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While waiting on the A/C parts, I (with a new suggestion from my wife) decided to re-visit the bed wood that came with the truck. And I've decided that while it isn't 100% "correct" for the truck, it will work with a small amount of tweaks. Here's a test fit...

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It will look beautiful

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Yes, it will be quite fine. The wood appears to be pine, with just the thinnest skiff of clear finish. The widths are all off by a bit, and 6 of the 8 countersunk holes are in the wrong place as well. I was planning to do no-bolts, hidden mount if I bought new wood, so by doing a hybrid bolts/hidden instead and using dummy bolts where the holes don't line up with the frame pads I should end up with something that looks reasonably proper.

I will have to drill a few holes in the cross-sills to match the new board widths, but actually not too many. Once I get that done and all test fitted, I'll sand the boards and give them 2 or 3 coats of Spar Satin Poly.

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I am getting ready to finalize my bedwood and put my bed back on my truck. I keep wavering regarding the bolts that attach the bed to the frame between the hidden bolts and the bolts showing on the top. I plan to assemble the bed on my stands and square everything up. I am going to leave the two boards that would bolt the bed down off till I set it on the frame and get everything set. I think at the last minute I will make the decision once I see it on the truck and see how hard it would be to get the wholes right. That is the part I am worried about is getting those holes right so the washer will work as it should. If I drill them in the wrong place and mess up all the work I have done, I will not be happy. However, if I hide the bolts under the wood, I won't take the chance of messing them up. I think it will be a game time decision.
Rob

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Yeah, concern about mis-drilling the holes was a big reason I decided to go hidden bolts. Especially since my truck is a shortened longbed, and I'm not 100% sure the frame mounts are in the proper places anyway. But this new direction will work fine.

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Still waiting on both A/C (arrival of parts) and bed wood (waiting for warmer weather for finish application), so I decided to dig into the front suspension.

I've never been totally happy with the front ride height. Too much rake, and not enough front suspension travel. So I've decided that since I'm hoping to build a truck that could be used and driven regularly, the front needs to come up an inch.

Today I pulled the springs out, and determined (by way of free length specs) that they are 3" drop springs. Which was what I'd guessed, but now it's confirmed. I've ordered a pair of 2" drop instead, and posted the 3" springs in the classifieds. Looks like the new springs should be here Monday.

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I noticed when I had the bed floor laid out that there was a lot of flex over the axle. Maybe oak would be stronger, but the pine I have is pretty flexible in that long span between the second and third cross support. So I decided to add a fourth support over the axle, and built it today. I haven't laid the wood back out again yet, but I'm sure this will make for a much more solid feeling floor.

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I also replaced the temp sender to the idiot lights yet again today. This time, instead of the horribly unreliable currently available senders (which all appear to be made by a single source), I picked up a pair of NOS off eBay. So far, so good. Although I can't test drive it since the springs are out, probably until Tuesday.

Temp sender thread is here: https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=842386

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Hi Arne, the frames are very flexible. Great work so far, keep it up.

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Thanks! Not quite the same kind of project as yours, but it's turning out fairly nice.

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The floor will be great.
It's good that you're so persistent with the temperature sensor.

