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Oh the rust repair sounds promising also. Good luck!
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Well got a little bit done on the truck today.....We decided to re adjust the valves ….they hadn't been adjusted since it was built and originally set.
So we backed them off and then readjusted them, we also backed off the timing just a little bit and it seemed to wake the truck up.....It actually spun the tires for as long as I wanted to stay in it...which is a GREAT improvement...Tranny is still shifting a lil quick for my liking but I think adjusting the TV cable will alleviate that. Got the grille taken out and ready for the fab guy to weld the tabs on it and weld some studs on the Chevrolet part so that it can be removed. Along with that I got the bed completely taken apart....Someone had tack welded the back floor brace on so has to grind the welds off so it could be removed. Will take this Monday to the shop. Also gathered up all the small pieces I want chromed gathered up and boxed up so I can ship them out to be chromed.....Ill get that shipped out on Monday All in all it was a productive day. The last 2 pics are of my Uncles truck...a 52 5 window...John Deere Yellow and Green....He bought it that way many years ago...It has a 54 inline 6, supposedly a lil bigger motor, and I guess the previous owner put different doors on the truck and changed them from push button door handles to twist door handles, Got to spend Thanksgiving with them yesterday and of course I made him pull it out and we went for a ride. And yeah I have been politicking for this truck for awhile...maybe one day he will sell it to me..... |
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Well had a pretty interesting day today....I took my bed to the metal fabricator in Atlanta...His name is Bryan Fuller. He has been on TV and has worked for and with some of the big guys like Foose etc...and worked on Overhaulin' so that was cool....He has agreed to do the metal work in stages so that I can do a little as I go. After he looked at both sides he basically said it would cost way more to repair it than it would to just buy a new one...The drivers side had a lot of holes in it from rust and evidentially someone drilled a lot of holes in it and filled it with bondo….Even though I has sanded it..once it was blasted it revealed way more than I could initially see...But I am grateful that Bryan just didn't take my money.
Secondly if you have watched Iron Resurrection you will certainly know "Cato" the interior man...Phil has moved from Texas to Atlanta and will be working with Bryan doing interiors...He is such a cool guy, really down to earth. He is getting his shop set up right now and was currently doing some wiring etc...BUT he did sit awhile and talk to me about different options on my interior.....He knows that this truck will not be a show queen and I am gonna drive the wheels off of it once done...so he made some suggestions that I can do at home to help save some money. Once the bed metal work is done I will take the truck over and let them fix the rest of the metal that needs to be replaced...rocker panels, cab corners and 2 small spots on the doors plus a spot on the passenger side floor board...as usual no one can tell what the inner rockers will look like until the outer ones are removed. Once the metal work is done I will be able to drive the truck and try my at body work...I tried welding and realized I was just a hole burner,,,But the body work is a little more forgiving ...I hope...lol at least you can sand it off...lol. Once Bryan has the metal work done and the body panels aligned my hopes are that I can get it close until I can get it sprayed. So as I have been piddling with my truck trying to get it to run better I was able to get the valves adjusted, TV cable adjusted but still doesn't seem to be performing like it should so I had a couple of ole hot rodder guys look at my truck...told them what was going on...what had been done and both said without hesitation that my stall converter is way too low. The cam that was put in to increase the horsepower....They both suggested that I need a 3000-3500 stall and said itll run like a raped ape...So now I gotta find one. So I got the drivers side bedside and front panel ordered...The front panel was really beat up from use and wasn't even worth trying to straighten it out. All in all a pretty productive day...just cool to meet Bryan and Phil Cato...... |
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Sorry to hear about how the metal was after blasting, but you are right...at least he didn't just take your money like you said! It is nice that there are still good shops and people out there.
What are you going to do on your interior? My wife and I are debating that right now. I need to take my seat out...I can't get it to slide at all right now. |
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He then said that on the carpet he makes it...not sure how he does that but Ill trust his judgment...He said normally the carpet kits you buy that are pre-made tend not to fit like they should and kinda look like an after thought since they didn't come with it. Once my truck goes over we can look at door panels....not sure I want to make door panels for it...kinda like the stock look but Im limited in my imagination...since he has been doing it awhile Im sure he has some ideas that I haven't thought about. Oh...Forgot to mention I sent a box out to El Paso for chroming...I sent the head light, tail light, park lamp bezels, custom side panels, deluxe horn ring and horn button. Bryan seems like a really nice guy and honest....Its better to know up front about the bed side...I think whomever did it before just drilled holes for the bondo to attach to.....plus they used some brass brazing instead of welding..kinda weird. He also is fabbing up my C60 Grille....gonna be trick. |
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Just read your truck story...funny how just pulling the motor for cleaning and seals can transform into a restoration. You will never regret doing it right and you are making life time memories. Keep up the good work and keep all of us updated this is good stuff.
