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MP&C 10-22-2014 10:59 PM

Re: 55 Wagon Progress
 
Thanks for the comments guys. Yeah, real pleased with how the hood is now closing.


Tonight we worked on some more front end pieces. The drivers side inner fender extension had been slightly mangled, looks like perhaps a tire ran over road kill or something and threw it up, breaking some spot welds.


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1412.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1413.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1414.jpg


Kyle had already worked on straightening the lower bracket, and after I re-welded the broken spot welds, he got into some metal bumping to repair the rest of the mangle in the sheet metal.


Meanwhile, with the hood fitment about done it was time to weld up the rear corners after the rear flanges in the corners had been persuaded forward to provide consistent gap across the back edge of the hood. The Crud Thug was used to clean out the inside corners for welding..


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1417.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1422.jpg


A copper flat bar was trimmed to fit the inside corner snugly to help manage weld penetration where inside cleanup wouldn't be needed.


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1423.jpg


Welded and dressed....


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1424.jpg


Then the peak on the hood was addressed, after peaking the front of the hood awhile back I had yet to fix the low areas. A consistent crown would be essential on provide good support for the hood, and there were a few low spots along the peak. To be able to match up the low areas, a magnetic rule was placed on the underside and top. After sighting the peak and finding the lows, they were marked and the measurement notated.


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1426.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1427.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1429.jpg


Flipping the hood over, the same dimensioned areas were persuaded downward. A screen door tool was used, but proved to be rather ineffective.


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1430.jpg


Time to break out the heavy duty implements, a rounded/radiused cold chisel and a dead blow hammer, along with the small shot bag held against the opposite side....


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1431.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1432.jpg


That worked better, and showed dramatic improvement. Still a bit more to do, but we're running out of time this evening, so we'll finish this up on Saturday..

Dieselwrencher 10-23-2014 06:03 PM

Re: 55 Wagon Progress
 
Nice work on the hood hinges, and awesome metal work again. Very nice.

duallyjams 10-23-2014 08:13 PM

Re: 55 Wagon Progress
 
This thread will live for ever as a reference for metalwork.

MP&C 10-26-2014 12:09 AM

Re: 55 Wagon Progress
 
Thanks guys!


More progress today, some of the factory hardware for the inner fender and inner fender extensions used sheet metal screws and clips that had been spot welded on. We plan on using machine screws, so the clips were drilled out for 1/4-20 rivet nuts.


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1435.jpg


Kyle used the BF Goodrich installing tool. First the rivet nut is threaded onto the tool for full thread engagement..


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1436.jpg


Next, the allen wrench is held stationary, and is also held to stabilize the tool perpendicular to the work piece. The ratchet wrench adds the rotational movement where the "jack screw" draws up the rivet nut, similar to installing a pop rivet..


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1437.jpg


While he was doing that, I used some transfer punches to add the holes to the recently repaired inner fenders for the grille hardware...


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1440.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1439.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1441.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1442.jpg


Then we knocked off early and made a speed run to Annapolis for Jalopyrama. Here are some of the sights:


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http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1477.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1479.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1482.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1483.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1484.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1486.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1487.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1491.jpg


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FarmerSid 10-26-2014 08:01 AM

Re: 55 Wagon Progress
 
Cool stuff Robert! Can you post some more pictures and info on the rivet nut tool? I think I have one in my tool box at work but never knew what it was used for.

duallyjams 10-26-2014 05:15 PM

Re: 55 Wagon Progress
 
That wagons is really nice, it was at the rodder journal at Pimlico, the front roll pan, hood and roof ribs all line up and match.

Advanced Design 10-26-2014 07:40 PM

Re: 55 Wagon Progress
 
Nice work on the wagon, great car show and more details on the rivnut tool would be interesting.....haven't seen one like that.

Bomp 10-26-2014 09:56 PM

Re: 55 Wagon Progress
 
Cool pics of some cool cars but I gotta say your info is TOPS.

MP&C 10-27-2014 08:50 AM

Re: 55 Wagon Progress
 
I was going to post a youtube link on the proper use of the rivnut tool shown, but all of the videos I've seen thus far show using the tool incorrectly. So I'll have to make one myself and I'll post up a link when done...

