine ’63 split window Corvette, so it will not be a shame to alter it, it will most certainly increase its value. (Especially the Porterbuilt parts!) This truck will likely need to be painted after the sheet metal is fixed and I’m thinking some GM 503 light green just may be in order… just maybe. ;)

GAc10boy 02-03-2014 03:03 PM

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Buck - Hate to see you struggle with the decisions on the truck but I'm confident you'll do the right thing for you and your son. Enjoy following this thread and look forward to seeing how Shiro progresses over the next few months.

And I love 503 light green! Wasn't that the color of your stepper?

sduckworth13 02-03-2014 05:12 PM

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Buck, here is a frame that has some Porterbuilt stuff already done and another ad for some Porterbuilt tubular control arms.
http://reading.craigslist.org/cto/4280533689.html
http://huntsville.craigslist.org/pts/4300289888.html

knomadd 02-03-2014 05:37 PM

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If you put that filler in the bed, you can't cover it up! Just sayin' :lol:

Justin36 02-03-2014 06:09 PM

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Hey Buck. I have been kind of growing threw the same thing you have.. And my dad enlightened me in a way I haven't looked at it. Your truck has the original motor and that's awesome, but when your finished original motor or not, your going to have billet wheels and porterbuilt of which neither even existed when your truck was new ,, no one will be complaining that you ditched stock suspension or stock wheels.. As you said it isn't a yenko or a split window, have a matching numbers 6 cylinder means nothing in my book either anymore... So with that being said, do what you and your son like, because at the end on the day that's all that matters

preacher anthony 02-03-2014 10:50 PM

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X2

C10_ustacould 02-04-2014 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by GAc10boy (Post 6505995)
Buck - Hate to see you struggle with the decisions on the truck but I'm confident you'll do the right thing for you and your son. Enjoy following this thread and look forward to seeing how Shiro progresses over the next few months.

And I love 503 light green! Wasn't that the color of your stepper?

Me too, and yes the 68 was that color. I must admit that for me to say it will be green is presumptuous, I will talk to the boy and we’ll weave it into the plan. Honestly, repainting the exterior white would be the easiest thing, but we’ll see what he says.

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Originally Posted by sduckworth13 (Post 6506171)
Buck, here is a frame that has some Porterbuilt stuff already done and another ad for some Porterbuilt tubular control arms.

Thanks for the links but I have a full Porterbuilt coil-over suspension on order, and hopefully just weeks out, so no need for any more suspension parts at this time.

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Originally Posted by knomadd (Post 6506205)
If you put that filler in the bed, you can't cover it up! Just sayin' :lol:

About the only thing the my son will be carrying is drums (I love my band geek!) so not much to worry about there.

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Originally Posted by Justin36 (Post 6506244)
Hey Buck. I have been kind of growing threw the same thing you have.. And my dad enlightened me in a way I haven't looked at it. Your truck has the original motor and that's awesome, but when your finished original motor or not, your going to have billet wheels and porterbuilt of which neither even existed when your truck was new ,, no one will be complaining that you ditched stock suspension or stock wheels.. As you said it isn't a yenko or a split window, have a matching numbers 6 cylinder means nothing in my book either anymore... So with that being said, do what you and your son like, because at the end on the day that's all that matters

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Originally Posted by preacher anthony (Post 6506719)
X2

Thanks guys, I should highlight that my feelings of let's call it discouragement were fueled by more than just the configuration and low mileage of the truck. The condition of the truck took me by surprise. I expected to have just two rusty cab corners to deal with and unfortunately found more than that. It's nothing that can't be handled but I was not prepared for it which weighed on me a good bit and I honestly didn't know if I wanted to keep the truck. I feel fortunate to have the guys here on the forum for support and guys like Hart_Rod, n2billet, and lowlife99 in my corner to lend a hand or give advice. (I know… I’m such a name dropper!:lol:) Nate at Porterbuilt has also been awesome to work with, answering questions and offering opinions and advice to help make my project go as planned the first time. So, we are going to press forward, not looking back, to try and create a truck that will play a big part in my son’s high school experience. I am now looking forward to building the truck with my boy and also repaying all the great support we have here on the forum. :metal:

Justin36 02-04-2014 07:54 AM

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I hope this helps too, your dealing with a great color to match back, we bought this solid truck, besides cab and rockers were rotten and the new owner replaced all the rust the cab and rockers were the same on both sides. You can do it! Whether you decide to paint the truck or not!

