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LostMy65 03-22-2012 10:52 AM

Re: Lost My 65
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by clemdaddy (Post 5267733)
ditto...
gonna follow along for the ride.
and adding my congrats for successfully finding the old obsession and making it a new one.

Thank you.

I am so anxious to really get going on this.
I have my 6 lug discs and drop spindles and such on order.
Once those arrive I'll start a build thread.
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66-PMD-GMC 03-22-2012 12:04 PM

Re: Lost My 65
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dino Driver (Post 5267389)
I'm surprised to see this rear axle in your '65, I thought they were all 12 bolts by '65. It's the same 10 bolt that my '60 had and I have been told by many sources to get rid of it....FAST. I am putting a 12 bolt in with 3.73 gears.

Unless you are going with a high output motor, that rear end is more than adequate for a cruzer...
My neighbor has a 62 with that same rear diff that went 332,000+ miles and when he had the rear gone through last summer and asked the shop to replace everything and the shop told him it would have lasted even longer but the neighbor opted to do the rebuild anyway since it was already out. The shop updated the rear with heavier duty parts and gave him a 3 year 30,000 mile warranty. The neighbor runs a 283/auto.
Point is, you can update what you have.
Just my opinion..
I am looking forward to following your build:metal:

LostMy65 03-26-2012 10:43 AM

Re: Lost My 65
 
Are the gears easy to swap out?
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66-PMD-GMC 03-26-2012 11:18 AM

Re: Lost My 65
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LostMy65 (Post 5275750)
Are the gears easy to swap out?
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For a 10 bolt, what the vendor did was update the original housing my neighbor has with later model carrier and other internals.
According to that shop/vendor, the only thing left original were the axles and housing. (he, my neighbor, did a disk conversion later.)
I only have build experience with 9 inch and old Olds/Pontiac 3rd member style rear ends so I don't know how "easy" it will be to swap out anything. However, it couldn't be all that hard. Because of my neighbors truck, I know it is possible.

1Bad62Pro/Street 03-26-2012 12:52 PM

Re: Lost My 65
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LostMy65 (Post 5267403)
My 65 is setting on a 62 frame.
It's what was available for me back in 84 when I built my truck back up.
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I have a Ford 5 lug 8.8 rear end that will mount up to a '62 frame.
3.08 gear ratio. But the shipping would be crazy ha ha.
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CMACDONALD1 03-26-2012 12:55 PM

Re: Lost My 65
 
Great story! Just read through the whole thread.

LostMy65 03-26-2012 01:03 PM

Re: Lost My 65
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1Bad62Pro/Street (Post 5275972)
I have a Ford 5 lug 8.8 rear end that will mount up to a '62 frame.
3.08 gear ratio. But the shipping would be crazy ha ha.
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Oh, I know. If you lived closer..... :)
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LostMy65 03-26-2012 01:08 PM

Re: Lost My 65
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CMACDONALD1 (Post 5275979)
Great story! Just read through the whole thread.

Thanks. All my friends can't believe I tracked down and got it back. I walk out quite often and put my hand on the hood - just to touch it. :D
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Captainfab 03-27-2012 12:31 AM

Re: Lost My 65
 
So you are saying that your neighbor, had a shop install a different model of 10 bolt carrier and gears into a Eaton HO32 housing? I have not heard of this before. Do you have any info as to what the application of the parts are?


Quote:

Originally Posted by 66-PMD-GMC (Post 5275808)
For a 10 bolt, what the vendor did was update the original housing my neighbor has with later model carrier and other internals.
According to that shop/vendor, the only thing left original were the axles and housing. (he, my neighbor, did a disk conversion later.)
I only have build experience with 9 inch and old Olds/Pontiac 3rd member style rear ends so I don't know how "easy" it will be to swap out anything. However, it couldn't be all that hard. Because of my neighbors truck, I know it is possible.