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I was going to ask about sending the parts out to get chromed then I forgot. Can't wait to see what they look like. I am going to send some out soon as well. I told everyone in my family I want cash to get bumpers and my grille chromed....maybe I will get $50 haha
Will be interested in the interior...I am like you. Mine will be a daily driver, so nothing fancy inside...but comfortable would be nice with an original look....did he mention pricing? PM me if you want. |
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Cato and I really didn't talk price yesterday except he did tell me the new seat frame is around 500.00...so Im "Guessing" maybe 1500.00 for seats and carpet...The are setting up his work area now and were putting in LED lights...Caro knows I want driver quality and not some show truck and best I can tell is that he isn't gonna do any shotty work because his name will be on it....As they say...Money and time. |
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I watched a video last night on reupholstering the seat. It didn't seem too bad. I need to take my seat out and work on the brackets...they aren't sliding. Then I will probably buy a reupholstery kit off of Etsy I liked...but I want to get some real world feedback on the quality. Here is the link...they have tons of colors and designs and for $400....I can live with that if it does look that good.
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John--you get the parts back from having them chromed?
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I have been out of the country on a mission trip and will be back early next week which will work great!!! I will for sure post some pictures when I get it back. |
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Thanks John, can't wait to see them! Awesome on the mission trip, sounds rewarding!
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Well got my parts back from El Paso Electroplating. As you will see I had the headlamp, park lamp and tail lamp bezels chromed, also had the custom side pieces chromed as well as the deluxe horn ring and horn button chromed as well and basically it was 60.00 for each part... I asked for these to be show chrome even though my truck will not be a show truck. I just wanted to see what their show chrome looked like. So in total I spent 638.09 to have this chromed and this includes shipping.
To give you an idea I had estimates from other chromes shops that ranged from 175.00 to 275.00 just for the head lamp bezels and the other parts were 175.00 each. With all that being said the only parts that are flawless are the headlamp bezels. I can see what looks like a golden color on different places, specifically the horn ring and the sides of the custom panels....I do not know what that means but I will be contacting them to see if this can be corrected...on their dime of course. At the price I paid I do not expect perfection but am concerned with the golden color I see. Just want to make sure it isn't going to rush or peel. I think it must be a lot harder to chrome the aluminum parts because that is mainly where I saw the issues. It is hard to photograph with my phone and it will not stop me from using them on the grille. My estimate for chroming my C60 grille is 325.00.....the cheapest quote I got was 1400.00 and after driving it for a bit and washing I think itll be just fine. |
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Here is the deluxe horn ring and button. The center of the button really isn't noticeable put the little pitted areas in the groves couldn't be gotten out.....
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Looks good John..definitely the right price! I will definitely be sending mine to them.
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The mission trip was to a couple of places in Montemorelos Mexico...We had Christmas for the Childrens home there...mainly orphaned kids. Then we took some battered women and children to town and let them shop for Christmas at Walmart.....while there Ben and I shopped for the "River People" Met an old couple who were bed ridden and needed supplies, so we bought all Walmart had, plus they had some food boxes that we purchased and delivered to the families who live on the river....trust me this is not water front property like we think here in the states...they do it out of necessity of having a water supply. Lastly we went to San Juanita,,,a dirt road town....that my Uncle had physically built the church building years ago before he passed, and we handed out gifts to the church....and we were able to give them a monetary gift as well for the church. It is so rewarding when you can help people, plus through our interpreter we were able to witness to the children and battered woman. Just so sad at the living conditions and the amount of money they make...….. |
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That's great Ruben is going to make the chrome right! Can't complain about that...well we could, but what's the point? :)
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Man those chrome parts look great. The gold is the copper they plate it with before chrome, the chrome wont stick to aluminum so they copper plate it first. Just didn't leave it in long enough. Wow I'm going to have to do that to my hood lights for sure. Thanks for the info on El Paso plating.
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I am envious of your steering wheel John! I haven't found a good one yet and I am not sure I am up to the task of restoring one.
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Found out from the fabricator guy that the wont be able to take my truck till the end of January or first of Feb......Kind of a bummer but understand since he is getting his new shop arranged and set up. Im hoping by summer that all the metal and body work are done on my truck...after that I can paint it at anytime......just want to get it running and drivable and back together so I can DRIVE IT!!!!!! Also got my AAW Classic Update wiring Harness in.....That should be interesting when I start that..lol |
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I thought you bought a NOS SW...was it the horn ring? I am jealous of the SW regardless, mine is not original. I need to find one. I have also seen the epoxy kits to repair them. I do work with epoxy resin regularly, but a thin consistency...so maybe it won't be that hard to do....we will find out!
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When I got home from my trip I had a nice surprise waiting on me from Yelmer.
On my original someone had cut off the spout that comes off the side and looked really funny....Mike had one and sent it to me....it had already been powder coated. Don't mind the pics from the kitchen counter...lol Mike I really appreciate the kindness you showed me.....You are a great guy. |
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Just spent my evening reading through your thread. Great job on all the stuff that you have done to it
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Right now I am in the waiting process to get the rust places repaired...New rockers, cab corners, a small spot on the door and a spot in the passenger floor board....So while I wait on the shop to get to me I am gathering up things I know I will need once that part is finished. |
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Well we have "Hopefully" narrowed down the issue of the truck not running right....fingers crossed. After talking with several ole redneck hot rodders the main theme we came up with is that the stall in the torque convertor was too small.