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...6/cc93713c.jpg
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...FE78658A59.jpg

crawdadfox 02-04-2014 11:07 AM

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Hey Buck cool plans for the truck. Have you thought about getting another frame to build with all the Porterbuilt stuff and engine swap...etc? You could keep the truck in its current state and take care of some of the body issues and minor stuff and still be able to enjoy the truck as is. I find alot of projects get put on the back burner and intrest is lost and are sold off. All the cruise nites kick off next month it would be a shame not to enjoy it before tearing it apart. Now if i can only follow my own advice....i tear everything apart as soon as i get my hands on it!:lol:

C10_ustacould 02-04-2014 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by crawdadfox (Post 6507351)
Hey Buck cool plans for the truck. Have you thought about getting another frame to build with all the Porterbuilt stuff and engine swap...etc? You could keep the truck in its current state and take care of some of the body issues and minor stuff and still be able to enjoy the truck as is. I find alot of projects get put on the back burner and intrest is lost and are sold off. All the cruise nites kick off next month it would be a shame not to enjoy it before tearing it apart. Now if i can only follow my own advice....i tear everything apart as soon as i get my hands on it!:lol:

Thanks bro! I have thought about using another frame and I happen to have one lying around. ;) I guess it must be the tiny bit of purist in me but I prefer to keep the frame with its original cab and such. That way the numbers on the title, VIN tag, SPID, and frame all match. As far as the cruise nights go, I'm not really interested in taking to any at this point. Honestly, I don't find it enjoyable to drive. The carb needs work the gauge panel lights are possessed, which bugs the crap out of me. I have a couple of small projects to keep me busy while I'm waiting for the rest of the PB kit to arrive. I am also lucky enough to have Hart_Rod just up the road so I can hitch a ride with him. :metal: I appreciate the advice and look forward to seeing what you bring to Cruisin’ the Coast this year.

C10_ustacould 02-04-2014 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Justin36 (Post 6507130)
I hope this helps too, your dealing with a great color to match back, we bought this solid truck, besides cab and rockers were rotten and the new owner replaced all the rust the cab and rockers were the same on both sides. You can do it! Whether you decide to paint the truck or not!

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...6/cc93713c.jpg
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...FE78658A59.jpg

Looks good!!

C10_ustacould 02-08-2014 11:07 PM

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We started replacing the vent windows and seals today. My son did very well and asked a lot of questions along the way, I'm very proud. :D The passenger side is done, we'll tackle the drivers side in the morning.:metal:

lolife99 02-08-2014 11:12 PM

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Progress is good!

C10_ustacould 02-08-2014 11:18 PM

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Yep, something to do while we wait on the good stuff from Nate and the Porterbuilt gang to show up. Did receive a few parts... coil-overs from RideTech and the steering rack and column hookup kit from Unisteer.

preacher anthony 02-08-2014 11:28 PM

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Shorts and a t-shirt in February! Only in Florida!

screaminchevypickup 02-09-2014 12:03 AM

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Looking good!

swamp rat 02-09-2014 01:03 AM

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Please send me some of that sun! its snowing here again.... Wings look great too!

Rusbuilt 02-09-2014 08:09 AM

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Very nice!

Bennett68C10 02-09-2014 09:20 AM

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Looks great, I'm jealous of your son wearing shorts in February too, that is awesome, maybe someday :lol:

C10_ustacould 02-09-2014 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by preacher anthony (Post 6516147)
Shorts and a t-shirt in February! Only in Florida!