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I worked on my bed wood this weekend and let me say the struggle is real. I didn't think it would be that difficult, but it was my first time working with the bed wood and redoing my bed. I made my own bed wood strips. They were not perfect, but they were good. I decided on hiding my bolts that bolt the bed to the frame. At first I decided for looks, but am really glad I did. My truck had been hit or backed into something on the passenger side rear. I had the bed apart to begin with because the back support was bent as well as the first cross sill. I bought a new back support from Mark K and did the best I could to straighten the cross sill that was bent a bit. From the outside, the bed side was in good enough shape. No rust, but there is filler in the back corner. It is going to be a driver, so I wasn't worried about a complete redo. I squared the bed as best I could and started to reassemble. Everything needed fitting and adjusting which I should have expected. But, between my wood not being perfect, the rear sill being a replacement, and the damage to the side was more then I realized it was a real challenge to get things back together and square. I also think the perches were shoved around a bit because I had to drill a new hole in one to get it to bolt up. I see why guys weld the cross sills to the frame. If I had drilled holes in my wood, they wouldn't have worked and I would have ruined my work. I got the bed on and aligned as best I could. One sides sits a little further away from the cab then the other, but it is the best I could get. Once it was back on, I could see where the bed side sort of bows out from the impact. I didn't really notice this till it was on the truck. When I was squaring, I measure at the front and the back and had the same measurements as far as width. Then I did the corners. But, I didn't take in to account the slight bow which would make that bed side a little bit shorter. So even though I squared it, it is probably not truly square. But it is on the truck, done, and I went for a short test ride for the first time since buying the truck.

All that is to say, that I struggled with the bed wood and bed aligning. I learned a lot and will know better next time. However, next time is going to be a long way a way.
Rob

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Today's update - Springs arrived fairly early, and so the front end is reassembled. Looks like they brought the front up a bit more than an inch right now, but I still haven't driven it to get things settled. But even at this height I'm pleased. It still has a slight rake, but not as pronounced as before. A nice amount of suspension travel before it hits the bump stops.

In lieu of a test drive, I did start and warm up the engine today, and the NOS temp sender worked as it should, with the Cold light going out after a few minutes idling. So far, so good on that part.

Realistically, all that's left is to apply finish and install the bed wood, and then the A/C system in a few weeks. Almost there.

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Bed wood is sanded, and the weather is finally going to be warm enough later this week. Will try to get 3-4 coats of finish applied on Friday and Saturday.

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Nice looking bed. I've still got mine in boxes.

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Multiple coats of polyurethane have been applied on all surfaces—top, bottom and all edges. The first piece is in place and fastened down. Should have time to get a few more down tomorrow afternoon, and should finish on Monday. It's looking great so far.

Side note—I did a little research and have determined that the predrilled bed wood kit the prior owner bought was made for '55-59 Chevy ½ ton. The board length is the same as the '60-87 short stepsides, and the overall width of the bed floor is the same as well. But all the boards are different widths than the later trucks, and the predrilled holes are all in a straight line on the older trucks, rather than the second hole being offset a bit as our trucks are. It really doesn't much matter at this point, just one of those things that piqued my curiosity.

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The bed is done. Not perfect, since I used wood for another application that has been beat up in garages for several years, but still looks quite nice and in character with this truck. Adding the additional cross rail was a big improvement, the floor is solid with no real flex.

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Which means that most of the heavy lifting is complete. I'm still waiting on the A/C parts, but that's really the last of the big stuff.

I'll spend some time driving it to find any bugs or small things that need dealt with while I await the A/C.

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That looks great Arne! Definately time to go out and enjoy it.

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Drove it to my afternoon appointment at the blood bank. (Donation #98.) Lots of waves and thumbs-up on the trip across town. I'm hearing a little noise from the speedo, doesn't seem to be from the cable. Not sure I can do much about that.

The new springs and increased front ride height is a good thing IMO. Ride is better, it doesn't bottom out any more, and I actually prefer the new stance. Before there was too much rake, too low in front compared to the rear. Now it is a lot more even, but still has a little rake. It looks like a truck that could be used as a truck now, instead of looking like a truck trying to be a hot rod (which it definitely ain't).

I'll take some new pics sometime this week.

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Ran a couple errands today. I'm liking the new ride height. Not to everyone's taste, I'm sure. But it drives so much better.

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I actually like the new ride height better. The rake was a little too much on the previous springs, but sits just right now.

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Yeah, I'm much happier with the stance now. It looks more "right" to me too.

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Got the shipping notice for the A/C parts, ETA next Thursday.

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The stance looks great now. What AC are going with?

