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oldman3 05-01-2011 09:45 AM

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Sorry I didn't post yesterday, friends over.
Here I have removed paint from left rear fender, ready for hammer and dolly work.

oldman3 05-01-2011 09:47 AM

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After getting the metal close as I could. I had removed all the old crap from the inside of fenders, blasted and coated with encapsulator paint.

oldman3 05-01-2011 09:49 AM

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Pic 1 This is the fender after a little filler, primer sanding and reprimer.

Pic 2 Both rear fenders ready for paint.

oldman3 05-01-2011 09:52 AM

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Pic 1 This is the final layout of my console. Got the radio and AC control openings cut and units installed.

Pic 2 Another view.

oldman3 05-01-2011 09:56 AM

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Need to tell a little story here. I'm no different than most home builders on here, things get in our way and work on our trucks take a back set. At this point I was about 1-1/2 years into the build. The next 5 months hardly anything got done. This will happen a couple of times during my build, just wanted everyone to know, no build goes as smooth as we want. Jim

oldman3 05-01-2011 10:01 AM

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Pic 1 Here I have installed Alan Grove brackets and installed the alternator and compressor.
Pic 2 Started running AC lines and heater hoses. Spent hours trying to figure out the right layout (don't think I ever did).
Pic 3 Fabing the hard lines for the fuel system.
Pic 4 Inside view of bulk head and AC lines.

oldman3 05-01-2011 10:05 AM

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Pic 1 Starting to fab up my exhaust system, mandrel bends from J.C. Whitney.

Pic 2 For over rear axle.

Pic 3 Making up hangers and fitting to mufflers (stainless steel Borla).

oldman3 05-01-2011 10:09 AM

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Pic 1 From header back toward mufflers.

Pic 2 From mufflers to the end of pipes.

oldman3 05-01-2011 10:13 AM

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A couple years, YES YEARS later, they were taken apart. I drove to HPC in Oklahoma City, observed their parts check in system. Toured their facility and left my parts to be coated to match my headers.

Well thats today's post. Next post is on the aluminum lift off top. If I get clear I may post that later today, no promises. Jim

flatbed51 05-01-2011 06:40 PM

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By mounting the latch in the body it allowed me to make up this manual button system for opening the doors. A hole was drilled in the cab corner, pipe welded to the hole in corner, and a threaded rod thru the pipe with a knob on the end. Push up on the knob and the door pops open. Part way up the threaded rod is a tee mounted, to this I added another rod that will stick out passed the interior panel for inside use. The top of the threaded rod is secured to the lever on the latch.

Jim, I have to see more about this install. I just got home after spending four days at Pate Swap Meet in Ft.Worth Tx. and fell fell in love with this door handle install I saw on a 51 for sale. Don

oldman3 05-01-2011 07:19 PM

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Jim, I have to see more about this install. I just got home after spending four days at Pate Swap Meet in Ft.Worth Tx. and fell fell in love with this door handle install I saw on a 51 for sale. Don

Don't know how this one is set up, but it is neat looking. Was that whole cab chrome, or some type of chrome paint??

flatbed51 05-01-2011 07:34 PM

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Don't know how this one is set up, but it is neat looking. Was that whole cab chrome, or some type of chrome paint??

No the truck was a very very slick Black,I guess it was my camera or something caused it to look like that.

oldman3 05-02-2011 06:36 PM

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Jim, I have to see more about this install. I just got home after spending four days at Pate Swap Meet in Ft.Worth Tx. and fell fell in love with this door handle install I saw on a 51 for sale. Don

I've been asked to give a little more detail on my door latch system. I'm not a mechanical engineer, so I'm sure there is an easier way. I have a tendency to make things more complicated that they are, so I'm sorry in advance. I would have taken pictures of the set up, but I would have to remove the interior, and that I don't want to do. As mentioned earlier this is for a manual button system.

oldman3 05-02-2011 06:38 PM

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I will break it down from the top of latch to the bottom of cab. The latch is mounted upside down so that it works as a push up (an not a pull down) latch.

oldman3 05-02-2011 06:41 PM

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Sketch 1 shows the top part that is attached to the bear claw latch arm. I welded a 1/4X20 bolt to the latch arm, then I added a 1/4X20 nut, then an eyelet fitting, another 1/4X20 nut. A 1/4X20 threaded rod also screws into the bottom of the eyelet fitting that will go thru the pipe in the cab body.

oldman3 05-02-2011 06:45 PM

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Next you will need to thread a 1/4X20 nut up on the threaded rod. Find a location for mounting a brake line holder (mine is on the exhaust tube brace). Mount that holder so the nut rest on top of holder. This will allow you to keep the latch arm in a netural position, when door is closed (see sketch 2).

oldman3 05-02-2011 06:50 PM

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Depending on where you want to mount your inside lift handle will determine how far you thread the tee fitting up on the threaded rod. The tee fitting is made out of two 1/4X20 1" long nuts (you can get this at the local bolt place). Weld one up to the face of the other to form a tee (see sketch 3 "A". Add 1/4X20 threaded rod to length and put knob on the end.

