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darkhorse970 03-01-2021 07:42 AM

Very nice! That’s the route I’m planning to finish my bedwood. I love this look!
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gringoloco 03-01-2021 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kronald_70GMC (Post 8886888)
Looks great. What exactly does a square drill bit look like? ;)

Thanks! It looks a lot like a normal bit with a whole lot more work behind it :lol: For these, I center-punched, drilled a pilot, then step-bitted them up to 5/16” (the diameter of the stainless carriage bolts I’m using). I then used 4 pieces of painters tape to ‘draw’ a square touching the edges of the hole, a fine toothed jigsaw blade to rough out the corners, then a triangle file by hand to finish fit the square holes to the bolt heads. PITA, but I’m too cheap to buy the correct $200 punch for 14 holes...
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Originally Posted by regan wilson (Post 8886938)
That looks awesome.

Thanks! I’m liking it, too
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Originally Posted by darkhorse970 (Post 8886939)
Very nice! That’s the route I’m planning to finish my bedwood. I love this look!
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Thanks Keith, it does look good. All black with just enough stainless bolt heads to break it up a bit. I’m not sure on the durability of the Behr paint though. I’m thinking a 2-part polyurethane hot rod black would probably be better, but who am I to argue with Mar-K’s test results :confused:

SCOTI 03-01-2021 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by gringoloco (Post 8887248)
Thanks! It looks a lot like a normal bit with a whole lot more work behind it :lol: For these, I center-punched, drilled a pilot, then step-bitted them up to 5/16” (the diameter of the stainless carriage bolts I’m using). I then used 4 pieces of painters tape to ‘draw’ a square touching the edges of the hole, a fine toothed jigsaw blade to rough out the corners, then a triangle file by hand to finish fit the square holes to the bolt heads. PITA, but I’m too cheap to buy the correct $200 punch for 14 holes...

Thanks! I’m liking it, too

Thanks Keith, it does look good. All black with just enough stainless bolt heads to break it up a bit. I’m not sure on the durability of the Behr paint though. I’m thinking a 2-part polyurethane hot rod black would probably be better, but who am I to argue with Mar-K’s test results :confused:

Exactly.

smbrouss70 03-01-2021 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by gringoloco (Post 8886823)
Would it surprise you if I said that the whole time I’m putting this wood floor together that I can’t stop thinking about how I want to do a metal floor... :crazy:

Not at all! I'd actually be disappointed if you weren't thinking about the next version of modifications...

regan wilson 03-02-2021 07:02 AM

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Since you like working so much I have an idea. Take an old tailgate and section up the inside of it. Then cut yours up and build your tailgate so the factory lines aren't cut in half by the raised bed floor. Hey you are the one doing all the work and we like to watch. Lol

gringoloco 03-02-2021 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by regan wilson (Post 8887468)
Since you like working so much I have an idea. Take an old tailgate and section up the inside of it. Then cut yours up and build your tailgate so the factory lines aren't cut in half by the raised bed floor. Hey you are the one doing all the work and we like to watch. Lol

It’s like you’re in my brain. I actually have the gate leaning against the wall. Planned to use it for that as well as using the lettering on the rear of the raised floor. Won’t happen right now as I’m running out of time and need to focus on more pressing things, but sometime in the future, maybe? It’s all built in my head...

fishingjred73 03-02-2021 11:43 PM

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WOW that bed floor looks GREAT!!

regan wilson 03-03-2021 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by gringoloco (Post 8887839)
It’s like you’re in my brain. I actually have the gate leaning against the wall. Planned to use it for that as well as using the lettering on the rear of the raised floor. Won’t happen right now as I’m running out of time and need to focus on more pressing things, but sometime in the future, maybe? It’s all built in my head...

Now that's funny. Bad thing is if this was 20 years ago I would have the piece to give you.

gringoloco 03-04-2021 12:00 AM

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WOW that bed floor looks GREAT!!

