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glock35ipsc 07-18-2009 09:20 PM

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 
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Originally Posted by menace121978 (Post 3418947)

seriously though, i have made up my mind. im just going to need your guys help and advice. and if anyone has a parts list handy i'm gonna need that too. THANKS EVERYONE!! i love this place, Dennis

Looks awesome man! I have more part numbers than Carter has peanuts! :lol: I'm actually trying to seperate everything by engine, trans, hard parts, electrical, etc. If and when I ever get it finished I'll sent you a copy.

I still have not got anything worth while from LKQ, so I'm going with Certified Auto Recycling for the engine. I even called the guy at LKQ on Friday, and all I got was excuses as to why he has not got back to me. And he STILL didn't have a price for me. And I have also emailed a few other places and have not heard back from them yet either. So apparently the economy isn't doing too bad for them, since they don't need my business.

Certified Auto Recycling http://www.barbersauto.net/ or call 1-800-632-2091 ext. 14, Grant Smith.

menace121978 07-18-2009 10:29 PM

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 
i found a 2004 5.3/4l60 out of a burb in craigslist today for $1800 all wiring, cpu, everything 40,000 miles. going to call him tomorrow and find out more. thanks for the link glock i'll check it out.

glock35ipsc 07-18-2009 10:38 PM

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 
That's not too bad, especially for the mileage and coming with a trans. The 04 will have a drive by wire throttle body, so be sure to get the TAC (throttle actuator control) module and the throttle pedal itself. Hell, get everything they will let you take for the money!

menace121978 07-18-2009 10:42 PM

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 
:lol: were bouncing back and forth from each others thread! yes thank you for that heads up. i hope he still has the truck there to verify miles and maybe hear it run. ill find out tomorrow and let you know.

LEEVON 07-18-2009 11:07 PM

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 
Man you're really flying through this build! Good choice on the LSx drivetrain.

SBTork 07-18-2009 11:13 PM

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by menace121978 (Post 3419415)
i found a 2004 5.3/4l60 out of a burb in craigslist today for $1800 all wiring, cpu, everything 40,000 miles. going to call him tomorrow and find out more. thanks for the link glock i'll check it out.

im going DBW too, much easier to setup cruise control.

menace121978 07-18-2009 11:15 PM

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 
:) thanks leevon!! trying to keep the momentum going! pretty easy with this great cheering section of guys on this forum!!

RonnieTheBull 07-19-2009 11:12 AM

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 
The attention to detail is rediculous on this one :metal:...keep up the good work

JohnC 07-19-2009 12:13 PM

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 
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Originally Posted by menace121978 (Post 3419527)
:) thanks leevon!! trying to keep the momentum going! pretty easy with this great cheering section of guys on this forum!!

Oh if you ever start slowing down, or slipping on your attention to detail you know we'll be here! :sumo::lol:

80chevyshortbox 07-19-2009 02:08 PM

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 
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Originally Posted by RonnieTheBull (Post 3420040)
The attention to detail is rediculous on this one :metal:...keep up the good work

+100000. this build is awsome. keep up the great work man its beatiful. i know when this truck is done its gona be one of the sickest truck on this form.

nlped 07-19-2009 07:43 PM

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 
Great job, and super fast momentum.

menace121978 07-20-2009 09:13 AM

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RonnieTheBull (Post 3420040)
The attention to detail is rediculous on this one :metal:...keep up the good work

thank you ronnie!

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnC (Post 3420130)
Oh if you ever start slowing down, or slipping on your attention to detail you know we'll be here! :sumo::lol:

:lol: thats what im counting on buddy!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by 80chevyshortbox (Post 3420292)
+100000. this build is awsome. keep up the great work man its beatiful. i know when this truck is done its gona be one of the sickest truck on this form.

thanks man, that comment means a lot! to even be thought of in the same category as the "greats" here would be a dream come true! :metal:

Quote:

Originally Posted by nlped (Post 3420667)
Great job, and super fast momentum.

thank you!! going to start getting ready for the drive train so things might seem to come to a screeching halt...

menace121978 07-20-2009 09:15 AM

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 
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Originally Posted by SBTork (Post 3419519)
im going DBW too, much easier to setup cruise control.

man, i'm stuck on performancetrucks.net!!! reading the 27pages of the '78 ls swap and others!:lol: thanks for the heads up on that forum. lots of good info!!

JohnC 07-20-2009 11:43 AM

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Dang it man, now I have to get hooked on another site too! :lol: I'll have to check it out.

