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70c10-08 01-27-2022 02:01 PM

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GMC. A big name in trucks with some great little news. From 1982

C10 - C90 Bill 01-27-2022 03:21 PM

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That General is carrying trusses like I used to carry them on my '71 9500 Flat Bed Dump. And sure enough, once I got to the job site I would need to dump them off as there was very rarely any fork lifts available. It took a special procedure to get it accomplished and victory was to have them on the ground just like they were when on the truck. The good 'ol days, lol.

NewBayColony 01-27-2022 07:16 PM

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That General is carrying trusses like I used to carry them on my '71 9500 Flat Bed Dump. And sure enough, once I got to the job site I would need to dump them off as there was very rarely any fork lifts available. It took a special procedure to get it accomplished and victory was to have them on the ground just like they were when on the truck. The good 'ol days, lol.

I just had a load of trusses delivered like the General!Attachment 2162410

special-K 01-28-2022 09:14 AM

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I never see trusses hauled on the proper truss trailers anymore. Maybe because they are so damn big they are too tall, need to come with flat top to add peak trusses on top. The proper trailers had a single center bean with cross bars of steel tube front and rear. The ends of the tub were angled down, and once taken loose they'd get slid off the side into a stack. The framing crew would have to tidey up the stack to be stacked and aligned, unless they were ready to start hauling them up into place. The plant near here carried them on roller flatbed on their sides, with the peak hanging way out the side. I can't believe the troopers allow it. They hand off the right side farther than allowed off the rear. And those jockeys haul butt right on down the road. Real sketchy once off the interstate onto the local roads.

I would love to find an old S10 long bed 4wd to run. Wouldn't mind having a General, too but...

NewBayColony 01-28-2022 09:27 AM

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I never see trusses hauled on the proper truss trailers anymore. Maybe because they are so damn big they are too tall, need to come with flat top to add peak trusses on top. The proper trailers had a single center bean with cross bars of steel tube front and rear. The ends of the tub were angled down, and once taken loose they'd get slid off the side into a stack. The framing crew would have to tidey up the stack to be stacked and aligned, unless they were ready to start hauling them up into place. The plant near here carried them on roller flatbed on their sides, with the peak hanging way out the side. I can't believe the troopers allow it. They hand off the right side farther than allowed off the rear. And those jockeys haul butt right on down the road. Real sketchy once off the interstate onto the local roads.

I would love to find an old S10 long bed 4wd to run. Wouldn't mind having a General, too but...

This trailer was adjustable in a couple of places so that they could keep the height below 13'6". The framers had a Lull and were able to take them off and place them where they wanted them. The trusses came out of Canada. Most of the time around here they come on the roller flatbeds but they have to have an escort.

C10 - C90 Bill 01-28-2022 10:30 AM

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Hauling them the way we did, Height or Width was never an issue. On a 20Ft Flat Bed though, they were pretty long. Most trusses were 24's some 28's but I once hauled a set of 36's to a commercial job site. When at the site, the dumping process was to first remove the rear chain, change the front chain to a rope, then remove the 2 X 12 that supported them at the rear. If the trusses did not start to tip back on their own, you needed the give the rope a little slack, then go to the rear and use your weight to tip it backwards. Then go back to the rope and ease them down till the back side were flat on the bed. Then carefully dump them off till the rear hit the ground, tilt the bed down some, then pull away. On those 36's, once tipped back, then dumping them before they slid, how high was the top tail in the air? I'd be only guessing, lol, but you needed to be careful of wires and where they would land if they were to go sideways.

davischevy 01-28-2022 04:40 PM

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When I started making a living with a hammer and a square in 1971 my dad was building out a subdivision. All the houses were a basic 28'x72' footprint with floor plan and street elevation changes. We stick framed all of them.

By the time I put down my hammer and moved to the office in 1995, trusses were usually stacked because roofs were so damned high.

Dumping trusses is definitely an art.

special-K 01-28-2022 08:51 PM

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I've gotten some free trusses due to damage

How do you figure these were hauled??

C10 - C90 Bill 01-28-2022 10:56 PM

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Those sure are monsters.

