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Ford Assassin 08-10-2012 04:26 PM

Re: How many 2wd Blazer do we have?
 
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Originally Posted by ksbrktracer (Post 5530115)
Has anyone done a flip kit on one of these....? Does it have to be notched....?

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Originally Posted by bagged74 (Post 5530124)
If you do a flip kit you will want a notch.

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Originally Posted by Hertzdaddy (Post 5530302)
X2

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Originally Posted by made2drag (Post 5530420)
X3.....no way around it.

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Originally Posted by BaggedRanger (Post 5530806)
x4 and I can vouch for the rear shocks sucking after a flip kit..

I made my own flip kit using another pair of universal spring perches welded to the axle tubes and I am NOT running a C-notch kit and I have yet to have the axle tubes touch the frame. I don't even have bump stops. During my 2wd conversion I placed the rear hangers 4" further back than stock to allow me to use 56" long springs from a 3/4 ton (with a few leafs removed), stock Blazers have 52" length springs.

I am not saying a C-notch kit isn't a good idea, but it might not be required.

bagged74 08-10-2012 04:46 PM

Re: How many 2wd Blazer do we have?
 
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Originally Posted by Ford Assassin (Post 5532606)
I made my own flip kit using another pair of universal spring perches welded to the axle tubes and I am NOT running a C-notch kit and I have yet to have the axle tubes touch the frame. I don't even have bump stops. During my 2wd conversion I placed the rear hangers 4" further back than stock to allow me to use 56" long springs from a 3/4 ton (with a few leafs removed), stock Blazers have 52" length springs.

I am not saying a C-notch kit isn't a good idea, but it might not be required.

That's very good info, but that wasn't really what he was asking. If you just flip the rear end. You WILL need a c notch. If you raise it back a couple of inches somehow, then you might get by without the notch.
Your blazer looks awesome btw.
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Ford Assassin 08-10-2012 04:55 PM

Re: How many 2wd Blazer do we have?
 
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Originally Posted by bagged74 (Post 5532641)
That's very good info, but that wasn't really what he was asking. If you just flip the rear end. You WILL need a c notch. If you raise it back a couple of inches somehow, then you might get by without the notch.

Not meaning to argue dude, but he asked if he needed a c-notch after a flip kit. How is that not what he is asking?

I answered no because I have an axle flip AND I do not have a c-notch and it works just fine (its my daily-driver too).

It all depends on his rear springs if they are already sagging from age and/or if they have been replaced with a higher spring rate spring pack, yet the ride height was unchanged.

bagged74 08-10-2012 06:08 PM

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You also don't have stock springs. It's like comparing apples to oranges. I'm not trying to argue either, but I guarantee if you flip the axle on a blazer with stock springs you will need a notch. Which is what he asked.
Just would hate for someone to go to the trouble to do a flip kit thinking that he could use it without a notch, then have to change more parts to get it to a point where it would work.
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BaggedRanger 08-10-2012 06:46 PM

Re: How many 2wd Blazer do we have?
 
Not only that but if your springs are 4" longer than that will give you more of a arch than a smaller spring which will be flatter thus closer to the frame rails.

Even with a notch my axle tube hits frame rails on a decent bump.. That is another reason why I'm in the process of getting parts to bag the truck. I need a larger notch and since I need to cut th e floor anyways might as well go all the way..

Ford Assassin 08-10-2012 07:08 PM

Re: How many 2wd Blazer do we have?
 
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Originally Posted by BaggedRanger (Post 5532799)
Not only that but if your springs are 4" longer than that will give you more of a arch than a smaller spring which will be flatter thus closer to the frame rails.

Dude, a 4" longer top leaf doesn't do ANYTHING to the ride height of the truck or give the suspension any more leway before the axle hits the frame if the arch is the same as a shorter spring (which in my case the 56" top spring had LESS of a arch than the factory 52" top spring).

The only advantage in my case for the longer top spring is a little more stiffness while actaully providing a better ride quality which is why GM switched ALL full size trucks to a rear 56" top spring with the new body style in '88 ('92 on K5/Burbs).
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bagged74 08-10-2012 07:16 PM

Re: How many 2wd Blazer do we have?
 