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A kit custom configured by J.W. at Auto AC Solutions. The kit is based heavily on the same parts as sold by Old Air, but with several changes since I can't used the normal pre-packaged solutions. I could have got essentially the same package from Old Air, but J.W.'s package was more than $200 less.

The package includes a different electronic control panel as well as some additional hard piping to simplify the hose runs to the left-side compressor I need. I'm looking forward to getting started on it.

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Most of the A/C parts arrived yesterday. I found a small number of missing parts, which they say somehow missed getting into the boxes. Those are going to be shipped out soon. (Maybe today.)

I've got some house and yard chores I need to get caught up on, now that the weather in Western Oregon is finally getting nice. (It's been a long, cold, wet spring here.) So I probably won't get started for a couple of days. Will post progress once I get started.

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A/C install has begun.

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Arne,

Do you have plans to attend any local events this summer with the truck?

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Maybe, depends on how long it takes to get it sold once it's finished. If it is drivable, I'll probably have it in the Function for Junction on June 3rd. Past that, hard to say.

I note the bit about being drivable because I yanked the radiator today in preparation for mounting the A/C condenser. So it isn't ready to drive now...

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Good progress, is the electrical manageable or a lot of work?

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Going to start the electrical today. But the pre-assembled wiring harness looks fairly simple.

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The electrical part was pretty straightforward. Definitely something most people can handle. The worst part is that the harness is longer than it needs to be for our trucks, and I had to bundle and secure it up under the dash. I suspect the harness is universal and will fit many vehicles, not just our trucks.

I'm almost finished inside the cab. Just one under-dash vent remains to be mounted and hooked up. I'm not going to put the modified glovebox back in until after I can test all the electrical bits. And the battery and even the battery tray are currently out of the truck to make the condenser install easier.

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More progress. I'm using some adapter pipes to better route the hoses to the left-side compressor I'm using.

https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...1&d=1684543292

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Almost done with the A/C install after today's couple hours. The radiator is back in place, filled and the heater purged. I still have a little electrical left to finish, need to hook up the electric fan controller to the trinary pressure switch, and that needs a relay to convert the switching ground of the pressure switch to the +12v signal that the fan controller needs.

All of the other electrical tested fine, once I got the battery and battery box re-installed. Blower fan, electric heater valve, vent/defrost valve, and compressor clutch work as expected (with the pressure switch bypassed and engine off, of course).

The hoses are all cut to length and I will take them to a shop to be crimped Monday morning. I'm pleased with how the hose routing is working out with the adapter piping.

I still need to cut down the paper glove box, but wanted to wait on putting it back together until after I tested all the functions. I'll probably do that as soon as I finish the pressure switch wiring.

I should be ready to evacuate and charge the system early next week.

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A/C is ready to evacuate and charge. Probably won't get to that until the weekend as I'm going to be out of town for a few days.

Really pleased with how the extra piping simplified the hose routing. Much nicer than most left-side compressors I've seen.

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A/C charging is scheduled for next Wednesday. In the mean time, I'm picking away at small details in preparation for offering it for sale soon.

Today I replaced the speedo cable, hoping that might take care of a slightly annoying noise from the speedometer area. Won't know if this worked until I drive it tomorrow.

I also picked up a 78 amp 12SI alternator to replace the poorly chrome plated 10 SI that came on the truck. The chrome unit looks cheap and tacky with flakes of chrome peeling off, and there's no telling what its output is since all the identifying numbers were buffed off prior to the chroming. But it can't be more than 63 amps at most, and maybe only in the 40s. What with A/C, electric radiator fan, and electric steering pump, a little extra output is probably a good idea. I thought about a 94 amp 12 SI, but I stopped at a local parts house that is closing and doing killer discounts, and they didn't have the 94 amp, so I went with the 78 amp. Paid all of $25 for it, and no core. And I'm much happier with the looks of a natural, freshly bead blasted alternator.

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My plan is to attend a local American Classic show and cruise on June 3rd, with a For Sale sign in the back window!

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Looking good Sir!!!

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Thanks! I has turned out quite nice.