Dieselwrencher 10-27-2014 07:56 PM

Re: 55 Wagon Progress
 
Great work and thanks for the pics from the show. A lot of nice rides there. That riv nut tool looks pretty nice. I'm looking forward to the vid you will make.

swamp rat 10-29-2014 04:37 AM

Re: 55 Wagon Progress
 
That's a nice collection of rides!

MP&C 10-29-2014 10:07 PM

Re: 55 Wagon Progress
 
A slight diversion, as the Migmaster 250 has left the building.....


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture179.jpg


Sold it this past weekend on CL, time now to consolidate, where the old machine was a two-story deal, the new one will be a three story. In order to take up less floor space, I need to incorporate the Miller 211, the Hypertherm Tig, and the Snap On dent puller, and two bottles:


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1499.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1500.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1501.jpg


Starting with the base, some 1-1/2 square tubing makes up the frame. This stuff was free, and as with most free stuff, it isn't. Kyle spent most of the time in the shop this evening media blasting rusty square tubing that has been sitting outdoors for a number of years. He also learned a bit more of mig welding..


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1502.jpg


The Tig will go on the bottom, and it has some mounting holes on the bottom side...


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1503.jpg


So some 3/4 square stock was used to make some rails for the Tig, along with some holes to tie in the front end..


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1504.jpg


To be continued.... :metal:

MP&C 11-02-2014 12:14 AM

Re: 55 Wagon Progress
 
Worked some more on the welder cart tonight. Started by adding the front casters.....





http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1509.jpg





A cross brace was added under the center line of the 2 bottles...





http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1512.jpg





12 gauge will be used to form a tray under the bottles...





http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1513.jpg





Support bracket added for Mig welder:





http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1510.jpg





Next time we'll add the bracket for the dent puller...





http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1511.jpg

duallyjams 11-02-2014 07:33 AM

Re: 55 Wagon Progress
 
did you pick up anything from the auction ?

MP&C 11-02-2014 10:19 AM

Re: 55 Wagon Progress
 
I picked up a new shop clock at the auction.. My old Budweiser clock had quit about a month or so ago. This is a vintage neon Ford clock, looks to be a dealer only item as near as I can tell..



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1506.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1507.jpg


Also got a small machinists tool box, primarily for the adjustable reamers it had inside, and the casters/wheels you see above for the welder cart..

MP&C 11-02-2014 09:25 PM

Re: 55 Wagon Progress
 
Also got this crescent wrench rebuild kit that originally came out of a now closed hardware store. New jaws, thumbwheel/gears, and even vise grip springs (which I actually need a couple). Not items you're likely to see at a big box store..


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1514.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1515.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1516.jpg

duallyjams 11-02-2014 10:24 PM

Re: 55 Wagon Progress
 
never seen one those

Cape Codder 11-03-2014 12:00 AM

Re: 55 Wagon Progress
 
That' way up on the cool scale. Cresent wrenches are still the go to tool for changing torch gas bottles. And handy for bending stuff

FarmerSid 11-03-2014 08:42 AM

Re: 55 Wagon Progress
 
Never seen that before. Cool!

Advanced Design 11-03-2014 09:36 AM

Re: 55 Wagon Progress
 
Very interesting....from the day when we repaired items instead of buying a new one.

MP&C 11-05-2014 11:42 PM

Re: 55 Wagon Progress
 
More progress on the welding cart tonight, the rear axle was made from a piece of angle and two 3/4-10 bolts..



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1521.jpg



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1523.jpg



Rear bottle tray made from some 12 gauge, and welded on using about 3/8 diameter plug welds..



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1528.jpg



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1530.jpg



Top shelf added along with some gussets made of 12 gauge..



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1533.jpg



Bottle relief and pull handle added....


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1532.jpg



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1534.jpg



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1536.jpg

FarmerSid 11-06-2014 09:14 AM

Re: 55 Wagon Progress
 
Nice! That bottle must last you some time.

MP&C 11-08-2014 12:13 AM

Re: 55 Wagon Progress
 
They normally last a year or so..