Thanks James! Looks better in pictures than in person, but it’s just a nice driver :lol:

While the rear tubs are off getting powder-primed, I started goofing with the hvac. Didn’t get far other than pulling the unit and enlarging the firewall holes for these billet trim rings. I’m not in love with them, but they’re definitely better than plain sheetmetal holes. Thinking of painting them my favorite shade of VHT...

SCOTI 03-04-2021 12:30 AM

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Thinking of painting them my favorite shade of VHT...
Scot approved 😎

smbrouss70 03-04-2021 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by gringoloco (Post 8888311)
thinking of painting them my favorite shade of vht...

YES!:metal:

fatbass 03-04-2021 04:09 PM

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You're doing amazing things with that truck, Chris. I'm in awe. Please never finish it. ;)

gringoloco 03-04-2021 08:04 PM

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Scot approved 😎

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YES!:metal:

Ok, twist my arm :lol:
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Originally Posted by fatbass (Post 8888579)
You're doing amazing things with that truck, Chris. I'm in awe. Please never finish it. ;)

That’s a heckuva compliment, thanks. I tell my wife I’m building my coffin; that will probably be when I stop ruining it...

gringoloco 03-05-2021 12:10 AM

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Well, the ac unit is back in with the bezels in place. Don’t look too close though, because the paint bubbled and cracked around them... Oh well, I don’t have time to tear the whole business apart and repaint the firewall, so on to the next thing. Hopefully getting the wheel tub in place will make it not so obvious.

smbrouss70 03-05-2021 12:13 PM

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The picture is dark, we can't see anything bad. Besides, I know a guy.

gringoloco 03-05-2021 10:43 PM

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The picture is dark, we can't see anything bad. Besides, I know a guy.

I assure you, it looks like butt. Oh well for now.

In other news, as if by some glorious accident, what was supposed to be a primer coat on the tubs actually looks pretty good, maybe.

I’m not sure exactly how I feel about it, but I’m pretty sure I don’t hate it. In fact, I think I might kinda like it. Plan was to paint them blue, but for now they’re gonna stay like this. For now. I maintain the right to change my mind on this at any moment :lol:

SCOTI 03-05-2021 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by gringoloco (Post 8889121)
I assure you, it looks like butt. Oh well for now.

In other news, as if by some glorious accident, what was supposed to be a primer coat on the tubs actually looks pretty good, maybe.

I’m not sure exactly how I feel about it, but I’m pretty sure I don’t hate it. In fact, I think I might kinda like it. Plan was to paint them blue, but for now they’re gonna stay like this. For now. I maintain the right to change my mind on this at any moment :lol:

My plan has always been to paint mine black & leave them that way.

regan wilson 03-06-2021 08:38 AM

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It looks clean.

gringoloco 03-07-2021 07:07 PM

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Glove box is back in, and along with it mounted the ECM and handheld. What this really means is that all of the under dash ac stuff is back in place and working. Just needs plumbed under hood and charged and the cold air will be blowin’ again. Forgot how much ‘fun’ it is laying on your back on the floorboard plumbing ducting, wiring, and cables...

gringoloco 03-07-2021 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTI (Post 8889152)
My plan has always been to paint mine black & leave them that way.

How are you always two steps ahead of me Scoti? :lol:
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Originally Posted by regan wilson (Post 8889220)
It looks clean.

Thanks! It’s growing on me

gringoloco 03-10-2021 11:39 PM

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No big news, but here’s a pic of the bed with all of the bolts installed and snugged down. If I had more time, I might do some things differently, but I don’t, so here it is:

Kronald_70GMC 03-11-2021 12:26 AM

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What would do differently just out of curiosity. Where I'm sitting it looks like you nailed it out of the park! Just a phenomenal job, it looks so clean!:metal:

gringoloco 03-11-2021 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Kronald_70GMC (Post 8892357)
What would do differently just out of curiosity. Where I'm sitting it looks like you nailed it out of the park! Just a phenomenal job, it looks so clean!:metal:

Thanks Kyle. I do like it and think it looks pretty good, but the attention to detail is not to the level I typically prefer. Given more time, I would either 1) cut my own boards for the outside edges or 2) use a flange to bolt through at the bedsides. There is an unsightly (and uneven) gap where the wood meets the bedsides. I also would paint the tubs and rear sill blue for a more ‘factory’ look, just personal preference. I also can’t shake the idea of a clean, painted (or color matched bedliner) metal floor. This will do for now, though. I need to move on to getting the front tubs installed...