NewBayColony 01-28-2022 11:28 PM

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I framed for awhile in the early 80's and we stick built everything except one house and I don't remember why we used trusses on that one.

special-K 01-29-2022 05:52 AM

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Same here, got away from framing at that time and I came up cutting rafters and building stairs, using a framing square for more than just marking wide boards for crosscuts and checking corners for square. It seems New England hung onto traditional building methods more than in this area. Not many true carpenters around here. It's the blind leading the blind. So you're building yourself a house? Good for you!

I never see truss haulers being escorted. It's hammer down and steal a lane if something's on the side of the road. And our DOT are a tough bunch. You might already know that.
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I guess homes got bigger to where trusses needed to be hauled differently. The only pictures I found of a proper truss trailer are models
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Back to GM heavies. Another snow plow :lol:

NewBayColony 01-29-2022 08:39 AM

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I found a side view.
I do know about DOT. Everyone *****es about them but they do us all a big favor. I can't imagine the shape of trucks if they weren't doing their job. Back in the 80's and early 90's NJ DOT set up in Port Newark and took about 1/2 the junk container trucks off the road.
I didn't last as a framer ether. I still suck as a carpenter. I enjoyed hauling cars a lot more!
My wife and I are building a new home. I'm finally gonna have a real garage. All on one floor where we can sail off into the sunset of life.

NewBayColony 01-29-2022 09:58 AM

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pacarhauler comes through again!

C10 - C90 Bill 01-29-2022 11:10 AM

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'68 Chevys hauled by a '66 or '67 Chevy Truck.

Cool picture.

special-K 01-29-2022 02:40 PM

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Like I said and meant, good for you on the new home build. I'm working at getting my place together before even thinking about selling. Then buy or build the next place outright. That may be the final place or maybe one more, we'll see. But my efforts are toward aligning myself with my final home.

That may be my favorite car hauler picture yet. I haven't saved any pictures you or others have posyed here, yet, because I'll end up losing track and showing them again. Maybe I should start a sub-folder just for those. As it is I have a lot of catching up to do on saving pics. Thanks for bringing all the great car hauler pictures here

NewBayColony 01-29-2022 08:08 PM

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I get them from Dick Copello. He has a Flickr account that's 99% trucks and because he was a car hauler forever, He leans more towards them. https://www.flickr.com/photos/carhaul/with/51809095084/
I don't know how I missed these loads of 68s. Also I noticed the tractor has a Chevy bowtie on the grill but 4 headlights. Probably an "Custom Touch" What is cool to me is the front tractor is a twin screw stinger and the second one is a conventional 5th wheel single axle.Attachment 2162944
He wrote a book about them: https://www.amazon.com/American-Haul..._at_pdctrvw_dp

C10 - C90 Bill 01-29-2022 09:38 PM

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Most likely another case of one brand not representing the other. Although with both being GM vehicles you would think they would let that slide. It's a '66 or '67 GMC with some kind of different Chevy emblems on it. The truck in back "is" a Chevy and no newer than '63.

70c10-08 02-01-2022 12:13 AM

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Not a semi but, an ad
June is Owner-Operator Month. Detroit Diesel Allison and the Double-O 92 salute you.

Bob B. 02-01-2022 02:18 AM

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Not a semi but, an ad
June is Owner-Operator Month. Detroit Diesel Allison and the Double-O 92 salute you.

Wow, where did you find that? The OO-92 was only around for a couple of years. It was intended to be more appealing to owner-operators looking for big power, and had a lot of improvements that corrected some of the issues early 92's had. They were painted black instead of 'Alpine Green' like most Detroits. The OO-92 was eventually superseded by the Silver 92 series.

70c10-08 02-01-2022 06:06 PM

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There is a page I belong to on Facebook that portrays to anything that has to do with the GMC general or their Chevrolet cousin the Bison and these ads popped up on the page

Double-O 92 A Special Engine For Owner Operators

C10 - C90 Bill 02-01-2022 10:30 PM

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Us non-Facebookers do miss out on a lot of cool stuff.

factorystock 02-01-2022 10:33 PM

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Double-O 92 A Special Engine For Owner Operators

The reason for the huge radiators we saw in the 80's. These engines, being 2 stroke require a lot of cooling.