SBTork 07-20-2009 12:14 PM

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by menace121978 (Post 3421471)
man, i'm stuck on performancetrucks.net!!! reading the 27pages of the '78 ls swap and others!:lol: thanks for the heads up on that forum. lots of good info!!

no prob man, I was over there before anywhere else. It's a good place to be, just like here :chevy:

joe231 07-20-2009 01:03 PM

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 
funny thing......I went over to that site to register......well turns out I have been a member for close to a year :lol:
guess I'm getting old :lol:

JohnC 07-21-2009 07:51 AM

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 
You're slipping man! :lol:

menace121978 07-21-2009 10:58 AM

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 
:lol::but: i have a good excuse though.... ive been scouring ls1truck.com and performancetruck for info on this ls swap... lots of reading. seems as if 1badc10 wishes he would have went w/ a sbc because the 5.3/4l60e is getting expensive. i think he's had quite a few problems though... on a side note i do have a bit of an update.

talked to the guy w/ the motor and trans on cl. he said the motors actually a 2002 and the trans is 2004. so no dbw throttle... and he said he would give me a 4 month time period to get it running (warranty) but that wont work because i'm not just stabbing it in there and hooking it up... i have ALOT of work left before i even think of firing it up. i dont know what to do:(

swapping in the ls might be too much during a total frame off. i'm going to do a bit more reading in my book 'how to swap an ls motor into anything' before i start trying to climb back up that damn fence!:lol:

SBTork 07-21-2009 11:19 AM

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 
1badc10 self admittedly went about the install the wrong way. He had major trans issues for who knows why, one head gasket had to be replaced because who ever did the work before put the gasket on upside down, and he needed to get a stand-alone harness but he self-modified the stock truck harness. I know that would be a lot of work for anyone.
If it were me i'd buy an engine/trans/harness/pcm combo from one place. The best way might be to become friends with the local salvage yard and let them know what you're looking for while you start the body work and paint. Then once they find your combo, you install, send the harness out to get re-worked at a number of companies that do good work, maybe the same people can re-tune the pcm aswell. Your major problem may be the fuel system, you may need new(87)tanks or just a rear mounted blazer tank(87-91), use a stock sender and a newer gm vortec intake pump. I think you might be able to use your tanks with newer in tank pumps just like s&p did with their install on a 77.

Here is a link to another LS install from the same company. It's a full on show install, you would not need to do that much work but it does contain a lot of good info. http://www.hotrodlane.cc/PDFFILES/85...s2%20truck.pdf

menace121978 07-21-2009 11:30 AM

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 
sbtork, i really apprieciate your help and suggestions buddy. i'm going go visit a few places today and call the dang smog police... body work wont start until end of august but i can start on the fire wall and cab now...

SBTork 07-21-2009 12:27 PM

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 
Anything I can do to help. Once I get financial things sorted out im going to start my own build thread, I see how helpful it can be.

JohnC 07-21-2009 12:57 PM

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by menace121978 (Post 3423331)
....swapping in the ls might be too much during a total frame off....

I would think during a frame off would be a great time to do it. You won't have to change much of what you have already done. Everything else would be easier to modify with nothing there already. Just my .02

menace121978 07-21-2009 01:49 PM

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 
mentally and monetary:lol:

glock35ipsc 07-21-2009 03:20 PM

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 
Hey, did I ever PM you the list of parts and part numbers for the complete fuel system stuff? If I didn't, let me know. I can PM it to you or just post it in your thread so it becomes permanent record!

Then it will be staring back at you every day........ :lol:

menace121978 07-21-2009 04:38 PM

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 
:lol: yes i made a few copies too. but feel free to post it in the thread! its great info for others!

glock35ipsc 07-21-2009 04:45 PM

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 
Well then, throw those away and print this! :lol: I made a couple changes, like adding two different connection options for the filter/regulator.

* AC Delco EP381 in-tank pumps. $69 each at http://store.getgmparts.com/fe0114.html
* Pollak high psi tank selector valve, this is a direct OEM replacement (JC Whitney p/n ZX812705U) $83
* Fuel selector switch from an 87, replaces existing dash switch (AC Delco p/n D7089C) $11.50 at rockauto.com
* Corvette filter/regulator if running a returnless/1 line system (WIX p/n 33737) $34 at rockauto.com

If you don't already have in-tank pumps, you'll need sending units:


* Dorman p/n 692027 for the driver side, $94 at rockauto.com
* Dorman p/n 692044 for the passenger side, $101 at rockauto.com

To make the connections at the filter/regulator:

The inexpensive way:
* 3/8" female connector (Dorman p/n 800121) $6.30 at rockauto.com
* 5/16" female connector (Dorman p/n 800120) $6.30 at rockauto.com
* 3/8" x 12" double ended male connector (Dorman p/n 800155) $8.20 at rockauto.com

The "nicer looking" way:
* 3/8" to -6AN straight fitting, Russell #640850 (this one is also is needed for connection to the fuel rail)
* 5/16" to -6 AN straight fitting, Russell #640860
* -6AN to -6AN union, Russell #660350
* -6AN tube sleeve, Russell #660650
* -6AN tube nut, Russell #660571

And be sure to use a good quality high psi fuel pressure hose for connections, not regular fuel line. And use smooth stainless fuel hose clamps that look like these:

http://www.partssystems.com/images/T/fuel-01.JPG

menace121978 07-21-2009 05:32 PM

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 
Bob, you are the man! very much apprieciated buddy! feel free to post any other info such as radiator,headers, mounts, ect.

not sure which headers i'm going to go w/ yet. but 98-00 f body stock manifolds or shorties will work. i still need to call the smog ref. to find out what headers they expect me to run to pass. thats going to be the deciding factor for me... to pass or not to pass;)

JohnC 07-21-2009 06:19 PM

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 
Great info Bob!

Oklahoma 07-23-2009 08:40 AM

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 
This is the most impressive thread I have seen yet! Great job! I usually browsing the 60-66 because that's what I have, I came over here because I did a swap of one of your guys front ends into my truck and was wondering how to push in the new upper and lower bushings and ran across this thread, I'm most impress with your work.:metal:

menace121978 07-23-2009 02:52 PM

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 
oklahoma, thanks for the nice words man!

i have an update john!:lol: i got the steering gear box today! all painted and bolted up w/ new hardware. i also aligned the tierod ends so the tires arent so / \ bowed. looks good but i kinda wished i would have smoothed out the casting after i got it on and started looking at it. i know i got serious problems huh? i'll post pics tonight!!

just need to order the prop. valve and go pick up my drop shocks!! then its on to fuel system ordering (thanks Bob) and continue shopping for a "ls power!!" plant...

glock35ipsc 07-23-2009 03:28 PM

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 
Good luck on your engine search! I'm gonna plug Certified Auto Recyclers once again just in case you don't have any luck finding something local. I have been on the phone all morning with yards in the Denver metro area. So far the best deal I've found was $700 for a basic long block, and by the time he added all the bolt-on's to the price, it was almost $300 more than the one I'm getting from Alabama, which includes shipping! Craigslist and eBay haven't turned up anything for me either.

Hopefully they are more plentiful around your area! I did get a number for a place called RCS (1-800-259-4020) by member Jonboy, they are in the DFW area. Ya might try them too.

JohnC 07-23-2009 04:00 PM

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 
Rub it in why don't ya! :lol: Can't wait to see the pics. If it bothers you that much you might as well take it back off and do it now, instead of months down the road when you can't stand it anymore, and then there is more stuff in the way! I know how it is to be OCD on stuff. :lol:

glock35ipsc 07-23-2009 04:06 PM

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 
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Originally Posted by JohnC (Post 3427108)
I know how it is to be OCD on stuff. :lol:

LOL, that's the reason my 68 went the direction it did!!

JohnC 07-23-2009 04:07 PM

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 
That's why I'm trying my hardest to not tear mine apart that much right now. :lol:

glock35ipsc 07-23-2009 04:11 PM

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 
My wife said she is going to hold me accountable for the statement I made of "the cab is NOT coming off the frame on this one!!!'

menace121978 07-23-2009 04:18 PM

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 
:haha:

i'm glad im not alone... misery loves company! :lol:

JohnC 07-23-2009 04:24 PM

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by glock35ipsc (Post 3427122)
My wife said she is going to hold me accountable for the statement I made of "the cab is NOT coming off the frame on this one!!!'

:haha:

nlped 07-23-2009 08:35 PM

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by glock35ipsc (Post 3427122)
My wife said she is going to hold me accountable for the statement I made of "the cab is NOT coming off the frame on this one!!!'

My fiance was home when the UPS man came today and he had an armload of suspension parts for Bob. She immediately came inside and told me if the UPS man came again without a pair of shoes for her I was in deep POO. I ordered her a pair of flip flops off of Egay...:)

JohnC 07-24-2009 08:25 AM

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 
:haha: Good thing you went with a shoe that won't fly very well when she hurls it at your head! :haha:

joe231 07-24-2009 09:08 AM

Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado)
 
:lol:


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