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paintman 08-27-2015 09:51 PM

Re: 46 pickemup in NJ "the Rebuild"
 
This day it sucked to be me........................:lol:
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It also sucked today..................:lol:
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TJ's Chevy 08-28-2015 10:50 AM

Re: 46 pickemup in NJ "the Rebuild"
 
Hey the truck is looking sweet! Great work! i do have a question....where did you mount the chains on the engine when you put it on the frame? Trying to get mine is this weekend and have a way of doing it, but I wanna see if there's another. lol

paintman 08-28-2015 12:55 PM

Re: 46 pickemup in NJ "the Rebuild"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TJ's Chevy (Post 7290456)
Hey the truck is looking sweet! Great work! i do have a question....where did you mount the chains on the engine when you put it on the frame? Trying to get mine is this weekend and have a way of doing it, but I wanna see if there's another. lol

Hey TJ! When I did mine I didn't want to take the intake or headers off, or scratch the valve cover. It's almost impossible to pick up an inline without it tilting to the drivers side because of all the weight. I ended up making a tripod shaped chain of sorts that worked perfect! I'm not sure if this will work if your cab is on the frame though. Here's how I did it........

For the front single chain, I used the front holes in the passenger side of the head where the AC bracket would go.

On the back side of the engine I used 1 loooooong chain attached to each side of the tranny. First I bolted up the tranny but used 2 extra long bolts ( i think 3"), for the 2 most outer holes on the tranny housing. I put these 2 bolts in from the engine side (essentially backwards from conventional) with the chain attached with some big fender washers. I made sure the bolts went all the way through the tranny housing to keep the threads inline. Theses 2 bolts I left about 2 inches exposed on the engine side so I could attach my chains to them.

So essentially I had one long chain attached on each side of the tranny that
went up to the hoist (like an upside down V). The front chain hooked at the same point on the hoist. Thus I had a tripod of sorts. This allowed me to pull straight up on the motor with no swing or tilt. Once i got the motor in I removed the 2 long bolts in the tranny, then ran the 2 proper sized bolts in from the back side like normal. Worked perfect! I did have the top of my motor all wrapped in towels as the chain might still want to rub on the valve cover. Hope all this makes sense.

Cape Codder 08-28-2015 10:01 PM

Re: 46 pickemup in NJ "the Rebuild"
 
Been doing body work for over 40 years and used to enjoy it. Now most days seem like it sucks to be me.

Bob

paintman 08-29-2015 09:48 AM

Re: 46 pickemup in NJ "the Rebuild"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cape Codder (Post 7291082)
Been doing body work for over 40 years and used to enjoy it. Now most days seem like it sucks to be me.

Bob

I hear ya Cape, I'm not even going for anything near show quality, and I am already sick of it. I am still planning on throwing on some high build though just to say I did it. At this stage in my life a scratch here or ding there will not bother me.

TJ's Chevy 08-29-2015 11:06 PM

Re: 46 pickemup in NJ "the Rebuild"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paintman (Post 7290582)
Hey TJ! When I did mine I didn't want to take the intake or headers off, or scratch the valve cover. It's almost impossible to pick up an inline without it tilting to the drivers side because of all the weight. I ended up making a tripod shaped chain of sorts that worked perfect! I'm not sure if this will work if your cab is on the frame though. Here's how I did it........

For the front single chain, I used the front holes in the passenger side of the head where the AC bracket would go.

On the back side of the engine I used 1 loooooong chain attached to each side of the tranny. First I bolted up the tranny but used 2 extra long bolts ( i think 3"), for the 2 most outer holes on the tranny housing. I put these 2 bolts in from the engine side (essentially backwards from conventional) with the chain attached with some big fender washers. I made sure the bolts went all the way through the tranny housing to keep the threads inline. Theses 2 bolts I left about 2 inches exposed on the engine side so I could attach my chains to them.