I wouldn't call a gear swap an easy job, but it does require the proper tools to do the job. Which as with any job, the proper tools makes a big difference in performing the task at hand. At a minimum you will need a dial indicator, a magnetic base, a dial caliper, and a H-frame press or some other way of pressing bearings off and on. Plus of course all the necessary bearings, shims and seals along with gear marking compound.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LostMy65 (Post 5275750)
Are the gears easy to swap out?
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LostMy65 03-27-2012 12:33 AM

Re: Lost My 65
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Captainfab (Post 5277478)
I wouldn't call a gear swap an easy job, but it does require the proper tools to do the job. Which as with any job, the proper tools makes a big difference in performing the task at hand. At a minimum you will need a dial indicator, a magnetic base, a dial caliper, and a H-frame press or some other way of pressing bearings off and on. Plus of course all the necessary bearings, shims and seals along with gear marking compound.

Doesn't sound easy. :)

66-PMD-GMC 03-27-2012 10:58 AM

Re: Lost My 65
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Captainfab (Post 5277478)
So you are saying that your neighbor, had a shop install a different model of 10 bolt carrier and gears into a Eaton HO32 housing? I have not heard of this before. Do you have any info as to what the application of the parts are?

For fear of stepping out of bounds and having a forum monitor jump down my throat, I hesitate to mention names of businesses, hint of trying to sell something etc...
However, Johns (the neighbor) truck is a GMC, 65 and as a GMC a leaf rear suspension.
(63-66 GMC was only available with leaf rear)
63-87 rear ends all are a direct bolt in with leafs.
Looking at the photos of Roberts diff and then walking next door and taking a peek under Johns truck, he has a 12 bolt, it was updated by a company in downtown Phoenix that deals with diffs exclusively and has for decades. Very knowledgable folks.
I should have looked at Roberts photos before commenting. My mistake....

1Bad62Pro/Street 03-27-2012 01:10 PM

Re: One Bad Mamma Jamma '65
 
'62 frame.....
Needing a rear end......
heee heeee heeeee
58 Ford Wagon 9” Rear End (Axle Length 57.25 inches)
No narrowing required.
3.70 or for a little more umph.... 4.11 gear....;)
Rear tires: Mickey Thompson Sportsman Pro Tire, 29x15.50-15LT
One Bad Mamma Jamma '65

http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/...10217-1515.jpg
http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/...IMAG0268-1.jpg
http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/...10216-1511.jpg
http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/...5/IMAG0963.jpg

LostMy65 04-21-2012 11:22 PM

Re: Lost My 65
 
Still haven't got the brakes totally worked out on my 66, but I just needed to do something on my 65 today.
Got all the old carpet scraps and fiberglass insulation crap job tore out of the cab.
Took the air-cleaner off and gave the carb and good cleaning with Gunk Carb Cleaner.
Engine runs nice now.
Next will be getting the brakes good, and then I can drive it some this summer.
I will be doing this to tide me over until the winter when I upgrade to front discs:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=460791

LostMy65 05-02-2012 11:53 PM

Re: Lost My 65
 
Got the brakes split using a impala mc like ChiefRocka suggested.
That thread is closed, but jocko's thread is still open:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=487384

LostMy65 05-02-2012 11:58 PM

Re: Lost My 65
 
Built me a pressure bleeder out of stuff I had lying around.
Worked great to bleed the brakes.
Used it on my 66, and now on my 65.
http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/...5/IMAG0993.jpg

LostMy65 05-05-2012 11:47 PM

Re: Lost My 65
 
Got the brakes worked out and gave her a good wash.
Engine runs really nice.
I'm good for now.
I'll tinker on the body & interior here and there until winter when I plan to upgrade the front to discs.

http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/...IMAG1010-1.png
http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/...IMAG1005-1.png

C@rnut001 05-06-2012 01:31 AM

Re: Lost My 65
 
It is looking good...wish I had one that looked that good to drive around....Keep up working on her and improving her!

Jeff La 05-06-2012 09:11 AM

Re: Lost My 65
 
What rims do you have, I really like those?? Think they are still available???