A longer spring generally will lift the truck because the shackle has to rotate back further. Causing the pivot to be lower in relation to the frame. Causing the truck to sit higher.
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Ford Assassin 08-10-2012 07:24 PM

Re: How many 2wd Blazer do we have?
 
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Originally Posted by bagged74 (Post 5532853)
A longer spring generally will lift the truck because the shackle has to rotate back further. Causing the pivot to be lower in relation to the frame. Causing the truck to sit higher.
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Umm. I guess you missed the part in my original reply (above) where alI stated I MOVED THE REAR HANGERS 4" BACK ON THE FRAME. So the shackles are exactly where they should be when the truck is at its resting ride height.

This isn't my first rodeo.
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bagged74 08-10-2012 07:35 PM

Re: How many 2wd Blazer do we have?
 
You are correct. I did miss that. But that even furthermore enforces th point I was trying to make. Your blazer is nothing like his. Different length springs and relocated hangers.
And it isn't my first rodeo either I've had 10 square body 2wd blazers. 6 of those had flip kits, so in response to the question that was asked, Yes you will need a notch.......unless you want to change a bunch of stufff, in which case you may not need it. But if you put on a 6" suspension lift you won't need one either, but that wasn't the question was it?
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made2drag 08-11-2012 09:46 AM

Re: How many 2wd Blazer do we have?
 
ok, i have a 78 2wd blz and i pulled 2 leafs. it gave me 4 inches of drop and put me on the bump stops. i took the bumpstops out and i have 2 1/2 inches before i hit frame. if a flip gives you 5 inches of drop then that would leave 1 1/2 inches. now that may be enough clearance to drive it IF the shocks have been addressed angle wise and shorter shocks (like putting front shocks in the rear) were put in...and deal with an occasional bottom out and hit to the frame. if you have nicer roads in your area then this would cause you to think you dont need a c-notch.


if you havent addressed the shock issue, there is no way it's not going to hit as your leafsprings are going to bounce so much that it will touch on big bumps. to the guy who is asking....do the flip and install some extenders with stock front shocks and you might be ok, but make sure you can do the c-notch install if you need to later, cause chances are you'll end up wanting one.

made2drag 08-11-2012 09:57 AM

Re: How many 2wd Blazer do we have?
 
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Originally Posted by Ford Assassin (Post 5532867)
Umm. I guess you missed the part in my original reply (above) where alI stated I MOVED THE REAR HANGERS 4" BACK ON THE FRAME. So the shackles are exactly where they should be when the truck is at its resting ride height.

This isn't my first rodeo.
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to clear this up...the best way to find out how much drop you have is to measure the center of your axle (center of the wheel) to the bottom of the rear fender well opening.

mine has a 4 inch drop and i measure 13 inches from fender well opening to center of my axle.

ford assassin, if you measure 12 inches, than you have a 5 inch drop which i would consider close to the drop of a flip on stock equiptment.

mine never hits with a 4 inch drop but if i went 5 i would probably hit going over railroad tracks...

keep in mind, these are blazers and 2 or 3 people in the back seat will definitely hit axle with a flip!

made2drag 08-11-2012 09:59 AM

Re: How many 2wd Blazer do we have?
 
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Originally Posted by bagged74 (Post 5532853)
A longer spring generally will lift the truck because the shackle has to rotate back further. Causing the pivot to be lower in relation to the frame. Causing the truck to sit higher.
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i agree, im thinking he is at a 4 inch drop

ben.peterson 11-27-2012 05:45 PM

Re: How many 2wd Blazer do we have?
 
Alright... I'll bite. Long time lurker, but I picked this up about a year ago... Have been busy dealing with electrical issues on it/tuning it up, but will either be bagged or convert the static drop to coil overs in the future with an LS drivetrain :). Factory 2wd 77 - Mild 350, 700R4 - working factory A/C. Lifetime AZ truck, so minimal rust... and yes, all of the moldings/handles/side marker lamps have been shaved and airbrushed back on by the previous owner. (plans to change that are in the future):
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...59932877_n.jpg
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...86469797_n.jpg
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...66105884_n.jpg
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...82468741_n.jpg

68Timber 11-27-2012 08:49 PM

Re: How many 2wd Blazer do we have?
 
