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this weekend's distraction ... painting my FIL's truck. he's had the green capper on there for years, but i installed the blue bed last year when his rotted off. old work truck bed put back on an old work truck, so only a little touch-up of the minor stuff before paint. i'm less of a body/paint guy than a sheet metal guy (have i said i hate sheet metal before?) so this was a good "test bed" for me. pun intended. taping in the sun when it's 90 n humid SUCKED, so we got up at dawn the next day to paint. wife helped mix paint and clean up though.
anyways, the 4 coats of color turned out great and matches the inside of the door jams really well! but the truck is faded b/c red truck stored outside. i also should have taken more time to adjust my spray gun, after finishing i realized i needed a taller pattern with more paint to have done a better job. needing to lay down a wetter coats. zero runs though! but you can see where i induced some orange peal in dryer spray areas. it's 1000x better than before though, and my FIL will be excited, so game on. https://i.imgur.com/5Umtr9t.jpg https://i.imgur.com/WqfUeaT.jpg https://i.imgur.com/4c8utSw.jpg https://i.imgur.com/LNGCLZB.jpg https://i.imgur.com/uNoJkzx.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ODPKXQk.jpg |
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I see you had the boss out there supervising. Good thing you didn't screw it up.
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love the organic paint booth, must have not been windy
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No turning back now! and this, so far, is sucking less than anticipated :lol:
so i found a pdf online of a black and white photo set and description from a magazine that said to cut out the bulk and remove each section of spot welds individually. what a world of difference this one tip has made. a buddy then said to wire-wheel the area to see all the spot welds a lot easier, again, huge win. i still have the little bit around the cab mount structure to get out, but that shouldn't be too bad. https://i.imgur.com/R3Osp7O.jpg https://i.imgur.com/UtuRgou.jpg https://i.imgur.com/lBn71FD.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ZEPB9tG.jpg |
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That is dirty work, but very rewarding.
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Looks like a good time right there. Are you going to make your way down to Butler this weekend?
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so only finished up removing metal, cleaning, and rust prep last night. this rust stuff seams LEGIT now that i'm finally getting a handle on how to use it. AutoTech Rust Prep.
this stuff ... the gallon is cheaper than the 16oz spritz bottle, so i bought my own bottle. protect your floor, it will etch the cement. i also try and keep it off my chassis since i plan to clear coat it, it will also etch any bare steel it gets on. https://smile.amazon.com/Auto-Tech-M...0ZAOI97M&psc=1 also finally found an application method i like. i have it in a spritz bottle and mist it on, but have a rag to wipe up the drips coming off the bottom. then once the rag gets kind of saturated i use the rag to dab everything down and make sure it's in all the little spaces. once it's about half dry and the white starts to show up, i re-coat the whole thing with extra rag dabbing to help clean off the start of the white residue. after it's totally dry you have to clean all the white off with water (just a wet rag) before paint. these pictures are not wet, that's the hard finish it leaves. it does needs the rest of the white cleaned off too. https://i.imgur.com/qlSCM7D.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Z0jXi8v.jpg |
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Progress! Needs some clean up once i tip the cab up, but she's solid.
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It's all coming together nicely. I've got one of the SWAG brakes as well; super handy. I used it a ton fabbing frame pieces for my C- notch. All looking good - keep it up
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:collapse: wow, i think i have more time into fixing this damn drivers floor than i do building the chassis. a few hours Friday night, a few more Saturday, and then ALL Sunday out there working on it. it's not even done! i have to weld from the back side to finish the over-lap fit.
once things were re-stabilized with the rocker mostly welded back in and everything wasn't going to fall as far out of alignment, i started cutting out more BS. also used the body mount holding the brace along the back of the step to weld it back in before cutting out the main mount structure. really helped me line up the new bits. then to keep more warpage to a minimum i filled the old brake hole before cutting out the bulk of the mess. started by patching the door frame and getting it prepped, then moved on to fabbing up the next filler plate. the SWAG press making quick work of it. then started a crap-ton more prep work while i rust prepped everything and got the weld-thru primer on. https://i.imgur.com/Pk80zKU.jpg https://i.imgur.com/AyQSMrt.jpg https://i.imgur.com/KyBlFzo.jpg https://i.imgur.com/l0xoFAQ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/KBT47HD.jpg https://i.imgur.com/TcmBPI2.jpg |
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so after a little more trim/eyeball/trim/eyeball/over-trim ... the filler plate went in. you can also see where i extended the floor cut towards the tunnel for more bad metal along the entire factory seam. then more prep involving dry time, so i filled the holes in the rear floor, that officially go crossed off the list! and back to toiling away getting the mount structure to actually line up with the mount location. notice the slot, it was way off.