LostMy65 05-06-2012 09:21 AM

Re: Lost My 65
 
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Originally Posted by Jeff La (Post 5355833)
What rims do you have, I really like those?? Think they are still available???

The brand is Modern.
They were on it when I bought her back.
I've done some searching and can't find them.
There's a couple members here that also have them. One member has the 5-lug, and another has the 5 spoke. Mine has 6 lugs and 6 spokes.
I really like them too. Thanks.
I'll contact the previous owner and see what he knows about them.
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jhrusk 05-06-2012 09:47 AM

Re: Lost My 65
 
Been watching your thread for a while,I'm glad you were able to get your truck back and getting it back on the road.Looks good.

Jeff La 05-06-2012 10:13 AM

Re: Lost My 65
 
Thanks for the info on the rims, I'll see what I can find also.

Captainfab 05-07-2012 12:11 AM

Re: Lost My 65
 
Glad to see you got her back on the road :thumbs:

LostMy65 05-07-2012 03:12 AM

Re: Lost My 65
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by C@rnut001 (Post 5355599)
It is looking good...wish I had one that looked that good to drive around....Keep up working on her and improving her!

Thanks,
I think she looks good too. :)


Quote:

Originally Posted by jhrusk (Post 5355896)
Been watching your thread for a while,I'm glad you were able to get your truck back and getting it back on the road.Looks good.

Yes, it feels good having her back.
Thanks


Quote:

Originally Posted by Captainfab (Post 5357494)
Glad to see you got her back on the road :thumbs:

I'm going to use this summer to rekindle our relationship. :D
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Captainfab 05-08-2012 12:28 AM

Re: Lost My 65
 
Take her on some nice long drives, some nice outings like car shows, and spend lots of quality time with her and before you know it you will be in love all over again :)



Quote:

Originally Posted by LostMy65 (Post 5357656)
I'm going to use this summer to rekindle our relationship. :D
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LostMy65 05-10-2012 01:41 AM

Re: Lost My 65
 
I replaced the turn signal mechanism in the steering wheel today and seem to have developed a problem with the coupling.
The steering wheel turns but it doesn't turn the wheels.
The shaft spins inside this coupling:
http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/...5/IMAG1020.jpg

66-PMD-GMC 05-10-2012 02:03 AM

Re: Lost My 65
 
That is kinda strange.
Maybe mine is different because of the year but mine is one shaft from the wheel to the rag joint on my steering gear box.
Too bad you are so far away. I have a couple of stock columns laying around here.

LostMy65 05-10-2012 02:05 AM

Re: Lost My 65
 
Yeah, my 66 is one solid shaft.

markeb01 05-10-2012 04:20 AM

Re: Lost My 65
 
The photo is showing GM’s version of a sliding steering column U-joint (plagued with quality problems/recalls in the intermediate shaft version). It appears yours has either broken or pulled apart. The arrow is pointing to what appears to be the cross shaft that should be riding in the side slots marked with the X’s. This disconnect could have resulted in a catastrophic failure on the road, and needs some serious investigation/repair.

http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/3848/columni.jpg

LostMy65 05-10-2012 08:52 PM

Re: Lost My 65
 
Thanks Mark,

I've been searching the forums on how to replace it with something that isn't danger prone.



Quote:

Originally Posted by markeb01 (Post 5372616)
The photo is showing GM’s version of a sliding steering column U-joint (plagued with quality problems/recalls in the intermediate shaft version). It appears yours has either broken or pulled apart. The arrow is pointing to what appears to be the cross shaft that should be riding in the side slots marked with the X’s. This disconnect could have resulted in a catastrophic failure on the road, and needs some serious investigation/repair.

http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/3848/columni.jpg

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markeb01 05-10-2012 09:09 PM