Good looking truck. Any pics of the interior?

lolife99 11-27-2012 09:00 PM

Re: How many 2wd Blazer do we have?
 
Good looking '77!!!

ben.peterson 11-27-2012 09:11 PM

Re: How many 2wd Blazer do we have?
 
Thanks guys! Interior was gutted by p/o and was in the beginning stages of being covered in dynomat. It did come with a rear seat not installed and 2 sets of bucket seats (tall backs are from a thunderbird i believe.. and the low backs are from a 75 suburban if i'm not mistaken).
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...78568740_n.jpg
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...81333432_n.jpg
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...36114484_n.jpg
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...88268118_n.jpg
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...49553131_n.jpg

and here is the rats nest of an engine bay in case you're curious.. i've been working on cleaning this up
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...37285970_n.jpg

OutlawDrifter 11-27-2012 09:21 PM

Re: How many 2wd Blazer do we have?
 
ben, i saw your ride on craigslist this summer before i bought my 82. looks like a great one to start with....were you trying to sell?

ben.peterson 11-27-2012 09:26 PM

Re: How many 2wd Blazer do we have?
 
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Originally Posted by OutlawDrifter (Post 5726814)
ben, i saw your ride on craigslist this summer before i bought my 82. looks like a great one to start with....were you trying to sell?

I was... had my eye on another toy that I thought i needed, but I ended up deciding on just keeping the blazer, finishing it.. and driving the **** out of it :devil:

68Timber 11-27-2012 09:42 PM

Re: How many 2wd Blazer do we have?
 
I don't know about you, but I'd be stoked to have the body done and get to finish out the interior in the color and style you want. What are your plans for it? Red/blue/tan/black? Red?:lol:

ben.peterson 11-27-2012 09:48 PM

Re: How many 2wd Blazer do we have?
 
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Originally Posted by BRUISER (Post 5726866)
I don't know about you, but I'd be stoked to have the body done and get to finish out the interior in the color and style you want. What are your plans for it? Red/blue/tan/black? Red?:lol:

LOL.. I am pretty stoked about that... although I would eventually like to go a different route with the paintwork (probably gloss black)... but with the interior I keep changing my mind from black/red to just black... I'm trying to keep my toy ADD in check.. haha

68Timber 11-27-2012 10:07 PM

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Two-tone red/black? All red is loud, for the longest time I didn't like it but have come to love it. It shows well, you can see all the detail better when it's finished out. Whatever you do, keep us posted, beautiful truck.

ben.peterson 11-27-2012 10:21 PM

Re: How many 2wd Blazer do we have?
 
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Originally Posted by BRUISER (Post 5726948)
Two-tone red/black? All red is loud, for the longest time I didn't like it but have come to love it. It shows well, you can see all the detail better when it's finished out. Whatever you do, keep us posted, beautiful truck.

Thanks man! I wasn't a fan of Red/Black until I bought my STS-V.. .and I can't get it out of my mind ever since.. lol
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...2_627319_n.jpg
(picture doesn't do it justice).

I will probably start a build thread eventually.. right now i just have the pictures of when i bought it, and some pictures of me pulling out all of the excess wiring/dual battery setup.

Thanks again for the kind words!

ol'blazer 11-28-2012 11:59 PM

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[IMG]http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/...8E11FCE408.jpg[/IMG]
here is my work in progress!

UKNOWME 11-29-2012 08:55 PM

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Don't think I've posting in this thread yet. He's my 78 Jimmy 2wd I swapped with another forum member. It's still a long way from finished but it's on hold currenty while I'm building my 80 C10

68Timber 11-29-2012 10:34 PM

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I don't remember who owned that truck. It looks great. Details?

BlazerGirl90 11-30-2012 10:21 PM

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Here's a pic of the 1982 Jimmy 2wd we bought in North Carolina in the spring. Apparently a couple years ago it was two tone silver and blue. The 22's are growing on us. Third pic is the Jimmy beside my lifted Blazer.

bdiamond 12-02-2012 03:59 PM

Re: How many 2wd Blazer do we have?
 