One you have a location for the threaded rod, drill a hole in the cab corner, large enough for your pipe, and weld to cab. Insert threaded rod thru the pipe, and cut to length, and add the knob (see sketch 3 "B").

oldman3 05-02-2011 06:57 PM

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Pic 1 shows my inside lift handle, near floor, easy to reach while in the seat.

Pic 2 shows the knob at the bottom of the cab corner coming thru the pipe. Push up and the door opens.

oldman3 05-02-2011 06:59 PM

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With everything in place adjust the nuts at the latch to have a little play between the eyelet, once you have everything lined up and working, put red locktite on all the nuts to keep them from moving. If anyone wants more just PM me and we will work in out.

Be back in a few for my regular daily post. Jim

oldman3 05-02-2011 07:28 PM

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Had not worked on pickup for about 4 months, helping friends with their rides, etc. Anyhow, I fabed up a wooden structure to mock up the roof. Here the wood is covered with white poster board. Gave me a good look at how the top might be.

oldman3 05-02-2011 07:31 PM

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Here are three views of the wood structure, nothing fancy, just for mockup.

oldman3 05-02-2011 07:33 PM

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Somewhere during this time I had also worked on the hood, primered and installed.

oldman3 05-02-2011 07:34 PM

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Started making up the aluminum angle across top of header.

oldman3 05-02-2011 07:35 PM

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Bent the 3/4" x 3/4" aluminum tubing to match the outside shape of cab.

oldman3 05-02-2011 07:37 PM

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Here I have bent the aluminum tubing to match the shape of main upright support.

oldman3 05-02-2011 07:40 PM

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I have an old Autocad system on my old PC that I use for drawings. I drew up the structure I wanted for the top, based on the mockup. This way I knew what angles I needed to cut my pieces to form the shape of top.

oldman3 05-02-2011 07:44 PM

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A few days later and here is most of the aluminum structure welded in place. I've never welded aluminum before, and it's not easy, and mine welds look like ****. What I did was convert my MIG to weld aluminum. You have to use pure argon, I also had to use .030 aluminum wire (the .023 just bunched up in gun). When you first start it isn't hot enough, but does OK after you get going. I just ground out the real bad stuff at the start.

oldman3 05-02-2011 07:46 PM

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View from the back, if you look at the left side you can see how I have the new roof sloping inward, and not going straight up.

oldman3 05-02-2011 07:49 PM

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When I got the top fabed, I knew I had a problem with the initial header and door piece layout. Before I go on, if you look at the door piece you can see where I welded in a piece of metal to fill in where the old molding used to be.

oldman3 05-02-2011 07:51 PM

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May be hard to see the yellow tape, but this is the new design layout for header and door piece.

oldman3 05-02-2011 07:53 PM

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Pic 1 Now I'm on the passenger door, but you can see the metal has been cut for the A pillar and header.

Pic 2 Metal removed.

oldman3 05-02-2011 07:55 PM

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Pic 1 Part of header material removed.

Pic 2 More header material removed and trying to figure out new design on the A pillar.

oldman3 05-02-2011 07:58 PM

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Pic 1 Made new inside piece that door will go against.

Pic 2 Here the new metal has been added to door. After I cut off the old curved part I had to dig thru the old door upper parts to find a straight piece to install.

oldman3 05-02-2011 08:00 PM

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Pic 1 Here is the new header and door design with top it position.

Pic 2 Close up with the wood window up. Now the header, door, window and top all meet at a nice point.

oldman3 05-02-2011 08:02 PM

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Here is the top with the aluminum sheet installed on the structure. I used .050" aluminum to make the cover.

oldman3 05-02-2011 08:04 PM

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Pic 1 Front view.

Pic 2 3/4 view.

Pic 3 Full front view.

oldman3 05-02-2011 08:08 PM

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Most of my info on this top came from an article I read in one of the rod magazines (can't remember which one, but I think it was on a 32 F**d roadster pickup) about size of material, etc.

Well about 3 months had passed during this time, not all in the shop, but time doesn't stand still. On to the next job.

Indian113 05-03-2011 06:03 AM

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Jim, did you use rivets or screws to put the top together on frame? Love the door latches simple yet unique.

Russell Ashley 05-03-2011 08:22 AM

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Been following this thread for a while now. That is totally cool! Nice work..

oldman3 05-03-2011 01:22 PM

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Jim, did you use rivets or screws to put the top together on frame? Love the door latches simple yet unique.

Yes I used rivets, put a little dough over them, primered, then had it covered with closed cell foam and contvertible top material. If i had a Tig welder I would have tried to weld, but not with the Mig.


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