So essentially I had one long chain attached on each side of the tranny that
went up to the hoist (like an upside down V). The front chain hooked at the same point on the hoist. Thus I had a tripod of sorts. This allowed me to pull straight up on the motor with no swing or tilt. Once i got the motor in I removed the 2 long bolts in the tranny, then ran the 2 proper sized bolts in from the back side like normal. Worked perfect! I did have the top of my motor all wrapped in towels as the chain might still want to rub on the valve cover. Hope all this makes sense.

Hey thanks for the tips!!! I got everything mounted today. lol I ended up(since I onld had one LOOOONG chain) hooking up to the rear of the engine where the bell housing bolts too...then hooking up to where the A/C bracket would hook to and then I also put a chain on the exhaust manifold stud....then put the engine and tranny in as one piece. Had me sweating but we got it done. lol Thanks! :chevy:

paintman 09-10-2015 07:46 PM

Re: 46 pickemup in NJ "the Rebuild"
 
Today was pipetastic around here!!!!!!!! Got them bolted upto the headers but still have to figure out how I am going to mount them to the frame. If I remember correctly these inline 6's flex a lot.
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paintman 09-10-2015 07:51 PM

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After $200 per gallon I guess theres no turning back now..............
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Customs trucks are gloss. Hot rod trucks are........
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TJ's Chevy 09-10-2015 08:51 PM

Re: 46 pickemup in NJ "the Rebuild"
 
Looks Pipetastic! :metal: Lovely paint to!

paintman 09-22-2015 07:58 PM

Re: 46 pickemup in NJ "the Rebuild"
 
Mango, Tango, Tastic!........... Or, at the very least, more then acceptable. Just have doors, hood, and headlight buckets to do. It certainly is not worthy of any trophies but for someone who paints Kitchens and Bedrooms for a living, it's turning out way better then what I expected. Especially when you consider this is the first time doing something like this. Not to mention in my garage instead of a spray booth.

Of course there is some dust spots, but nothing I can't live with. The biggest problem is trying to lay the matte clear coat on all the pieces in an even consistent manor so as to achieve an even sheen. Because I have such a small space to work in I have to do a few parts each day. This causes problems because there is no way I can do the same exact tempo, speed and distance each day. Some of the pieces have a slightly different sheen because there's no way I can spray at the same distance and speed as I did the days prior.

I think the best thing to do is once the truck is all together is give it a light scuff with 2000 and spray it one more time with a light coat to even things out.

Ok, OK, I'll shut up and post pics.

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old yelr 09-22-2015 10:01 PM

Re: 46 pickemup in NJ "the Rebuild"
 
Looking good!

Troy Sr 09-23-2015 12:13 AM

Re: 46 pickemup in NJ "the Rebuild"
 
That paint looks fantastic!!! I love the satin look!!! Job well done! This is why I subscribed to your thread!!!! ps I love the inline!!!:metal:

joliver33 09-23-2015 08:30 AM

Re: 46 pickemup in NJ "the Rebuild"
 
Very nice!

solidaxel 09-23-2015 05:20 PM

Re: 46 pickemup in NJ "the Rebuild"
 
You are doing a excellent job!

paintman 09-27-2015 07:35 PM

Re: 46 pickemup in NJ "the Rebuild"
 
Almost done! Just have the top of the hood to do in the Mango Tango. I think the running boards will be black.

Still kicking around the idea of painting the grill and windshield surround in gloss white. In a perfect world, I would chrome them but I don't feel like dropping $1,000.

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It's amazing how much different this color looks in different angles of light. Sometimes it looks like burnt copper, other times it almost looks like an orangey gold. I'm diggin it!

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old yelr 09-27-2015 08:10 PM

Re: 46 pickemup in NJ "the Rebuild"
 
Looks nice!!

Johns66 10-07-2015 10:28 PM

Re: 46 pickemup in NJ "the Rebuild"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paintman (Post 7321804)
Almost done! Just have the top of the hood to do in the Mango Tango. I think the running boards will be black.

Still kicking around the idea of painting the grill and windshield surround in gloss white. In a perfect world, I would chrome them but I don't feel like dropping $1,000.

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It's amazing how much different this color looks in different angles of light. Sometimes it looks like burnt copper, other times it almost looks like an orangey gold. I'm diggin it!