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Originally Posted by swamp rat (Post 6516396)
Please send me some of that sun! its snowing here again.... Wings look great too!

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Originally Posted by Bennett68C10 (Post 6516589)
Looks great, I'm jealous of your son wearing shorts in February too, that is awesome, maybe someday :lol:

It's been "cold" here until recently, were are very happy to have the sunshine back!

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Originally Posted by screaminchevypickup (Post 6516283)
Looking good!

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Originally Posted by Rusbuilt (Post 6516548)
Very nice!

Thanks guys.

BigCountryx 02-09-2014 08:36 PM

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Man I'm jealous. Do you rent out your boy since he has the know how? My old blue girl needs some vent tlc.

CC69Rat 02-09-2014 09:21 PM

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Buck - not assuming you don't know,.. just making a statement. On the outside what rust you can see is all you can describe when you are in a 'seller' situation. As a buyer,.. when you get it home and tear into it beyond where the previous owner did,.. you will always find more rust than is visible. Its easy to blame the seller just remember it was likely an honest sale as he could only represent what he could see.

That's an awesome truck man.. don't let it discourage you and your son. Just keep digging.. you'll get it worked out.

C10_ustacould 02-09-2014 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCountryx (Post 6517613)
Man I'm jealous. Do you rent out your boy since he has the know how? My old blue girl needs some vent tlc.

Brother, you bring the truck and the parts over and we'll knock them out while you and your girl catch some rays at the beach! (Buttering you up just in case you let that Blazer go.;))

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Originally Posted by CC69Rat (Post 6517707)
Buck - not assuming you don't know,.. just making a statement. On the outside what rust you can see is all you can describe when you are in a 'seller' situation. As a buyer,.. when you get it home and tear into it beyond where the previous owner did,.. you will always find more rust than is visible. Its easy to blame the seller just remember it was likely an honest sale as he could only represent what he could see.

That's an awesome truck man.. don't let it discourage you and your son. Just keep digging.. you'll get it worked out.

I'm sort of an open book, maybe too open, I tend to state how I feel about things openly. My posts about the condition of this truck were not intended as shots at the PO. They were simply how I was feeling after looking at the truck more closely. With that said, the rust in the rockers was advertised and I understood the risk they posed when I bought the truck. However, the other spots were not divulged and in fact the description implied there was no other rust in the truck. Taken directly from the for sale add: "There is one spot of rust on the drivers side cab corner under the gas tank, which is the most common spot. as well as a smaller one on the passenger side cab corner under the tank. What is uncommon is that this truck has no rust anywhere else." This is clearly not true. The description seemed well written and detailed and because he is a board member I figured the description was complete so I didn't ask for additional pictures, which was my mistake. I have some regrets about buying this truck, but I have accepted responsibility for it. I have not contacted the PO at all about the truck since I took the time to really dig into it, and I don’t care to talk with him about it. It’s a pretty nice truck, and I think we will be able to have some fun with it. But it is not likely to be anything near what it was in stock form. :metal: I appreciate what you said in your post, unfortunately I don't think it fits this particular case.

CC69Rat 02-09-2014 11:58 PM

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Just trying to help and encourage you to keep at it is all.

C10_ustacould 02-10-2014 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CC69Rat (Post 6518026)
Just trying to help and encourage you to keep at it is all.

And I appreciate the encouragement! I know you have eclipsed some rough times recently and, although very different circumstances, you can relate to my being discouraged so I take your encouragement to heart. I just wanted to rationalize some of the things I have posted previously. Thanks bro!

nlped 02-10-2014 05:50 PM

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Just got caught back up. Rust sucks!!! But you have what seems like a great plan for your sons truck, and some rust repair will just make him more vested in the trucks future. Suck it up, cut it up and fix her up. It's already a cool truck, but when you get done...It's gonna be an awesome truck! He's a lucky kid, for sure!

C10_ustacould 02-10-2014 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by nlped (Post 6519021)
Suck it up, cut it up and fix her up.

Now THAT is awesome advice. :metal:


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