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4dranch 02-26-2009 04:32 PM

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:haha::haha::

jason65 02-27-2009 01:21 PM

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Mac looks like the burger king mascott. But pink.:lol:

4dranch 02-27-2009 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jason65 (Post 3169759)
Mac looks like the burger king mascott. But pink.:lol:

I'm leaving this one alone....

MacAttack 02-27-2009 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 4dranch (Post 3169803)
I'm leaving this one alone....

Oh yeah, like that's possible. ;)

jason65 02-27-2009 04:07 PM

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Mac, I'm sorry for jacking up your thread. If you ever want me to delete my post just let me know. I will do it immedeitly.

MacAttack 02-27-2009 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jason65 (Post 3169990)
Mac, I'm sorry for jacking up your thread. If you ever want me to delete my post just let me know. I will do it immedeitly.

:mm: Nah - no worries, it's all good.

BTW: Wal-Mart says it now takes a week to develop the Fuji camera pics (used to take 3 working days), so you crazies will have to wait until MONDAY for your fix.

Mac. :chevy:

jason65 02-27-2009 08:11 PM

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Your alright mac.

TimE 02-27-2009 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jason65 (Post 3170445)
Your alright mac.


:agree:

Even though there won't be any pics till Monday!!:cuss:






J/K...:lol:

4dranch 02-27-2009 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jason65 (Post 3170445)
Your alright mac.

I agree with Jason and Tim....

Ooh, ain't you guys got a super wal-mart...????

joe231 02-28-2009 12:07 AM

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Yeah Mac, wasn't sure before....but now I KNOW, your as crazy as us :thumbs:


:lol:fly-over states:lol:

MacAttack 03-02-2009 11:14 AM

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Well, tried to mount the fat ol’ radiator Saturday, but the "U" pieces riveted to the frame aren’t wide enough and the new rubber puts way too much squeeze on new radiator. These tanks are bigger than the original and the new rubber creates a press-fit that’s not good.

Bent the flanges out a bit with a ball peen, but that’s "H/A" and doesn’t fell or look good.

Thinking about bringing the inserts into the shop and band sawing the thickness down a bit, or replacing the "U" pieces with wider units - if they exist, or taking the rivets out, cutting the channels in half and using two carriage bolts to hold the two pieces in place - about 3/8" further apart than they are now.

Haven’t located the upper piece in my collection of boxes yet, but I’m sure it’s too narrow too.

BTW - didn't make it to Wal-Mart over the weekend, but I'll hit them on the way home from work tonight.

;)

jason65 03-02-2009 11:17 AM

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Looking foward to the pics Mac.

4dranch 03-02-2009 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jason65 (Post 3175390)
Looking foward to the pics Mac.

x2

MacAttack 03-03-2009 12:21 PM

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283 - TH350 Install / 1965 C10 Long Bed:

(2nd pic: Son wondering what Dad's been smoking):smoke:

MacAttack 03-03-2009 12:23 PM

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Young Master Logan (my grandson) helping Grandpa. :lol:

MacAttack 03-03-2009 12:37 PM

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Power train dropping in (after removing those AT lines - of course) :lol:

MacAttack 03-03-2009 12:46 PM

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It's in the hole! :metal:

MacAttack 03-03-2009 12:49 PM

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View from the transmission yoke - 2nd pic: notice the 1.2 inches of exposed ground shaft - this prior to moving the cross member forward.

protrash64 03-03-2009 01:08 PM

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Hey Mac, about your radiator. I dont know in which position you are mounting it, but in my truck I didnt use the 'U' brackets. My radiator had a channel on the bottom(upside down U). I pulled out the originals and put 2 poly bumpstops in and set the radiator over them. It cant slide any where and then its held down by the top clamp...in my case from a 67-72.

Thought Id offer the suggestion, but it depends on the bottom of your radiator.

MacAttack 03-03-2009 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by protrash64 (Post 3177487)
Thought Id offer the suggestion, but it depends on the bottom of your radiator.

Thanks for the idea - my radiator doesn't have that and must set in the two mounts - so I'm going to bring half (2 pieces) the rubber set to the shop and see if I can band-saw or surface grind the thickness down. My 'fall-back' position is to use some tar/cork tape to cushion the radiator at the (3) mount points.

Mac. :chevy:

jason65 03-03-2009 01:20 PM

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Great pics Mac. Truck is lookin good.

4dranch 03-03-2009 01:29 PM

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..STOP THE PRESS..STOP THE PRESS..

Mac has posted some pictures.....................:lol:

Nice progress..and nice looking family Mac.

MacAttack 03-03-2009 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 4dranch (Post 3177502)
..STOP THE PRESS..STOP THE PRESS..

Press this: :lol: (another view of that drive link shortness)

4dranch 03-03-2009 02:16 PM

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[QUOTE=MacAttack;3177559]Press this: :lol: QUOTE]

:haha::haha:

MacAttack 03-03-2009 02:16 PM

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Close-up of slip yoke and where the engine towers landed:

MacAttack 03-03-2009 02:19 PM

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From below: Alternator mounted low and deep TH350 aluminum pan. :metal:

MacAttack 03-03-2009 02:23 PM

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C10 back on the ground. Daughter-in-law just loves what I did to her brand new 65-foot RV pad.

Good ol' Grandpa. :lol:

sidthirteen 03-03-2009 03:37 PM

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:metal: Right on Mac!!! Lookin' Good!!!!

protrash64 03-03-2009 06:23 PM

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OK Mac, how about some remnant metal laying around, like square stock. Or go get some in a width close to but greater than the radiator and then saw off a couple pieces an inch wide, cut out one side and make your own 'U'. Drill 'em and bolt 'em in. Another thought,:lol:.