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Wow, okay I have been reading this the last few days and am inspired.

Tonight I bought a used Iwata paint rig with the regulator for $45.

Did not figure I needed to spend a bunch of money on a brand new gun. I also felt like a used Iwata would be better than a cheap gun in trying to get good results.

Thanks for sharing.

paintman 10-08-2015 07:16 PM

Re: 46 pickemup in NJ "the Rebuild"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Johns66 (Post 7333767)
Wow, okay I have been reading this the last few days and am inspired.

Tonight I bought a used Iwata paint rig with the regulator for $45.

Did not figure I needed to spend a bunch of money on a brand new gun. I also felt like a used Iwata would be better than a cheap gun in trying to get good results.

Thanks for sharing.

John, you should be fine just take your time and do a few of the less important parts first, until you get the hang of it. I did all my parts (prime and paint) with a cheap Harbor Freight purple spray gun kit I bought for $65. It came with a regular spray gun and a touch up gun. I used the big gun for all the painting. I just used the bigger 1.8 tip for the priming and then used a 1.4 for the color and clear. I will say this......if your spraying in your garage you will have some dust in your paint. I don't see any way to avoid it.

I don't see how a rank amateur would spray any better using a high priced gun.
I'm sure there are some body shop snobs that would look at my truck and pick apart the paint job, but I could care less. I think it looks just fine for what I am doing.

paintman 10-14-2015 05:48 PM

Re: 46 pickemup in NJ "the Rebuild"
 
Small update..........spent the last few days buttoning up the underside before I throw the cab back on. I got the front side of my pipes mounted to the tranny cross member via some slick clamps with bearings in them. Also got my E-brake brackets figured out. I tried to use the ones supplied from Lokar but just couldn't figure out a good way to mount them. Drivers side was getting a little busy so I ended up making my own brackets and mounted them to the passenger side of the tranny and tail shaft.

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Got my glass packs, 17" Brockman Mellowtones. I just have to decide what goes behind them. Either tailpipes over the rear and out the back or........I think I might cheap out for now and do some turn downs just in front of the rear.

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I made up a small bracket and mounted it to the old original pulley holes. This will act as another mounting point for the pipes and guides for the E-brake cables. If you look close I was able to re-use (with one hell of a twist), the 2 original cable keepers mounted to the underside of the frame cross member.

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joliver33 10-14-2015 07:53 PM

Re: 46 pickemup in NJ "the Rebuild"
 
What! So you could be telling the truth when you say the truck is broke down because your muffler bearing went out.... LOL. But really everything is looking great.

paintman 10-14-2015 08:05 PM

Re: 46 pickemup in NJ "the Rebuild"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joliver33 (Post 7341452)
What! So you could be telling the truth when you say the truck is broke down because your muffler bearing went out.... LOL. But really everything is looking great.

I guess I should have called it a him joint. :lol:

paintman 10-14-2015 08:06 PM

Re: 46 pickemup in NJ "the Rebuild"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paintman (Post 7341470)
I guess I should have called it a him joint. :lol:

heim joint

Advanced Design 10-14-2015 08:44 PM

Re: 46 pickemup in NJ "the Rebuild"
 
Looking really good! Nice clean brake line bends and routing too.

paintman 11-04-2015 10:34 PM

Re: 46 pickemup in NJ "the Rebuild"
 
Still plugin along with all the little stuff I can get done on the cab. It's nice having it up on the stand, a lot easier to work on things. Because I have a lot of back trouble and can't stay bent over and contorted for long periods of time,
I decided to mount my fuse box under the seat.

I didn't want to pop on a $900 flip up seat from Glide, so I built a slide out tray to mount the box to. Still trying to pick a harness I think I am leaning towards a Ron Francis unit. It's a lot easier working with wood instead of metal. At least for me. Mounted a 3/4 piece of plywood inside the seat riser. I then mounted a drawer glide to it and sexed up a little tray that slides in and out.