SCOTI 03-11-2021 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by gringoloco (Post 8892457)
Thanks Kyle. I do like it and think it looks pretty good, but the attention to detail is not to the level I typically prefer. Given more time, I would either 1) cut my own boards for the outside edges or 2) use a flange to bolt through at the bedsides. There is an unsightly (and uneven) gap where the wood meets the bedsides. I also would paint the tubs and rear sill blue for a more ‘factory’ look, just personal preference. I also can’t shake the idea of a clean, painted (or color matched bedliner) metal floor. This will do for now, though. I need to move on to getting the front tubs installed...

Devils advocate.... The textured Line-X floor for my dually is always dirty & there is no wiping it down. And because of the 'rake' in the chassis, when you do clean it you're having to push it to the tailgate area because the drain holes @ the front panel end of the floor don't allow draining fast enough for the volume of water (dirty water).

smbrouss70 03-11-2021 11:35 AM

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I need to move on to getting the front tubs installed...

Get those installed! Can't wait to see them all done.

regan wilson 03-12-2021 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by gringoloco (Post 8892457)
Thanks Kyle. I do like it and think it looks pretty good, but the attention to detail is not to the level I typically prefer. Given more time, I would either 1) cut my own boards for the outside edges or 2) use a flange to bolt through at the bedsides. There is an unsightly (and uneven) gap where the wood meets the bedsides. I also would paint the tubs and rear sill blue for a more ‘factory’ look, just personal preference. I also can’t shake the idea of a clean, painted (or color matched bedliner) metal floor. This will do for now, though. I need to move on to getting the front tubs installed...

The bed liner in my truck always looks dirty. You will probably hate it you do it.

gringoloco 03-12-2021 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by smbrouss70 (Post 8892480)
Get those installed! Can't wait to see them all done.

Up next! ...along with a million other things around the house...
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Originally Posted by SCOTI (Post 8892463)
Devils advocate.... The textured Line-X floor for my dually is always dirty & there is no wiping it down. And because of the 'rake' in the chassis, when you do clean it you're having to push it to the tailgate area because the drain holes @ the front panel end of the floor don't allow draining fast enough for the volume of water (dirty water).

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Originally Posted by regan wilson (Post 8892875)
The bed liner in my truck always looks dirty. You will probably hate it you do it.

Valid points, both. Is that for black only? I’ve never dealt with color matched liner.

SCOTI 03-13-2021 02:02 AM

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Mine is Black. I considered Red for a nano-second. But if the RED faded.... It might appear pink & that is a no-go.

knomadd 03-19-2021 05:34 PM

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Wow, Chris! I've been gone for 3 months and you've done a lot. I love your build. I'm fighting home deficiencies from winter storm that us Houstonian's aren't prepared for, and a drivetrain update on my GTO, otherwise I'd be doing similar things, like the latches and door rebuilds...

Your bed floor turned out great! My plan is what you still think you want to do... metal floor with bedliner, which I currently have. The liner the PO used was a cheap one, so it's flaking, and there's some rust that needs to be tackled before I do anything, but I've considered paint matched, since everyone is right, a black liner is always dirty, unless it's brand new. Even my new GMC, which came with one from the factory, and now has a tonneau cover, is still filthy. Not sure if a body colored liner would be any different, just that it wouldn't look as dirty as quickly... Just like your current color vs a black truck.

Oh, and the color fading, like Scoti said... a non-color matched liner would look funny regardless of the color (light blue instead of medium blue?). But, pink would be awful... :haha:

gringoloco 03-21-2021 11:37 PM

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Mine is Black. I considered Red for a nano-second. But if the RED faded.... It might appear pink & that is a no-go.

