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Nice work on that vice John ..!!...never thought about boiling with purple power...I like me some pp..
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I had stripped the doors awhile back by blasting the inner frame and DA sanding the outer skin, but there were rust specs that didn't sand off. I didn't want to blast these and warp the skin so I used Ospho to soak the spots, along with scrubbing with a scuff pad and a stainless brush on the worst spots. Most came off quickly but a few spots took awhile to clear up between scrubbing and soaking. I kept the Ospho wet and thoroughly rinsed the doors to neutralize the acid so there would be no issues with epoxy adhesion.
https://i.imgur.com/kfm4Qvbh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/GlP5M73h.jpg Starting to clear up. https://i.imgur.com/xhBvvn4h.jpg https://i.imgur.com/vY4iVECh.jpg 99% clear, one spot was more stubborn. Blasting the door would've meant spending more time on this spot with the blaster, so the metal would've stretched more in this spot than anywhere else, leaving a high spot. Acid with epoxy isn't ideal but I felt better about doing it this way to prevent warping. This is another reason I don't trust "rust converters" or Por15 type products... even with abrading the surface to bare metal all over there were deep enough pits that a spray on rust converter wouldn't have been able to penetrate into fully to kill the rust at the base where it's most active. https://i.imgur.com/ZOQ4EG3h.jpg I found a spot of rust through where a brace is spot welded to the frame, so I cut it out and blasted the inside the inner frame. There was a bit of flash rust from rinsing the Ospho off that needed to be blasted off the inner frame too. https://i.imgur.com/8QNX0Gch.jpg After light blasting I welded in a patch, then brushed on two coats of epoxy to seal up the inner frame and bracing. https://i.imgur.com/u320wdFh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ISNZZcKh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/s9PVzu1h.jpg |
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The rear of the door jambs had a couple layers that stuck out for a tab to hold the inner and outer panels together. This looked pretty terrible, and even with the planned carpet and inner panels there would be no way to make this area look neatly finished.
https://i.imgur.com/YMOR7noh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/xg2Evfnh.jpg Test fitting the area with a carpet scrap and panel board... it still looks unfinished. https://i.imgur.com/w8lPvkZh.jpg Flange cut flush with the jamb edge. This left a recess that needed filling in. https://i.imgur.com/LuWHsFxh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/3G6kWjXh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/zbRSZJ0h.jpg https://i.imgur.com/YigP4Fwh.jpg Filler piece formed and tacked in place. https://i.imgur.com/iK1zcRFh.jpg Layers welded together, filler panel fully welded in, and welds smoothed. https://i.imgur.com/qq7bOqfh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/VK9dnsVh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/WSGbQUYh.jpg Test fitting again, much cleaner looking than before. https://i.imgur.com/KvGkI0Vh.jpg |
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boy that carpet cleaned up great...and nice touch on the seam replacement..
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Looks great as always! Where do you get the little "glue brush" that you used and is that a one time use thing or can you clean it effectively?
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I started blasting the cab and the passenger floor had pretty deep pits. I remembered the other F100 having rust in the seams between the floors and cab mounts so I decided to go ahead and cut both floor pans out to avoid future problems.
Driver side- https://i.imgur.com/EE7uspkh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/FAsl40wh.jpg Passenger side- https://i.imgur.com/uiLnr21h.jpg https://i.imgur.com/GJnydQch.jpg https://i.imgur.com/X8mCnbzh.jpg Body mounts blasted. https://i.imgur.com/hYVvBOYh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/PY0qmQph.jpg?1 https://i.imgur.com/f9Bp0XGh.jpg Two coats of epoxy. https://i.imgur.com/DiDXV8wh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/9oF0wtmh.jpg Fabbed a new passenger side patch. This has a bit of a reverse curve in it so I used the linear stretch die in the planishing hammer to create the drop off while keeping the upper half completely flat. https://i.imgur.com/tVsppXqh.jpg More of the driver side was pitted so I bought a new pan for that side. It fit pretty well after a little trimming. https://i.imgur.com/lSmExgzh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/TBn6Jv4h.jpg https://i.imgur.com/my1jEJBh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/1tll86gh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/xNLJu1nh.jpg The owner had cut the top of the tunnel out to fit the T56, so I made a new taller tunnel. I used the Pullmax to add an original style bead around the top perimeter, bent the edges over, then used the linear stretch die to curve the front up. I made a template with the shrinker as a guide for shaping the curve. https://i.imgur.com/6cdElhbh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/BMP7tuKh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ey4gTzFh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/k8UCRexh.jpg |
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The original hand brake was deleted since it would be in the way of the clutch master cylinder for the T56. The owner decided on a tunnel mounted e-brake instead. I made a backing plate out of 16g on the Pullmax to add some strength to the top of the tunnel since the mounting area will see some strain when the brakes are applied.