Open......
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Closed......
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Also decided to close all the holes on the dash and start fresh. Mainly because whoever cut the last holes either used a chain saw or bazooka. For those of you who have been following along.....I lost my father awhile back thanks to cigarettes. So just to piss him off, I closed up the ash tray!
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CHIZZLER 11-04-2015 11:14 PM

Re: 46 pickemup in NJ "the Rebuild"
 
Lookin good.

paintman 11-05-2015 09:43 PM

Re: 46 pickemup in NJ "the Rebuild"
 
Couple other things the Paintman has been futzin around with is the supply lines for the heated manifold. After much banter over on inliners.org I decided to do it like this.............
water supply from block
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Water return to Tstat housing
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Started doing some of the ground wires. I have one ground (2 guage) running from each side of the motor to spuds i welded to the motor perches. And another one from the tranny (0 gauge) to the frame.
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Kind of hard to see it here but it bolts to the block just to the left of the Alt bracket runs under to the motor perch.
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And then one big honking ground wire from the tranny to another spud welded to the frame.
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Next on the list is hitting the inside of the cab with some insulation. I decided to go with FatMat. Nice thing about being a painter is you also have all the tools for hanging paper. It's great working on my papering table with a nice long straight edge for cutting. Finally something I can do on this truck that I actually know what I am doing! Yea me!:metal:
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TJ's Chevy 11-05-2015 09:45 PM

Re: 46 pickemup in NJ "the Rebuild"
 
Looks good! :metal:

paintman 11-05-2015 09:56 PM

Re: 46 pickemup in NJ "the Rebuild"
 
While we are shooting the breeze here, some of you may notice an issue I have with my Alt bracket. As you can see in the pic I have used up all the adjustment I have on the slider and still have a loose belt. I have tried using the next size smaller belt which gives me enough room to tighten the belt but makes the power steering belt then rub the bolt on the Alt pulley. So I think I have only 2 options.

1. try and find someone with a machine shop who can extend the channel on the bracket.
2. Use the smaller belt and put a double groove pulley on the Alt and let the power steering belt ride on that pulley as well.
3. Put a couple of 1" spacers between the block and the Alt bracket thus moving the entire unit out further from the power steering belt.

Anybody got any other ideas???????
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wessen 11-08-2015 12:19 PM

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keep it up
love the work you did, its immaculate!!!

starting a 46 for a customer in 2 weeks

egarage 11-08-2015 03:22 PM

Re: 46 pickemup in NJ "the Rebuild"
 
Hey Paintman, Where did you mount your trans. cooler and any pictures of cooler?

paintman 11-08-2015 08:20 PM

Re: 46 pickemup in NJ "the Rebuild"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by egarage (Post 7368944)
Hey Paintman, Where did you mount your trans. cooler and any pictures of cooler?

Ask and you shall receive.......
with pics of my shiny new stainless turn downs to finish up the exhaust.
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Still kicking around the idea of mounting a second cooler (pancake style) up in front of the radiator.
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paintman 11-29-2015 08:38 PM

Re: 46 pickemup in NJ "the Rebuild"
 
Never in my wildest dreams did I ever think I would see this day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All you need is a bunch of "Rent a Sons" plus an old school buddy and his son!
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The best part is my wife gets her side of the garage back:lol:
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Yup, I think I can live with that.
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Nothing left to do now except everything else...................stay tuned.

CURSED GEARS 12-02-2015 07:14 AM

Re: 46 pickemup in NJ "the Rebuild"
 
Looking very good. Looks like if you extend the bolt channel, your alt will hit the bracket. Can you extend the bracket at the mounting bolts a inch or so to gain some more clearance?

paintman 12-24-2015 01:40 PM

Re: 46 pickemup in NJ "the Rebuild"
 
Ok still pluggin along at this with some updates as to what's been going on. I figured I would try an wrap up the engine bay by doing all the hoses, fuel line etc.
I wanted to have heat in the cab but after looking around on the web for a heater unit that would fit I just couldn't find anything. Vintage Air has a unit that they say is 9 1/4" wide but they don't calculate the width of the unit with the hose fittings on it. So I was thinking with the fittings it would be at least 10" wide. Well I only have about 9 3/4" between the recessed portion of the firewall and the side of the cab, so I had to come up with another plan.