70c10-08 02-01-2022 11:19 PM

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Announcing DOUBLE-O 92




The Detroit Diesels
Historically, America's No. 1 selling diesel engines

NewBayColony 02-02-2022 08:21 AM

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After the 6-71,s we ran the Silver 6V-92s. After 6-71's the 6V-92s were a big upgrade. They were quieter (Not hard to do) and more power. The best thing about them was they were very smooth for a truck diesel. They didn't even vibrate the mirrors. That is a nice feature when you are backing in somewhere.

special-K 02-02-2022 08:37 AM

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I get them from Dick Copello. He has a Flickr account that's 99% trucks and because he was a car hauler forever, He leans more towards them. https://www.flickr.com/photos/carhaul/with/51809095084/
I don't know how I missed these loads of 68s. Also I noticed the tractor has a Chevy bowtie on the grill but 4 headlights. Probably an "Custom Touch" What is cool to me is the front tractor is a twin screw stinger and the second one is a conventional 5th wheel single axle.
He wrote a book about them: https://www.amazon.com/American-Haul..._at_pdctrvw_dp

Thanks for sharing.

Some mighty fine Generals and Bisons

70c10-08 02-02-2022 04:42 PM

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Here is a sad sad photo of a General that came from Mayfield Kentucky. Someone who went to help out with the assistance and or cleanup of the area spotted this and, took this photograph hopefully it was able to be saved or at least stripped of its valuable hard to find parts.

KQQL IT 02-09-2022 05:02 PM

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Fb grab

C10 - C90 Bill 02-09-2022 08:10 PM

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Cool picture.

special-K 02-12-2022 10:30 AM

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'Tainer truck!

What time is it? 930!

KQQL IT 02-14-2022 02:10 AM

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Same green jimmy.
Said to still be around waiting for a redo

70c10-08 02-15-2022 08:46 PM

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Here are some screenshots I took on my phone from Facebook this business is restoring a Chevrolet Bison. Gotta love seeing those and their cousin the General being restored. :chevy:

factorystock 02-15-2022 09:18 PM

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This is how you deal with trusses on the job site.

C10 - C90 Bill 02-15-2022 10:51 PM

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Same kind of truck, same kind of trusses, but I would deliver them a little different, lol.

KQQL IT 02-17-2022 02:51 AM

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Betcha a 4-71 in it.

KQQL IT 02-20-2022 02:40 AM

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Couple more Jimmy's

KQQL IT 02-23-2022 09:29 PM

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FB grabs

C10 - C90 Bill 02-23-2022 09:52 PM

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A Gas Engine in a Long Nose? Wondering if that was really available. I've never heard of one. Possibly in the early days of '66 or '67? If so, I'm sure it was the 637 V-8 only.

Bob B. 02-25-2022 02:28 AM

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A Gas Engine in a Long Nose? Wondering if that was really available. I've never heard of one. Possibly in the early days of '66 or '67? If so, I'm sure it was the 637 V-8 only.

Yes and yes! I have never seen one or even a picture of one though, but that model is listed in the Data Book and brouchers. There were a very few 637 gas powered Crackerbox cabovers made, a guy on the ATHS website had one years ago.

C10 - C90 Bill 02-25-2022 09:54 AM

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Bob, Just as an update, how many 9500 Conventionals have you ever seen with a 637 V-8 Gas?

Also have you ever seen one yet with a 10-Speed Road Ranger behind it?

It's been just about 50 years now since the company I worked for took delivery on a JE with a 10-Speed and in all those years, I have never yet to even hear of another. I have also researched it pretty thoroughly through the years. Did we have the only one in the US, lol?

Bob B. 02-26-2022 03:15 AM

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Just a couple and they were HE series fire engines. Seems that mose 637's came with large Spicer 5 speeds but the consensus seems to have been they needed more gears. A 10 speed or 5X4 would probably have ideal.


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