https://i.imgur.com/X2sX365h.jpg Mounting the handle as intended left very little room for your hand to get between the floor and handle- even less once padding and carpet is added. https://i.imgur.com/E3IdcfFh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/WrOuZ7Jh.jpg Part of that problem was a gap between the last tooth of the ratchet section and the base where the release lever rests, so the handle could droop with a bit of free play between the base and the first notch. https://i.imgur.com/BNeaiDGh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/u1vqh22h.jpg I welded up the base to take up the free space so the lever can't tilt down past the first tooth. https://i.imgur.com/XYBDSoFh.jpg I also flipped the front mounting pads to the top of the panel to angle the handle up slightly more. https://i.imgur.com/zhsmBC1h.jpg With the mounting pads flipped the bolt heads were sticking up too far to be covered over with carpet padding, so I welded the bolts into the brackets upside down to work as studs, then cut the bolt heads off. I also shaved down the rear bolt heads so they'd have a lower profile. Compare the gap between the boot bezel and the floor in the last pic to the one I posted above. https://i.imgur.com/q9hISOoh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/vVI9EWKh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/oRJFuozh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/2JSVTTRh.jpg Reinforcement plate and tunnel prepped for welding. https://i.imgur.com/F6Njn4Kh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/RQ3cneRh.jpg |
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I needed to make a hole in the tunnel for the shifter, but the shifter was too close to the seat as it was.
https://i.imgur.com/3ZjV6Kgh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/MaHUo0uh.jpg Shifter assembly flipped around for more seat clearance, e-brake mounted to the tunnel, and shifter hole punched in the tunnel for a test fit. I positioned the e-brake lever so that the both boot bezels will line up evenly at the front. With the trans in first gear there will be room between the shifter and seat to easily reach the e-brake handle. https://i.imgur.com/d93cQ1Nh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/D0fdBnoh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/2nySGk4h.jpg The gas pedal is drive by wire and needed to be mounted. The spring tension is fairly high so I made a 16g plate to spread out the load on the firewall. This will also let me clamp the pedal in a few different locations and pick the one that feels the best before permanently mounting it. I'll measure the brake pedal location in the donor truck and mount the gas pedal in a spot that makes heel/toe downshifting possible. https://i.imgur.com/uBpEdm9h.jpg https://i.imgur.com/wy6p71nh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/e4plILph.jpg While the weather was too wet for blasting, I started planning for the upholstery. The tank is under the bed now so the back of the cab will have an upholstered panel. I made a 16g flange for the lower edge of the panel to clip into, then roughed out paper patterns of the panels and clip locations. These are things that are better to do before paint. https://i.imgur.com/ZsN0rgLh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/GN2NEZUh.jpg The headliner will be fabricated from aluminum panels so I patterned b-pillar covers as well. We have the donor roof's inner structure to make the headliner pattern from. https://i.imgur.com/I0RqTmxh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/PCU08FDh.jpg Edges defined with fine line tape and sharpie marks. https://i.imgur.com/8aRXi9mh.jpg Clip holes punched so the locations can be easily transferred to the final panels. https://i.imgur.com/rQ4VWsyh.jpg Firewall and kick panels were also patterned. https://i.imgur.com/m5VDurwh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Mls3uavh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/CWX1Ihhh.jpg I was hoping to have all of the cab blasted by now, but the weather has been wet on and off for the last week. But, contrary to the usual "blast with one hand, prime with the other" mindset, I like letting it sit in bare metal for awhile after blasting. This shows all of the places that weren't blasted well enough- humidity causes any rust that's deep in a pitted spot that wasn't cleaned out 100% to start growing again. These are areas that were pitted, and rust deep in the pits wasn't fully blasted to clean gray metal. It's not hard to overlook extremely tiny specs like this while you're blasting between the amount of area you're trying to cover and the lens of the blasting hood getting dusty. Letting it sit until missed areas pop back out then going back with the blaster to target those areas is a good way to make sure every square inch and every tiny rust pit is 100% rust free before the epoxy goes on. These spots were invisible immediately after blasting and only showed up days later. https://i.imgur.com/gQLqiw1h.jpg https://i.imgur.com/5NkUOi2h.jpg |
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I'm absolutely amazed as usual. Looks great!