I decided to try an re-use the old heater that came with the truck. That posed all kind of problems because the heater core was no good. I think I wasted the better portion of a week searching the internet trying to find just the right size core that would fit the housing. Frustrating part was when I found a core that would fit, it didn't have the right size, or proper location of the hose bungs. I finally gave up and decide to try and cram an oversized square into a round hole.

Here's the heater as I got it.
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Here's the heater nos with the new core. this was the smallest core I could find with the bungs in a location that I like. As you can see I had to hack the side out of the housing to squeeze the core in. I think once I pull it back out for final painting it will look fine tucked up under the dash. Maybe in the waaaay distant future I will just make my own housing that will fit in the tight space I have.
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paintman 12-24-2015 01:54 PM

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Ok so here's how the hoses look on the outside. Back when I was young and dumb I used to use braided steel on all the lines on my race car and never had any problems. So now that I am old and stupid I figured why change.
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Here's how I have the heater supply tied into the upper housing. For now I have decided to try and pic up my water temp here as I have heard that the inlines give false readings at idle if you have the sensor in the factory location because it is so close to the exhaust port. I also made up a bracket for my coil. This came in handy as i also was able to use the bracket as a means to support the temp sensor housing. (still needs to be cleaned up and painted), but you get the idea.
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paintman 12-24-2015 02:04 PM

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Here's a better look at the coil bracket and temp sensor housing.
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After I took a bunch of head meds to calm my analness, I got my fuel line bent up and installed in a way I can somewhat live with. I tried to get it to run paralell with the fins on the valve cover as best I could.:lol:
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I made a small bracket and attached it to the power steering mount so I could transition from hard to soft line.
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paintman 12-24-2015 02:10 PM

Re: 46 pickemup in NJ "the Rebuild"
 
Also got some bling for the carb.........
I know most guys have gone with the low profile oval air cleaner on the inlines but the engine bay on a 46 is like looking down into the Grand Canyon, so I thought the taller 4" air cleaner would fill up the space and just look a little better.
Also got a fancy throttle return spring bracket so i don't go head long into the first turn fence with a stuck throttle.:lol:
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solidaxel 12-24-2015 02:12 PM

Re: 46 pickemup in NJ "the Rebuild"
 
That has to be the most expensive heater I have seen, but I am sure it will heat the cab very good
Keep up the good work

paintman 12-24-2015 02:18 PM

Re: 46 pickemup in NJ "the Rebuild"
 
Now onto the radiator............The one that came with the truck was not original (which didn't bother me) but had alot of the coolinf fins crushed in and looked real nasty inside the filler neck when you removed the cap. Soooo of course you get into a case of the "might as wells". So a phone call and $300 later UPS shows up with a shiny new (supposedly 1946 correct), Champion Radiator. I was somewhat suprised and happy when the dam thing fell right into place in the bracket and all 6 holes line up perfectly with no filling or hackig what so ever. Then everything went to Hell in a hand basket.

Once I got the unit bolted into the truck the first thing I had trouble with was the radiator cap decide it wanted to occupy the same space as the bracket running from the firewall to the rad support.
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as you can see I can't get the bolts to tighten down the support bracket to the top of the rad housing.

paintman 12-24-2015 02:29 PM

Re: 46 pickemup in NJ "the Rebuild"
 
oooppps here's the pic.
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Now for the biggest concern. When I ordered the radiator I told the guys i wanted the coolant overflow nipple moved. Originaly it was pointed towards the drivers side. I wanted it positioned towards the passenger side because that's the only place I have room for the overlow tank. When I popped the rad cap to try and determine exactly how they had don the relocation here is what I found.
All kinds of crap around the inside of the filler neck
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What has me totally confused is all the 46 radiators I have seen on the web has the filler neck in this poistion but if you look at the top of the rad housing you can see a half oval area where it looks as if the rad cap should be. Anybody know what dillio is on this????????????
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