the entire cab is assembled with overlap fits and i personally think they are stronger and line up the panels better, so i went with that. it's also worked really well for floor pans in a few jeeps before. and success! holds it's own weight, rocker is level with the ground still, and i won't be flintstoneing it any time soon! https://i.imgur.com/7lS8Ydy.jpg https://i.imgur.com/oiQ5M8p.jpg https://i.imgur.com/u06K0OA.jpg https://i.imgur.com/NODES5x.jpg https://i.imgur.com/8iW85uj.jpg https://i.imgur.com/4iwpias.jpg |
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for anyone interested in a little more detail, here is how i got the stamped floor ribs to nest better in the over-lap joint.
1) slice along the outside of the "spooning" rib. close to it, but up in the flat of the panel. 2) with a flat dolly of some kind, use a ball peen to hammer the rib out wider. 3) now that the panels fit snug, tack weld the seam from both sides. more hammer might be needed to perfect the fit. 4) seam seal everything in. https://i.imgur.com/zVSsQlw.jpg https://i.imgur.com/tZRVmet.jpg |
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It always feels great to get metal repair behind you...Looks like you made some great progress.
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Looks like it is getting there. I am going through the same on the 57 I am doing. It is nice to get that work behind you. Steve
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before i can drive it i only need to prep/paint the floor under/over so that it never needs to come off the chassis again. to do that i still need to fix one small spot on the passenger side and finish welding the drivers. some winter project later it will needs cab corners at all 4 corners, and a bit in the eyebrow if/when i pull the windshield. shoot, the entire inside lower edge of the drives door is gone, there's nothing to even put a seal on. that'll have to wait til after she's on the road too.
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Nice work !! and yes removing and fixing rot takes forever to do it right. I use a similar spray that is called rust converter very happy with it.
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great metal work, and thanks for the tip.
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it's crazy, with ya'll getting work done and such why do i feel like i need to apologize for not carrying my weight :lol: like i missed uploading an episode or something! keep everyone motivated ya'll
so there might have been a mini vacation in there, a little boat trip. good lord was it hot in NC. got the passenger floor all patched, so that's checked off the list. decided to not weld the underside of the drivers side til she's tipped up, so it was time to hit some other details. just because i needed a change of pace the first thing was final welding, grease, and assembly of the carrier bearing. one more part that now just needs paint and installation! got the interior back in so i could finalize the alignment of the new shorter steering column and build the shaft down to the steering box. seat fit great with the tunnel, but also now realizing that i'll need a fwd jog in the shifter if i hope to ever open the drivers side seat bottom at all. i hope to take it to at least the steering wheel. but with the seat putting the driver closer to the door, and the tunnel pushing the pedals out some, i re-drilled my column mount and offset it in that same direction. my vision is now centered thru the wheel at the cluster, and is much more comfortable to one-hand. next up are is the throttle pedal fitment and getting the steering shaft heim joint support in place. https://i.imgur.com/qOQpz1R.jpg https://i.imgur.com/MhPRNpm.jpg https://i.imgur.com/FwjcOXJ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ffoQUZo.jpg https://i.imgur.com/H5Qrkub.jpg https://i.imgur.com/qWzeVoF.jpg |
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Nice!! I see you have the standard safety sandals on, I'm bad for trying to do a bit of welding with them on really hurts.
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Tell me more about this carrier bearing.... When I stretch the Jeep more I want to build a two piece front drive shaft so the front and rear shafts are interchangeable.
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http://branikmotorsports.com/branik-...-bearing-1410/ https://torqueking.com/product/99108...1dhd-np241dld/ my YJ was built with the same CV shaft front/rear with a 2pc front. but a WAY cheaper junkyard build. i took the front output shaft from a roached NP231, radially cut the gear off, and turning ground whole thing to 1.5". just the seal dia the whole shaft back. that slipped into some 1.75" x 0.120 wall DOM leaving half the shaft exposed. i then slipped a cheap pillow block onto that remaining 1.5" OD and mounted that to the frame. the stock 231 1310 CV yoke will bolt on/off. nice and rebuildable with basic bits. a stock TJ slip yoke also uses a 1.5" seal so it slipped into the other end of the DOM to complete the mid shaft and go to the d300 with a standard joint. only issue is the angles aren't set up right and will vibrate bad at speed if i don't unlock the hubs. the 55 however has precisely set angles ;) https://i.imgur.com/vgxKmP9.jpg |
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That's a great idea! Will there be a need for the short shaft to the transfer case to get longer or shorter a bit with the flex of the motor, even if it is like only 1/4"? Just a thought.