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John, ,I've noticed those numbers have been all over the place for a fairly long time now
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Nice work again on this one John. Your skills are over the top and you do a great job explaining what and why you are doing it.
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I'm amazed, as usual. Your posts can be used for an instruction manual.
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There was a indention stamped into the passenger side of the original tunnel that needed to be flattened before I could start fitting the new tunnel. https://i.imgur.com/acs0siYh.jpg After using a hammer and dolly to flatten the indention. The flange needed shrinking since stamping the indentation stretched the metal. https://i.imgur.com/ZFBU492h.jpg Using a tuck tool to form a tuck, then hammering the tuck flat to shrink the high area. https://i.imgur.com/BuxgOPWh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ZPojRqwh.jpg The top of the tuck is hammered in first to lock in the tuck, then the rest is hammered flat which shrinks the area. This is after one tuck. https://i.imgur.com/GaDPSpTh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/CpAss9hh.jpg A second tuck got the flange straightened out. This view also shows the rear rounded corners of the tunnel that were later cut out and reshaped to fit the raised tunnel. https://i.imgur.com/nTPRB2kh.jpg A few vids on tuck shrinking. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkaCJ5gC3jI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUQghpUVohU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI-7lyaoiz4 With the flange straight I trimmed both the cab floor and new tunnel so the tunnel slightly overlapped the floor, then used a scribe to mark the trim line. The shape of the new tunnel and the floor was still slightly different, I'm guessing from stress in the original floor from the stamping process. I tacked the places that did fit up, then marked out a grid inside and out so dad could hold the dolly on one side while I hammered the other side to bring the panels into better alignment. I had to do a bit of heat shrinking to bring a couple of areas back into shape. I forgot to take pics, but the back rounded corners were cut out, reshaped with the shrinker/stretcher and a section of round tube in the vise as a dolly, then tacked back in with the front edge about 1.25" higher than the factory position, so I had to make a triangle shaped filler strip under the rear corners. https://i.imgur.com/JfH94IKh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/MWDZQ3hh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/035wSVlh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/h4VA1Fwh.jpg Before pics of the stock tunnel. The new tunnel retains the same basic shape, bead detail, and offset at the front driver side for more throttle pedal clearance. https://i.imgur.com/7V8RUbch.jpg https://i.imgur.com/cDr4Jnfh.jpg The fuel line hole isn't needed anymore, so I cut a plug and welded it closed. The owner will be bringing the clutch pedal setup soon for me to mock up. I'll work on blasting the cab and get started bodyworking the roof and rear of the cab until then. https://i.imgur.com/mPboTlSh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/H755dpeh.jpg |
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Really nice work on the tunnel John..!!
Funny you listed Wrays video...I've been watching alot of his videos lately..his stuff showed up in suggested viewing while I was watching some of Robert's videos..amazing talent...all of you |
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Beautiful work John!