MacAttack 03-03-2009 06:43 PM

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:smoke:

Yep - and that could easily be accomplished at the shop - even with some aluminum bar stock. What I’m concerned with (and haven’t dug it out of my storage boxes yet) is the top piece that bolts to the truck - near the hood latch. Logic would dictate that the width there (radiator tank cross-section) is identical to the two lower mounts.

All surmountable with shop work, but I was actually wondering if there was an applicable after-market solution that is designed for Chevy trucks of our vintage.

The rubber trimming idea may work fine - we’ll know by the weekend. I have a tendency to over-dramatize these types of things, but I want to install it once and not start hearing a tell-tale rattle in about 5,000 miles.

I find the latter infuriating.

Mac. :chevy:

joe231 03-03-2009 07:13 PM

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Nice pics!!!

Captainfab 03-04-2009 01:23 AM

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It sounds to me like your radiator mounts are going to have to be either altered or custom make some new ones. Ones for the factory 4 row core radiator may work, but they are hard to come by. I made some once out of 1/2" x 1" x 1/8" channel and just cut the rubber cushions in half. And yes the top radiator bracket is the same size as the lowers.

MacAttack 03-04-2009 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Captainfab (Post 3178920)
And yes the top radiator bracket is the same size as the lowers.

Well, that answers that. Brought the rubber kit to work today - will see how this stuff cuts and/or grinds. Push comes to shove: Cork Tape. Really don't look forward to cutting those big rivets out to alter the original set-up.

Thanks for the input.

Mac. :chevy:

joe231 03-04-2009 11:05 AM

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my rivets came out pretty easy.....pilot hole through the rivet, then drilled it out with a 3/8" bit, then a hammer and chisel finished them off. Just need a good sharp bit. I have a $20 set of DeWalt pilot point bits from Home Depot...they cut like butter and stay sharp

MacAttack 03-04-2009 06:43 PM

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:smoke: Well, that turned out better than I thought it would.

Band-sawed the rubber pieces with a super-fine blade and it worked!

Only had to do the two end pieces (because these pieces are jointed and relieved at the corners where they bend) that actually contact the sides of the radiator's tanks, while leaving the center part (that contacts the top and bottom) stock thickness.

Quickly learned that it's not good enough to just support the sides of a piece of rubber being shoved through a band saw, but after it is separated it tries to go down the 'rat-hole' where the blade comes down.

:lol: Put a thin piece of plywood under the rubber and cut it at the same time.

Bingo. And I didn't even lose the end of a finger! :metal:

Mac. :chevy:

jason65 03-04-2009 07:05 PM

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Thats great Mac. Glad to hear your kicking some a$$.

MacAttack 03-04-2009 07:19 PM

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Yeah - can't wait to get home and try them out. Just didn't want to do the hyper-press-fit on the brand new radiator tanks. Cut right at the base of the lead-in chamfers. These are the stock strips:

MacAttack 03-10-2009 01:43 PM

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:waah: :waah: :waah:

The C10’s radiator shroud kicked my caboose on Saturday.

The placement of the radiator itself (after cutting the rubber mounts and using high-temp black silicone to fill any voids) went perfectly, all without tearing up or altering the stock "U" pieces riveted to the frame and as part of the upper support piece.

Then came the "Chicken or the Egg" routine.

My initial fan (the one from the straight six engine) is a nice S/S unit, with an extruded aluminum spacer that bolts to the water pump. Assembled it up and put a dial indicator on the pulley: Within .003 - good enough.

Put on the V-belt and adjusted the alternator. Perfect. Thanks for the belt number, BTW. Tried to slide the brand new shroud over the fan: D’oh! Same size as the opening. (Don’t ask me why I didn’t check first - cause I never do!)

Had a smaller diameter 6-blade fan from the Chevelle - with another spacer (not pressed into the fan) so we put that one up and check the run-out.

Shroud fit with about ¾" clearance all around. Messed around with the shroud mounting hardware and had to modify the very bottom of the two pieces of sheet metal coming off the radiator support - to make it fit.

Now here’s the fun part. I put four ¼" diameter S/S studs in the shroud to hold it on to the truck’s sheetmetal, already had the radiator in place and bolted in, and couldn’t get the shroud back in place - with nuts on the studs, because there was no way to tighten the nuts on the inside of the shroud housing.

Couldn’t point the studs inward on the passenger side because the battery tray gets in the way - and there’s no way to get your hand in past the fan, because with six smaller blades - from the top or the bottom approach.

Again: D’oh!

So my next idea is to put studs in the sheetmetal, use large fender washers to spread out the load on the sides of the shroud (because every one I’ve ever had starts cracking at the mount holes once the material gasses out and becomes more brittle), with some silicone in between - just for good measure.

Yes - I know: Too much drama, but the radiator’s lower hose spout wouldn’t allow me to put it in after the shr0oud was mounted.

Arrrrrrggggghhhhhh! :sumo:

4dranch 03-10-2009 04:02 PM

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Dang Mac,
Sounds like a Abbott and Costello episode...:lol:

Hope it works out and if it does post some shots of the set up.

MacAttack 03-10-2009 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 4dranch (Post 3190183)
Dang Mac,
Sounds like a Abbott and Costello episode...:lol:

Hope it works out and if it does post some shots of the set up.

True Dat. ;)

I think I'll notch the bottom of the molded shroud, where the little hose detent is - about an inch in so that the radiator's lower port can swing in without taking the shroud off at all. Just have to stop at NAPA and get some 1/4" ID fender washers to make it happen.

Don't know how you guys are mounting your fan shrouds - but this is nothing near stock.

And yes - I'll get some pics of this complication.

Mac. :chevy:


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