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hey evilokc, what are you working on there for a truck? is it an old truck with a previous to you injected engine installed? also, what have you got for a power plant and wiring system etc? in previous posts you mention tossing the fuel injection and running a carb with mechanical fuel pump but also having some spark issues and it sounds like maybe you have the wiring sort of rigged up so it will just start and run with an on-off-kill style of switch set up. do you have the original fuel tank for injection with the original pump still in the tank? is there a fuel filter inline somewhere line a stock unit would have? i guess some answers to a few general questions would really help us to help you figure it out.

-what year of truck (I know, irrelevant but nice to know)

-what year and style of engine, small block chevy previously throttle body injected or port injected, possibly an LS with carb and distributor

-what type of fuel injection did you have previously before the fire

-what fuel tank style do you have, stock in cab or under the box or something different

-is the fuel pump for the injection system the "in the fuel tank" style or possibly an "inline" style and is it stilll in the system even though you say in a previous post that you have installed a mechanical style pump now. also, what type of mechanical pump, bolt onto the engine style driven with a pushrod from the camshaft like a typical old fashioned small block chevy that came with a carb on it or some other style of mechanical pump

-is the fuel tank vented

-have you checked to ensure the fuel lines are clear from tank to pump and on up to the carb, no kinks, squashed areas, possible plugged filters, possible poor rubber line somewhere etc

-what are you running for a distributor and how is it wired in

-have you got a couple of pics of the engine compartment and wiring system that you could post

-after it starts & runs for a few seconds then dies, have you checked for fuel in the carb by simply cracking the throttle and checking for a squirt from the accelerator pump in the throttle bore. does it die because it runs out of fuel or is it like the ignition gets turned off.

-the carb that was installed, what brand and style was it, was it a new unit, rebuilt unit, used unit from a recently good running engine-not a unit that ran good before but that was a long time ago so carb could be gummed up-carb not tipped upside down in the remove/install procedure

-you mentioned in a previous post that you were adjusting the fuel pressure. what have you got for fuel pressure and have you checked flow into a bucket to see what gallon per minute flow you have with an open fuel line from the carb supply fuel line after the regulator. I mean if you disconnected the fuel line from the carb and extended it to dump safely into a bucket so you could check flow over a 15 second fuel pump run cycle



I know, lots of questions,but we need to know what you have before we can help you troubleshoot it and hopfully get it running. some good pics would really help as well as some good information on what you have for a system

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Cool mixture of old and new.:metal:

Brian

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Finally after many months I got out there and got this patch panel fit and tacked in. Also got some of the door gap to cowl corrected, but just tacked together.

Not much, but damn it was nice to get something done.

Brian

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i guess i should have added some kind of back ground. i just needed to vent when i started posting. I'm sure you know what that's like. i have a 1953 chevy 3100 with a gen 1 small block and a 79 buick front clip. i ran it on this motor with a carb for about 3 years and then moved to new mexico where the elevation made it very difficult to get the carb to work well. i added a plastic gas tank under the bed and a professional products powerjection3 throttle body kit. ran it that way for about 10 years. when i moved back to Oklahoma i started having fuel issues. i would get a lot of popping and loss of power. i kept working on fuel maps but the maps said my injection was running great. i was backing out of my driveway when i heard a weird noise and i opened the hood and saw fluid pouring out of the top of the motor. i assumed it was fuel but didn't know for sure. went to turn the truck off and it burst into flames before i could turn the key. the fire ruined some wires and the throttle body. i tried to rebuild the injection and was able to get the truck to run again but the ecm must have gotten too much heat and it was erratic and unusable. i found a really nice quick fuel carb and installed it. i was planning to run it off of the same electric inline pump. however i decided since i was going carb there was nothing wrong with a good ole mechanical pump. installed everything went to fire it and had no spark. that was just an over sight on my part that i was able to correct. then i have no fuel. i could fill the bowls through the vents and it would fire and idle great until the bowls were empty then die. i couldn't get the fuel pump to prime. i did all the standard stuff. i blew compressed air into the fuel tank, i verified the inlet and outlet were correct on the pump, i removed the pump to make sure the rod was seated correctly. everything was fine. i then removed the pump AGAIN to measure the pump rod because i heard many of the after market rods were too short. mine was fine. i also noted that the fuel pump trigger had marks on it from the rod showing me that the cam lobe and rod were articulating the trigger. i started looking and the reviews for the orileys fuel pump i have said LOTS of them are bad out of the box. so right now that's where i am. I'm going to return the "bad" pump and install a " good" pump hoping that's the issue. having driven my truck daily for a decade and now NOT having it for 8 months has been rough.