I ordered a 3200-3600 lockup torque convertor from Jegs and it should be here tomorrow...Wont take long to swap it out and see if that's the issue...If its not the issue then Im just gonna take the truck to the shop who built it and they can make it run right. I also got in my crimpers for the AAW harness I bought...I bought them from Speedway Motors, for the set was 134.00 shipped to me...I guess that's not a bad price since everywhere else was 79.99 ea I know they are only good for certain things and once I am done with them I figure someone on here will probably need them at some point. Sent my ole buddy roll the dice a lil present today...It should be there when he gets back from his vacation...if you haven't checked his build out you should...its pretty neat what he is doing with his truck. Anyways here is a pic of the crimpers |
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Had glorious visions of doing doughnuts today...…...Got my new torque convertor from Jegs made by Boss Hogg convertors....nice pretty sunny day temps not too high and not too cold...….
My day ended on jack stands...…. Pulled ole girl into the garage, placed on jack stands and got the tranny out and installed the new convertor, re-installed the tranny, made sure it was filled with fluid...put it in reverse to back it out the garage with visions of tire roasting smoke......truck did not move one inch.....Hmmmmmm Checked the cooler lines to make sure the pump was pumping...no problem there......So then called the dreaded tech line from Jegs. their suggestion or expert advice was that the convertor was not seated....remove and re-install...Ok Im pretty sure convertor is installed correctly.....ESPECIALLY since my brother in law Randy rebuild and installs transmissions for a living...but we Could have made a mistake...its possible.....So we pulled it out, made sure it was seated and re-installed just as the help line suggested.....Well SAME result....wheels would not turn even on the jack stands. We made sure the input shaft was a 30 spline shaft, that the convertor was a 30 spline convertor....So I called the ole tech line again at Jegs...told them what we did.....so it appears according to him that I MAY have got a bad convertor...MAY HAVE?????? For sure have since I drove it into the garage, installed the convertor and now the wheels wont move on inch. Randy called several of his transmission friends and they agreed ...convertor is bad. So we pulled it out again...this time we pulled it all the way out of the truck....drained the fluid out of the tranny, drained the fluid out of the convertor and then inspected both the pump...which was good, and the convertor which was no Bueno....The input shaft has ridges that line up inside the convertor......So we put a new input shaft inside the convertor and it did not engage the splines...….best we can tell is that the female part inside the convertor was worn extremely low not allowing the sgaft to engage...this wheels wont move....Called jegs again and explained what we found out and they then tell me they do not have a replacement on the shelf, that it would have to ship from the manufacturer which by the way is closed for inventory for the next 2 weeks.....You have got to be kidding me...… Not willing to wait another two weeks I asked if they had a different brand...wasn't too sold on this brand...kind of fool me once type thing.....So am having a Jegs brand (more money) sent on Monday...should be here Tuesday, Wednesday at the latest. Jegs folks were really nice about it all, I know its not their fault...So besides wasting a whole day and a few quarts of fluid I didn't get a whole lot accomplished....No doughnuts today...... |
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I haven't been on here since I've been back. Thanks again for the gift! John was kind enough to send me a steering wheel with horn ring and button.
Dude...that is one heck of a day! You got a lot done...just didn't get it fixed yet! I can't believe you got a bad converter...what's the odds? Jegs should eat the cost on the price difference or at least some of it. |
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Well got a few pictures today from Bryan about my grille. He got is stripped and fixed a couple of places plus got the center Chevrolet mounted. The mounting tabs has slots so I can adjust it up and down....Will get it picked up and sent to Ruben at El Paso Electroplating...
Im so glad that Maggie shared this mod on her truck...I absolutely Love it..which is why I did mine Also will be able to take the rest of the truck to get the metal work completed...So excited!!!! |
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That grille is cool! Definitely one of my favorites even though it technically isn't stock
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I still have my aluminum grille that will probably become wall art at some point . I can easily swap the grill out if I wanted to go back stock....but think this little mod will look pretty cool. |
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nice build and keep those update(s) coming ....
but aw man, that is a sweet looking air cleaner ( been on the search in locating one for some time for mine ) |
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Nice grille John...I always like unique and different pieces. Nice touch!
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Also placed my last order today...hopefully from LMC.....got the new bedside coming, front panel and a couple of other things...actually more than a couple...I did get free shipping because I got so much....I figure might as well order enough to get free shipping instead of paying 400.00 to ship the bed side. Also my new torque convertor came in and will be installing it Saturday....fingers crossed. Got another picture from Bryan today...they are working on the bedside that was worth saving...They had it blasted and are doing the metal work on it...they are also gonna get a coat of good primer on it before I pick it up.....Itll be nice for it to not have a bunch of bondo in it. Cant wait till I take the rest over to him and get the rest of the rust gone and metal work done |
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That's awesome. I love update pictures like that. They are working fast! I unbolted my seat yesterday...going to pull it out and get the carpet out this weekend and see how much more metal work the floor pan needs than I already know about. Fingers crossed!
Good luck with the converter...3rd, 4th, or 5th times the charm? |
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