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no issues so far! my engine/trans are on a more firm mount than factory, and i didn't make the carrier mount super stiff so it could absorb every so slightly a shock load.
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mocked up the air compressors with the new backing plate, just need to make the tabs that weld into the fuel tank mount channel.
got the throttle pedal in, and the high beam foot switch in. also got the steering in!!! I've been wanting to see this together for a while. it's super close to the engine mount bolt and the shock tower, but clears by enough. it's also like 1/2deg before internal contact in the joint at the column, but is still smooth. the heim mount shouldn't flex much :lol: EDIT: ... i'm going to have to clearance the shock tower for chassis flex clearance ... Edit 2: change flex to torque twist at launch :lol: https://i.imgur.com/JIfUvDt.jpg https://i.imgur.com/3tQIRnr.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Ih06Mep.jpg https://i.imgur.com/dQfwOb9.jpg https://i.imgur.com/0O8RdAN.jpg |
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A whole lot of great fab work goring on over there....Nicely done..
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well, started a new project/adventure on Monday. a new accessory for the 55 when she's finally ready to tow!
1970 23ft Airstream Safari that my grandfather bought new. it's been about 10 years since it was used, and he stopped using it after it had fallen to such bad repair. well i've had it for about 8 years, and it's been about 6 years since he passed away, so it was time we dropped it off for a partial restoration at P&S trailers. SUPER excited not only for the family trailer to be useable again, but to be able to adventure with it. far left https://i.imgur.com/W8nFzj8.jpg |
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Great work on the rust repair. That Airstream doesn't look too bad. It's cool you got it and I'm sorry to hear about your grandfather. That is going to look great behind your truck!
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The Airstream will look right at home behind the Tow Rat.
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That's so cool, I love the old air streams. I saw an old air stream motor home on the highway last year, didn't even know they made them.
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small updates, but lots of summer fun. got my exhaust hanger brackets cut and placed, that's a 4" inlet to an adjustable 4" exhaust brake, and then 5" out thru the 5" muffler. hopefully when the bolts are tight she'll hang a bit higher, or i'll end up with a bar or something to hold up the middle.
spent Saturday trying to brake the jeep again, but she held together. then Sunday took one of the wife's friends and her b/f out on the ski boat for a day of proving we weren't too old for this sh!t. :lol: these are the exhaust rubbers i used: https://www.summitracing.com/parts/wlk-35296 https://i.imgur.com/PyQkZgN.jpg https://i.imgur.com/VO1fSLV.jpg https://i.imgur.com/LJ02VG9.jpg https://i.imgur.com/sOpUmQY.jpg |
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The exhaust looks great. I like how tucked up high it is. I used some similar hangers on mine. They work great.
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i feel like this could be a polarizing subject, but lets hear your thoughts either way.
Seat Belts / Harnesses i went for bright orange to contrast the blue n white, and still thinking i'd like to do an orange firewall after seeing the Backyard 55's red. i just love the accent contrast. but that's not the touchy subject. so i got 5pt harnesses and will be installing them as a 4pt. my goal is to be better off than a 3pt kit, not race-ready. legally i could have none, but that's stupid. i don't think anyone would hate on just a lap belt cuz that's easy and way better than nothing. however with the steering wheel close i wanted more than just the 2pt lap. so i was researching 3pt and it just didn't seam like enough. (there's a reason new cars also include air bags with a 3pt) between the belt stretch, ratchet time to catch, give in the cab corner steel even with a giant weld-washer, my weight as a big dude, and the proximity of the wheel, i just didn't think it would really help enough. i run a 5pt harness in both jeeps and love em, so that's what i wanted. however trying to get a harness bar in the cab when i'm already basically leaning on the back wall was a rough fit. i saw guys who had a tube welded from cab corner to cab corner, but i'd be leaning on the tube all the time. then i thought about cutting out that whole inner structure below the glass for more space, or running a tube behind it, but the seat leans on it and that low is a dangerous mounting angle for the shoulder belts. another option would be to just bolt the harness tabs flat to the cab structure, but they aren't designed to function in bending and still just a single mounting bolt to the sheet metal. even with a big weld washer. so here's my solution, the harness plate. it's 12" wide with more bolts to spread the load out over a lot larger area. it's heavy enough to withstand the perpendicular belt mounting, and it let me mount the belts up into the glass area for proper angle off my shoulders. should be nice n solid around town, and any accident hard enough to bend/pull the cab structure right below where it welds to the outer skin in the window, was hard enough it's all fawked anyways. should hold me up better than a 3pt for sure, but obviously not good enough for any form of racing. https://i.imgur.com/PO28BYX.jpg https://i.imgur.com/1dH57cd.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Wen6N9o.jpg |
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