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Boring stuff first- I mounted the cab on the rotisserie so I could scrape off the undercoating and grind the tunnel welds to prep for blasting. I planished the worst spots along the weld seams to roughly even out the shape, at least the ones I could reach through the shifter opening. https://i.imgur.com/7tkR39kh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/2qEvEUwh.jpg Never ending stream of dust and dirt. https://i.imgur.com/TLp6r3fh.jpg There were quite a few really sharp spot weld blow-outs that I smoothed out with the 2" grinder. https://i.imgur.com/cnwdcteh.jpg Ready for blasting. https://i.imgur.com/sLiJ937h.jpg I noticed a few small pin holes in the bottom edges of the cowl sides so I cut both out so I could clean up the inner panel with the blaster. These are reproduced now so I'll get a set ordered in the morning. https://i.imgur.com/DIc7P3gh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/hdBBG2ih.jpg Random small holes welded and smoothed. The factory punched drain holes in some of the beads so I welded those up too. https://i.imgur.com/3X6Bn6dh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/D7ZwR9Ph.jpg |
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And the fun stuff... the owner brought the hydraulic clutch master cylinder setup from Modern Driveline and the pedal assembly to the shop today. The pics in the instructions didn't look anything like the '66 firewall and the box was marked 61-66 so I looked up pics of '61-'64 firewalls, knowing that they were different. Seems like the kit was designed for the different 61-64 firewall and pedal assembly.
Instruction pic- https://i.imgur.com/3r7lX95h.jpg Wider 61-64 pedal mount with straight pedals. 65/66 have curved pedals and a narrower pedal assembly mounting pad. https://i.imgur.com/iEerOfVh.jpg This vid shows the problem with mounting the kit to 65/66 pedals and firewall. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeIGHAxHDiY This was the starting point of the clutch pedal, it was pretty crooked and the pedal pad plate was welded on too low compared to the brake pedal pad. https://i.imgur.com/GY2YxTnh.jpg A 24" adjustable wrench and the vise worked to easily straighten the kinks out. I still need to relocate the pedal pad. https://i.imgur.com/HKLE2qRh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/CpH3mjFh.jpg The instructions didn't say how far away from the pedal pivot point the pushrod mount needed to be for the correct throw, so I had to measure the master cylinder travel (~2 3/16")... https://i.imgur.com/WVCX01Fh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/wAIOIPVh.jpg Then I set the pedal up with a stack of shims at the floor to replicate padding and carpet, and I added a 1/16" shim on top of the old top stop to simulate a taller new bumper since the old one was flattened out a bit. https://i.imgur.com/nuRGumEh.jpg That set the maximum travel of the pedal. I found the point that had 2 3/16" travel and marked it- about 6 1/8" away from the pedal pivot. https://i.imgur.com/qn2pOlNh.jpg The mount area needed to be spaced over so I made a pattern and made a 3/16" thick strap to weld in place. https://i.imgur.com/6K9Z5cqh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/PJ52kHXh.jpg Smoothing out the welds with a carbide burr for the inside corners. https://i.imgur.com/bCHtESGh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/w3R942gh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Xno1ab2h.jpg https://i.imgur.com/6pR21uAh.jpg Firewall drilled to mount the master cylinder and linkage. In the instructions and video it shows the m/c being mounted at an angle which looked wrong, and the linkage hanging downward so it was more visible under the dash. I drilled the m/c holes vertical instead and installed the linkage upside down to hide it better. The offset bolt pattern kicked the linkage closer to the pedal assembly this way for less angle on the heim linkage. https://i.imgur.com/AEDrdqHh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/JJVT6QZh.jpg Linkage adjusted, checking linkage angles with the pedal in and out. https://i.imgur.com/CKsVrZ0h.jpg https://i.imgur.com/wIM97kgh.jpg Enough room for a ~10" booster. https://i.imgur.com/p60dGhKh.jpg |
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I don't know why I keep coming back and viewing this thread when all it does is make me feel inadequate.
