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I plan on brushing it on over sand blasted metal. I know it's not from HOK. I will let you know the specs on it are when I get it. What I do know is it is to be mixed 3:1. Any advice or tips on mixing small batch's to be brushed on?
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Your local paint stores or even the online versions should have the paint mixing cups with the graduated measurement marks on the side to make it easier to mix.. After going through a couple batches you'll get the hang of how much is needed.
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My nephew Chris stopped by to help this morning so we decided to work on the roof a bit. Added a guide coat and skimmed across it with the vixen file to show the high spots...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture724.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture726.jpg To help keep inside and outside guys on the same page, some reference marks were added from the door opening back, on inside and outside of the roof. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture730.jpg Worked the highs and lows, and thought we'd compare it to the other side. Making a profile template to match the good side... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture728.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture727.jpg Shown at about 6, 12, and 18". We're getting close.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture731.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture732.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture733.jpg |
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Do you ever permit a complete stranger to hang out to watch and learn.
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Tips on making couture templates?? what tools you use? I tried making one out of cardboard but that was a total failure LOL!
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Just to clarify the process used for making the roof template....
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture727.jpg Start with a profile "blank" and span the profile you need to copy. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture734.jpg Using a compass, open up the span to insure it is wide enough to make the mark on the blank on both ends ... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture735.jpg Don't rotate the compass as you move it, this will make the radius larger than the original. Keep it "locked" pointed in the same direction as you glide across the roof surface, leaving the profile to cut.... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture736.jpg Cut with a band saw, jig saw, tin snips, whatever is easiest for you and most accurate. Test fit and adjust as needed. . |
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Thank you for this tid bit of info. As obvious as it is I learned something.
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Yep, I appreciate it too!
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Thank you for taking the time to show others like me how to do this. It's really appreciated and I've learned alot.
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Im sitting here looking at the blinking marker in this text box and trying to figure out something flattering to type.. I thought that I was starting to learn how to do metal work.. but.. I.. you are a true inspiration! That knowledge you have is priceless.. I hope there is someone in your surrounding that can inherit your skills
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Well, I started working on my 5" stretch cab '66 pickup roof skin project.
This is my second attempt on the skin. Before I read your thread my first attempt started well but crashed and burn. After studying your spot weld,planish,grind repeat I have a great start. Something doesn't feel like its going with the flow you have supplied the info on what to do next to get things back on track. Priceless! I have followed every step like you did on the '55 roof section. It is turning out WAY better this time than last. Planishing. I made some practice pieces like you did to show the full penetration spot welds. Learned how the metal is effected and studied how it moves. The way you show gives a guy a lot more control working the metal. Learned tons watchin. Thanks. You Sir have some, if not all, Serious Skillz Thank you again. |
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Glad to hear it helped! Thanks for all the comments guys!
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I understand all you did right up to the folding it over.
The outer skin was originally rolled over against the inner panel correct? but the outside edges of the inner panel were probably a little low creating the gap between the gate, so i guess you just placed a back up dolly where ya wanted the new fold to be? or did you also extend the inner panel lip as well? I hope that made sense.. :) |
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The inner panel's lip was left as was. I'll get some pics this evening of the tools used to fold the flange...
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Here's the tools used to re-fold the flanges. (don't mind the hammer marks)
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture758.jpg A mark was used on the front to indicate the new fold line. This press brake die was placed against the back side, and the flange tapped over. A flush tap against the face every now and then keeps the folded edge crisp.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture759.jpg That took the flange over about 90 degrees, then this modified gooseneck die was used to take it over to about 135 degrees... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture760.jpg At this point the gate was closed to verify gaps. A door skin hammer on the inside and a dolly against the outside skin was used to complete the fold.. |
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Worked tonight on building new mounting brackets for the 55's battery tray..
This bracket supports the battery tray, bolts to the core support.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture779.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture782.jpg This bracket spot welds to the bottom of the tray and bolts to the inner fender. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture763.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture765.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture766.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture781.jpg This bracket goes on the wheel side of the inner fender well as a backer to bolt through. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture762.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture761.jpg The tabs spot weld to the ends of the tray for the battery hold downs.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture780.jpg Now just need to finish drilling holes and weld the parts to the "new" tray.. |
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Wow impressive metal working!
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Thanks!
Had a bit of time in the shop this evening, so I worked some more on the rear of the wagon... I had left the outer part of the lower repair patch's seam of the lift gate (going through the bead detail) un-welded until the flanges all got folded, so tonight I got one side of that finished up... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture712.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture798.jpg Then the welds were cleaned up and some more tweaking of the tailgate gaps.... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture799.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture801.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture802.jpg Much better... |
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Got the tail gate and lift gate gaps done this evening.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture803.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture804.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture805.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture806.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture807.jpg Now on to some quarter panel weld planishing.. |
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Looking nice good fit. A few post back someone asked about mixing small amounts of epoxy, I have a set of stainless measuring spoons from the dollar store that are great for small mixes to touch up with a brush. They are easy to clean too.
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Thanks for the tips!
Spent this past weekend at Gatormeet for a metal shaping workshop. The first day started with a tuck shrinking demo, and showing the basics of the process and how the metal reacts. We also had the tuck shrinking fixture to use. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture810.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture820.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture821.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture889.jpg Camaro quarter panels are being fitted with gills for installation on a Firebird. This included fit up, trimming, Tig welding, and planishing.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture830.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture831.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture811.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture813.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture822.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture868.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture876.jpg The International farm truck had returned, so we were able to see the finished fenders from last year.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture866.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture835.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture836.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture837.jpg The rear fenders need reproducing as well, so the wire edging this year used bead roller dies.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture834.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture875.jpg We also discussed using hammer forms, and various pattern methods to determine shape.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture861.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture855.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture856.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture858.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture859.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture860.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture877.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture878.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture881.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture888.jpg Our new attendee this year learning some shaping... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture867.jpg Some rear corners fabricated for a truck bed.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture884.jpg Some practice at fusion welding using the Tig, here's the front showing some slight undercutting.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture892.jpg The rear side shows some good weld penetration in some areas and needs more practice in others.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture891.jpg Just to show that slight undercutting on fusion welding was not an issue in the joint's strength, the seam was clamped in the apron brake and bent to 135 degrees, with no detriment to the weld.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture895.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture901.jpg Saturday afternoon we spent some time discussing tips and tricks to help productivity and also to help open up to new methods and ideas. Here is a rotisserie style mount for a door, helping to locate it for ease of welding or other panel repairs.... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture865.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture872.jpg Another project that Gator just picked up was this Camaro. The previous owner's substandard welding attempts severely warped and damaged many of the panels where most of the exterior panels will need replacing.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture840.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture842.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture844.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture849.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture850.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture852.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture853.jpg Looks like a project for the next Gatormeet! All in all, an awesome weekend for sharing and learning methods and ideas.. |
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I would love to be able to attend a metal shaping workshop some day, i don't even know if they have something like that around here. At least i have some experience with shrinkers and stretchers, although don't own any of my own.
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How does one get a invite.
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