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Wow, Chris! I've been gone for 3 months and you've done a lot. I love your build. I'm fighting home deficiencies from winter storm that us Houstonian's aren't prepared for, and a drivetrain update on my GTO, otherwise I'd be doing similar things, like the latches and door rebuilds...

Your bed floor turned out great! My plan is what you still think you want to do... metal floor with bedliner, which I currently have. The liner the PO used was a cheap one, so it's flaking, and there's some rust that needs to be tackled before I do anything, but I've considered paint matched, since everyone is right, a black liner is always dirty, unless it's brand new. Even my new GMC, which came with one from the factory, and now has a tonneau cover, is still filthy. Not sure if a body colored liner would be any different, just that it wouldn't look as dirty as quickly... Just like your current color vs a black truck.

Oh, and the color fading, like Scoti said... a non-color matched liner would look funny regardless of the color (light blue instead of medium blue?). But, pink would be awful... :haha:

Hm, I’ll have to do some more research before committing. Appreciate the positive comments. :chevy:

Made some progress on the front tubs: got the passenger side bolted in and fitting nicely. Also started the process of modifying the drivers side and after removing and reinstalling the fender and inner at least 37,000 times, I have finally got it fitting the way it’s supposed to and have the panel tacked together using my new toy. Finish weld, grind, and hopefully body work tomorrow, then paint sometime in the future?...

The new Hobart welder was long overdue. I don’t know how I’ve survived this long without it. When I welded the passenger side fender the Eastwood was being weird and blowing through. When I did the exhaust it would not penetrate and just piled up. When I welded the bed floor mounts it made embarrassing looking not so sticky boogers. Last straw. There was no way I was attempting to mod this fender with that “welder” after how it had been acting. The difference between the Hobart and the Eastwood junk is astounding. Smooth as butter, making all the right bacon noises and nice little puddles...

smbrouss70 03-22-2021 12:18 AM

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Very Nice!

Palf70Step 03-22-2021 07:50 AM

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:agree:

regan wilson 03-22-2021 09:05 AM

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That looks nice. I hear you on the welder thing. Sometimes I hate mine. But then again it could be the Operator.

gringoloco 03-22-2021 10:19 AM

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Very Nice!

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That looks nice. I hear you on the welder thing. Sometimes I hate mine. But then again it could be the Operator.

Thanks all, looking forward to wrapping this up. I felt the same way, like, did I forget how to weld? Are the settings right? Am I out of gas? Polarity reversed? Power feed problems? Nope, turns out it was a junk-a$$ welding machine. Not sure what happened, it seemed ok at first, but got worse with time. So happy to find out it wasn’t completely my fault and that I can still lay a decent bead.

regan wilson 03-22-2021 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gringoloco (Post 8897727)
Thanks all, looking forward to wrapping this up. I felt the same way, like, did I forget how to weld? Are the settings right? Am I out of gas? Polarity reversed? Power feed problems? Nope, turns out it was a junk-a$$ welding machine. Not sure what happened, it seemed ok at first, but got worse with time. So happy to find out it wasn’t completely my fault and that I can still lay a decent bead.

Haha I think I need a new welder.

lolife99 03-22-2021 06:13 PM

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Love the inner fenders!

gringoloco 03-22-2021 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by regan wilson (Post 8897918)
Haha I think I need a new welder.

Do it. Don’t think, don’t look back, just do. The last ten years of my life would have been soooooo much better if I’d just bought the good welder to start with. Not joking. Do it. :)
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Originally Posted by lolife99 (Post 8897919)
Love the inner fenders!

Me too! They are a ton of work, but the look is unbeatable

gringoloco 03-22-2021 08:53 PM

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Tack, tack, tack. Grind, grind, grind. Repeat. It’s a process...

PSA: Harbor freight $2.99 moving blankets are highly flammable :devil:

gringoloco 03-24-2021 08:33 AM

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After MUCH swearing, it is bolted back together. Not perfect, but it’ll do for now...

regan wilson 03-24-2021 08:42 AM

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That looks very nice.


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