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Waiting to get my 71 Gmc K10 back today, traded for my 96 Cobra Svt that I never drive, was my favorite build of 142 builds now that I ever had, will post pic's. Happy day.:ennyd:
Mudman.

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Damn it, I am going to get back to my five minutes a day! Third day in a row I got something done, not much mind you, but SOMETHING! :metal:

Got the front door gap to cowl finished, tacked into place perfect. :D

Brian

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got the crusty ol cab off yesterday, swapping it out with the one on the right

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no title for the bad cab so dont ask :)

kicked it out in the yard as yard art for the time being, never know if im going to need any more parts off it

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besides having no title it was just too far gone, the thing basically collapsed in on itself when i took it off

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Yard art..:lol:

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i took my ( assumed) faulty fuel pump back and traded it for a (assumed) good one. i noticed when i removed the fuel pump that no fuel spilled out of the line. to make sure i have fuel i primed the fuel lines with my mityvac. so every part of my fuel system is KNOWN good minus the fuel pump. so by the end of the day i will have the new pump on and hopefully have my motor happily thumping.

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the new pump didn't change anything. I primed the lines before I installed the pump. I filled the float bowls and it fired and ran until the bowls were empty. I'm getting annoyed. my plan for today is to pull the fuel pump outlet and hook my mityvac up and see if I can get some fuel pulled through it while shakes cranks it. this is stupid.

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switch to an in line electric pump and be done with it.

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Found a post from 2007 showing how well Mopar's electric fan CBG4F250 fit the original shroud. I ordered one and it fits and looks great! Really appreciate 67-72chevytrucks.com!!!

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hey evilokc,
have you checked the carb to ensure the inlets are able to accept fuel? if the carb is empty of fuel you should be able to blow into it with a short piece of hose and some full cheeks. if you come up against a "no blow" maybe you simply have stuck inlet needles or plugged inlet porting in the carb. since you have checked everything else that seems a possibility. also, have you done a pressure/flow test of the pump by disconnecting the line at the carb (that makes sure you are getting fuel right up to the carb, eliminating everything else up to that point) extending the line with some flexible fuel hose and finally dumping the outlet into a container safely away from the engine? that will tell you if the pump works, if the fuel system up to the pump is free flowing enough and what you are actually getting for fuel delivery GPM and pressure. just a thought but maybe worthwhile to test since it would only take a minute. was the carb new new or new to you? (wondering if the carb has ever actuallly accepted fuel before and if there may be an inlet porting issue internally in the carb so you have no way to deliver fuel to the bowls. thats wht the blow test with some hose and a gulp of air from your cheeks).

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Got my five minutes in tonight. Fine tuning the door gap, I have hated this factory seam that had the 1/4" of lead filling it so I made a patch for it.

Brian

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MartinSR glad to see you're sticking to your 5 minutes. I have continued to adopt what I call "5 minutes for everything" this year. It has served me well. The 5 minutes last night was put into cutting out the floor of my S10 donor truck bed in the hopes I can put a steel floor under the 3100.

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It gets stuff done that's for sure.


Brian

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One step forward, two back. Went to install my sun visors. Found that bracket is slightly different and they are too long (should have trial measured). I think I must have grabbed a later model from a 62 donor truck I had years ago and used that as the template. New correct brackets are on the way and good news I am shortening what I have not needing to completely rebuild. Did get the shift boot, seat frame and upholstery, mirror and lower windshield trim in. Need to get the back window in, final assembly on the steering wheel, seats in and interior is buttoned up. Will post pics when done.

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I got out there for a little being I HAD to watch the Warriors tonight. Anyway, got the gutter shaped pretty good. I heated it with the torch and bend it, it works so much better than cutting something sometimes. I learned this out of the blue many years ago chopping a VW bug on the A pillars. It worked out so damn smooth, I used it on the truck A pillars too. But it really works good on so many things.

I did things a little faster back then, that VW bug, I had it chopped, start to finish, I am talking in primer, DONE, in one day, about 10 hours.

Brian

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Very nice...Jim

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Getting ready for the weekend. Been hacking and cutting the past couple of weeks to get the bed off. Sure hope I measured it right. I made myself a little jig out of 2x4 to get the 50" width all the way along the bed.