Re: Lost My 65
 
If the shaft heading to the steering box is solid with no rag joint at the bottom, you may be able to buy a Borgeson joint that fits the splines on the bottom of the steering column, and the other end matches the lower shaft splines. And if the distance between the end of the two shafts if too far for a standard u-joint, and vibration reducer may fit perfectly in the same spot. It might be worth a call or an email to them for some advice.

http://www.borgeson.com/

LostMy65 05-11-2012 03:44 PM

Re: Lost My 65
 
I found the issue.
I guess when I pulled up on the shaft to remove the steering wheel, the whole column moved up because the bolts holding the column in place were loose.
I got things lined up and slid the column back down. http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/...5/IMAG1021.jpg
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clemdaddy 05-14-2012 09:33 PM

Re: Lost My 65
 
are those swiveling union couplers thingies really dangerous? damn i thought that they were the way to go when changing to power in the box steering. just last weekend i got one from salvage... what is the best way to use the couplers, what will make them safer?

Quote:

Originally Posted by LostMy65 (Post 5372563)
I replaced the turn signal mechanism in the steering wheel today and seem to have developed a problem with the coupling.
The steering wheel turns but it doesn't turn the wheels.
The shaft spins inside this coupling:
http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/...5/IMAG1020.jpg


cris well 05-16-2012 09:46 PM

Re: Lost My 65
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LostMy65 (Post 5350134)
Built me a pressure bleeder out of stuff I had lying around.
Worked great to bleed the brakes.
Used it on my 66, and now on my 65.
http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/...5/IMAG0993.jpg



Any specs or more pics of the pressure bleeder? I'd like to make me something like that.

LostMy65 05-17-2012 01:43 AM

Re: Lost My 65
 
It's just a cheapo garden sprayer I had laying around.
I had some pressure gauges from an old job I did years back.
A small chunk of wood with a piece rubber.
And a length of hose and a couple clamps.
It was a crude slap together - but it works great.
http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/...5/IMAG1029.jpg
http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/...5/IMAG1027.jpg
http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/...5/IMAG1028.jpg

cris well 05-17-2012 12:21 PM

Re: Lost My 65
 
Thanks man!

What did you use around the fittings? JB Weld or some kind of silicone?

66-PMD-GMC 05-17-2012 01:30 PM

Re: Lost My 65
 
I am sure looking forward to your 65 on a 60-62 frame build.
I found that my 58 Pontiac engine mounts that are out of a 58 GMC truck line up with the center mounts on the cross member etc.. etc... looks like a bolt in deal and I have a 62 swb frame.. :rolleyes:
You also said that they make a disk conversion for the 60-62 frames and I think I can fab a air spring setup for the front so ... ;)
As I said.. waiting to watch what you will be doing. :flag:

:5150:

LostMy65 05-17-2012 08:14 PM

Re: Lost My 65
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cris well (Post 5385748)
Thanks man!

What did you use around the fittings? JB Weld or some kind of silicone?

I think I just used oil resistant gasket sealer.
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LostMy65 05-20-2012 02:13 AM

Re: Lost My 65
 
I think I mentioned in my 66 service truck thread that a friend of mine was giving me a couple Fiero buckets. Well, he came across a couple more, but with speakers in the headrests. :D I guess it was a rare option.
I mounted these in my 65, and will be swapping the backs that have the speakers when he gets those seats removed.
I told him I wanted to give him something for all these seats - He said how about all four seats for $50.

I know it may look totally 80's, but I'm fine with that. :D

http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/...5/IMAG1036.jpg
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Captainfab 05-21-2012 01:45 AM

Re: Lost My 65
 
They look good to me. Are they comfy? That's what matters.

LostMy65 05-21-2012 02:25 AM

Re: Lost My 65
 
They are surprisingly very comfy.
I originally just figured when he offered them for free, they would work until I could afford buddy buckets. I found them so comfy, I told him. Then he said he came across the ones with the speakers in the headrests. I'm pretty settled on keeping them for good and down the road have another one of friends who does upholstery wrap them in material similar to what was on my lost buddy buckets.


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