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The owner decided to do away with the stock column and column mount and use an Ididit column instead. I cut out the original opening and welded in a smooth panel to prep it for the new mount. https://i.imgur.com/3JZnQebh.jpg I made a doubler panel for the clutch M/C to sandwich to stiffen the firewall and prevent flexing from the added pressure. I just freehanded the beads so it's not the best looking but it's functional. The Pullmax came with beading dies but they wouldn't work to make intersecting beads without flatting the first bead at the intersection point. I carved out a new lower die to match the original, but with a relief to clear the first bead. https://i.imgur.com/uUb1mozh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/yMDMnoPh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/wMurFogh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/xUJyKHuh.jpg Welded up some random holes, and smoothed/straightened the 90* edge across the firewall. https://i.imgur.com/BgBZMGkh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/jTdeprMh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/vneqbMXh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/QUnKoIhh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ySN2EZTh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/SuV6rwnh.jpg The clutch switch needed a mount, so I used 16g with slots cut for it to clip into. https://i.imgur.com/VrwUjP5h.jpg 16g wasn't quite thick enough for it to clip in tightly, so I dimpled the slots to tighten the fit. There are curled plastic tabs to tension the tabs against the slots. https://i.imgur.com/AGgVVrKh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Rpfuk67h.jpg https://i.imgur.com/6h243Njh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Ym3cf7Ph.jpg https://i.imgur.com/DAp9pS6h.jpg https://i.imgur.com/vz6nbgSh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/bJ1HOjwh.jpg |
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I got the cab about 90% blasted over the weekend. The owner came by this morning to drop off the new column and swivel mount so I installed it after lunch. I stuck the pedals back in so he could make sure the gas pedal was in the correct position for him before I weld the mounting bracket to the firewall.
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I'm sounding like a broken record. Just super impressed w/everything. The amount of detail given to the clutch switch mount....
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Awesome work, it's become the normal here. Thanks for teaching us some great techniques!
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Sigh, here I am, yet again looking on with green eyed envy.
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Is this thing going to SEMA :jdp:
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When I was blasting a pinhole opened up on one of the cowl boxes, so I stuck my phone in the cavity to see what it looked like from the inside. There was some scabby dark patches that indicated deeper pitting so I went ahead and cut both sides open.
https://i.imgur.com/0ZxwDDgh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/pMhFeazh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/8LN23Xvh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/omQrnsth.jpg?1 Patterns made and transferred to 18g. https://i.imgur.com/oiZw31ah.jpg I used the vice, a delrin block to back it, and a rounded over chisel to form the drains. https://i.imgur.com/ZjKv4LGh.jpg Forming the drains shortened the flange from the steps added so it made the panel curve. Before and after stretching to make it flat again. I also added an extra drain to help prevent water building up in the future. https://i.imgur.com/xA9CX2bh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/xoxtK50h.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Gf61Y2gh.jpg While i was working around the cowl area I made a template of the vent openings so I could make block off plates. https://i.imgur.com/sSJzKx5h.jpg The owner requested that I "clean up" the transition between the bottom of the dash and the column. The lower flange was oddly shaped and had a really oversize cut out to mount the column. The new mount on the Ididit column was taller than it needed to be so there was a large gap between the column and face of the dash. https://i.imgur.com/UdrvnNMh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/R77Ujlxh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/LgaGkekh.jpg The tabs of the mounting bracket hung down pretty far, making them visible. https://i.imgur.com/fq9FVNph.jpg I taped steel wire to the wiring harness so I could pull it back out of the way of the bracket area, then cut the bracket off and shortened it. https://i.imgur.com/0PLAjxJh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/TleQDluh.jpg Column back in place, bracket tabs no longer show. https://i.imgur.com/GBBcYRkh.jpg I made a couple of filler plates to finish out the opening between the column and lower dash flange. https://i.imgur.com/icuSWGIh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/lBGBj8Ah.jpg One side finished to show the difference. https://i.imgur.com/9Qpokwah.jpg https://i.imgur.com/9EOWCGfh.jpg |
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