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Originally Posted by bagged74 (Post 5532882)
You are correct. I did miss that. But that even furthermore enforces th point I was trying to make. Your blazer is nothing like his. Different length springs and relocated hangers.
And it isn't my first rodeo either I've had 10 square body 2wd blazers. 6 of those had flip kits, so in response to the question that was asked, Yes you will need a notch.......unless you want to change a bunch of stufff, in which case you may not need it. But if you put on a 6" suspension lift you won't need one either, but that wasn't the question was it?
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He said he did a 2wd conversion. The 2wd and 4wd have different hangers both at the front and rear of the leaf spring. They are about 2-3" longer ( hang lower) on the 4wd so a flip would net you 2-3" less than a comparable 2wd setup. So he may get by without a notch.

Ford Assassin 12-02-2012 04:04 PM

Re: How many 2wd Blazer do we have?
 
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Originally Posted by bdiamond (Post 5735705)
He said he did a 2wd conversion. The 2wd and 4wd have different hangers both at the front and rear of the leaf spring. They are about 2-3" longer ( hang lower) on the 4wd so a flip would net you 2-3" less than a comparable 2wd setup. So he may get by without a notch.

I used 2wd hangers dude.

made2drag 12-02-2012 08:17 PM

Re: How many 2wd Blazer do we have?
 
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Originally Posted by ben.peterson (Post 5726365)
Alright... I'll bite. Long time lurker, but I picked this up about a year ago... Have been busy dealing with electrical issues on it/tuning it up, but will either be bagged or convert the static drop to coil overs in the future with an LS drivetrain :). Factory 2wd 77 - Mild 350, 700R4 - working factory A/C. Lifetime AZ truck, so minimal rust... and yes, all of the moldings/handles/side marker lamps have been shaved and airbrushed back on by the previous owner. (plans to change that are in the future):
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...59932877_n.jpg
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...86469797_n.jpg
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...66105884_n.jpg
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...82468741_n.jpg


love your blz! id probably spray over the handles and drip rail airbrushing and ride it like that...i think the rest of the airbrushing looks sweet!

bdiamond 12-02-2012 08:29 PM

Re: How many 2wd Blazer do we have?
 
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I always thought it would be cool to fill the blinkers and run 83-87 style behind the grill blinkers. Never seen it done though...

ben.peterson 12-03-2012 01:49 PM

Re: How many 2wd Blazer do we have?
 
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Originally Posted by made2drag (Post 5736125)
love your blz! id probably spray over the handles and drip rail airbrushing and ride it like that...i think the rest of the airbrushing looks sweet!

Thanks! I will most likely end up doing just that. - At least for the foreseeable future :). I would love the gloss black, but this is worth keeping until I happen to have a bunch of cash that I can't seem to find anything else to do with it.

xxlf250 12-03-2012 05:58 PM

Re: How many 2wd Blazers do we have?
 
this is my 86 4wd converted to 2wd

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d8...groundedk5.jpg

made2drag 12-03-2012 06:43 PM

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oh mannnnn!!!! need more pics!!!! thats killer!!!!

made2drag 12-03-2012 06:46 PM

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found your build...cool blz!

xxlf250 12-03-2012 07:27 PM

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thanks its a work in progress

lolife99 12-04-2012 07:30 PM

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One of my favorite 2wd blazers from the shows this year,...

blckbety80 12-04-2012 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by xxlf250 (Post 5737944)
thanks its a work in progress

you got anymore pics besides whats on your build thread im in the process of starting a conversion myself and would like to see more in detail how you went about it looks killer man.

68Timber 12-04-2012 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by lolife99 (Post 5740004)
One of my favorite 2wd blazers from the shows this year,...

Sorry for the sidebar, Keith do you know what years that grill was offered? That looks like a '77, I have that grill on my '79 but I bought it so long ago I don't recall how it was advertised.

lolife99 12-04-2012 08:12 PM

Re: How many 2wd Blazers do we have?
 
The blazer appears to be a '77.
I'm not sure about the grille.

xxlf250 12-04-2012 08:20 PM

Re: How many 2wd Blazers do we have?
 
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Originally Posted by blckbety80 (Post 5740019)
you got anymore pics besides whats on your build thread im in the process of starting a conversion myself and would like to see more in detail how you went about it looks killer man.

pm'ed you


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