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This was from yesterday, forgot to post it. I wasn't going to spend so much time, but you know how that goes! If it didn't happen it would take a hell of a lot longer at 5 minutes a day. I got the gutter off, welded the longer piece on, trimmed it off nice, ground little here and there so it would fit better, oh yeah baby, looking good! And by the way, in this photo it looks like the door top sags in the middle, it doesn't, it's an illusion because of the different colors, cross my fingers, honest.

So that was yesterday, today, got out there for five or ten minutes I got some welding done on the seam I cut on the cowl and the patch panel. I also got a little plan on modifying my cab cart to raise the cab up so the floor can be sand blasted top and bottom and the firewall inside and out. That's something I will need to do as soon as the welding is done.

Brian

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Damn, good idea. Wishing I would have kept my s10 bed now.

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Went on a trip to Montana in Judith gap to do relaxing and to pick my new/old wood for the bed of my truck I really like the color it dry and love the grey weather look. I wanted to keep the wood looking old and original so I did some picking on an old house that fell down. The fun thing is the truck came from this town got to meet the original owners son and he gave me the history on the truck and I was trying to find the deal plate but he didn't have one but he gave me some stickers. Stay tune to how the bed comes out.

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Finally got courage up to rip out the bed. I still remember installing it back in 1995 and the "marine grade plywood" touted to last forever was long rotted away. I had sealed it, painted it and did it all so it lasted maybe 15 years before giving up. New bed will be Choicedek synthetic with all stainless runners, angle covers and all stainless hardware. This one better last as its the last one i will install. What a mess. Had to grind most of the rusted bolts and tear out the runners with a crowbar.

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This is an awesome idea! I want to copy it.
Post pics when you start installing it.

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Drove my truck I just got back 2 weeks ago, 3rd time owning it, last time now.
So great to have it back, sooo great.:two:
Mudman.

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Neat idea. There is a barn I pass behind my neighborhood that is super rundown. Just waiting for it to collapse so I can ask them for some of the wood. Hopefully there are a few good bits; I would totally use it for a truck bed.

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I had such a great surprise and a great time with my friend Tom and his daughter Michelle and her awesome son Anthony when they stopped by tonight. Tom sold me his 1948 Chevy pickup when I was just 15 years old for $200 paper route money. I didn't even have a license driving it home with a permit with I believe my mom riding shotgun. The photo of the truck with the flat bed was that day, the first day I had it in Dec 74. We were out in the garage with the cab from my truck chatting about old times, it was such a good time, such a treasure. I learned a few things and it was just a blast. The photo with me holding the very velocity stack that was on the truck in that first photo in my driveway! I don't mind saying I was a little verclimpt after he left, he is in such bad shape with parkinson's disease, damn it. Such a special man, they don't get any better than Tom, damn it!

After he left I HAD to get in my five minutes and I cut the rusted area out of the drivers side cowl. I wish, I wish so bad I could get that truck done to give him a ride. But even if I was to go nuts on it I seriously doubt I could get it running in time to where he would still be able to get in it.

Brian

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Sorry to hear of Tom's illness, prayers go out to him...Jim

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All I did was sell my 58, health issues forced the sale. Sorry to see it go but it went to a good home and it will get built for sure.

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Thanks, he is a good guy darn it.

Brian

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Hopefully you be able to see it with the new owner driving it with a smile on his face. That's always nice that it goes to a good home.


I got the bottom outer panel rust cut off on the drivers side cowl, and then I "drove" it out of the garage onto the lawn to sand blast the inner structure of course finding much more rust. It is localized so not a big thing, just a few more "five minute" stints.

Brian

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I had a conversation with my truck this weekend I told my truck that its close to being back on the road and that I would start working on it again by next weekend. I wrote out a game plan on my white board and will get to it soon.

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Been installing the interior small stuff, details in the build thread.

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That is much better than not doing anything!

Brian:metal:

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orrieg - what is your parking brake pedal out of? that may work in my '49

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74 k10, c/k10-30 are the same 72 thru early 80's. The stock stud spacing is the same as 58-59 hood hinge bolt spacing. There is detail in my build thread.
Make sure you get the cables back to the rear end. I am running a 74 rear end too.

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Not very exciting. Recycling center run today to make space in the garage. I did cut out the brake booster section, fuse harness section of the firewall and cut out the transmission tunnel. All wires are traced and gone. Sure hope I didn't need anything else.

Heavier than it looks though.

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From my buddy.. This made me laugh

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