Here's the rivnut installation video!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jrrf_VbTsc






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MP&C 11-08-2014 12:38 AM

Re: 55 Wagon Progress
 
More progress this evening on the welder cart, these studs are added to make use of the bottle bracket that came off the old welder. My brother in law had borrowed it at one time, and it came back with the fancy bracket. He retired the ratchet strap I had around the two bottles. This worked pretty well, so rather than reinvent the wheel.... Reminds me, I have some other things needing finishing I should lend him...


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1537.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1539.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1540.jpg


Then a bracket for the clip is added to hold the Mig torch..


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1542.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1543.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1544.jpg


Holders for the various cables....


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1548.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1549.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1545.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1546.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1551.jpg


.....and a test fit before we throw some paint on it...


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1554.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1552.jpg


Looks like I have some room left, may have to add one more....

Advanced Design 11-08-2014 02:23 AM

Re: 55 Wagon Progress
 
Robert- great video on the rivnut installation tool. Thanks for posting that. Really nice cart you put together too. Well done.

swamp rat 11-08-2014 05:02 AM

Re: 55 Wagon Progress
 
Nice cart!

MP&C 11-08-2014 03:37 PM

Re: 55 Wagon Progress
 
OK, one last welder to add and I promise I'm done...


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1555.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1556.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1558.jpg


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http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1560.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1561.jpg


Now to disassemble and paint it...

FarmerSid 11-08-2014 09:07 PM

Re: 55 Wagon Progress
 
Sweet! What colour?

franken 11-08-2014 11:47 PM

Re: 55 Wagon Progress
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MP&C (Post 6531261)
Well this evening was a short night, back to the day job tomorrow, so we'll have to call it early. .

If this isn't your day job, the rest of us should just give up.

MP&C 11-08-2014 11:47 PM

Re: 55 Wagon Progress
 
Looking through the flam locker, here's what I have in LOUD. The neons typically don't like UV and are quick to fade, so I think it's between the Chrome Yellow and the Scarlet Red. I'm leaning toward the red...

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...cture108-1.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...cture109-1.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...cture110-1.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...Picture111.jpg

Advanced Design 11-08-2014 11:54 PM

Re: 55 Wagon Progress
 
Red, closer match to the Lincoln....

swamp rat 11-09-2014 06:33 AM

Re: 55 Wagon Progress
 
Besides its a Harley color.. :)

MP&C 11-12-2014 11:42 PM

Re: 55 Wagon Progress
 
Kyle worked this evening to repair the remaining damaged threaded holes in the inner fenders. A couple of the ones for the core support were stripped, so he changed those out to 5/16-18 rivet nuts.


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1570.jpg


For the welded on clip nuts for the sheet metal style fasteners, we had drilled them out and installed 1/4-20 rivet nuts to be able to use machine screws instead. A couple of them popped off while drilling, and these were welded back on with the Miller spot welder to keep a good backing support for the rivet nut..


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1572.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1573.jpg


While he was working on that, I got busy adding some color to the welding cart. It was a toss up between some bright red (HD color) which was acrylic lacquer, or a bright yellow (H/K Lemon Yellow basecoat). As I didn't have any lacquer thinner in stock for the red, yellow it is...followed by clearcoat


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1567.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1569.jpg



Along with the purple E-wheel, this should help to brighten up the shop!

duallyjams 11-13-2014 12:12 AM

Re: 55 Wagon Progress
 
skittles

swamp rat 11-13-2014 05:07 AM

Re: 55 Wagon Progress
 
Well it was ether that or Patina then.. It will shine down a little with use. :)

MP&C 11-15-2014 05:02 PM

Re: 55 Wagon Progress
 
Okay, got things together today. Here's the total conglomeration...



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1577.jpg



Welded rings to hold the Tig rod tubes......



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1578.jpg



Retaining clip so the Mig torch doesn't have to lay on the floor...



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1580.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1579.jpg



As you can see, not much for wasted space. Here's the outlet box for the Mig....



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1587.jpg



and Tig.....



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1588.jpg



Bottle bracket.....



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1582.jpg



I did give it a good shove to see how top heavy it was, and with the two bottles directly over the rear wheels it's very stable. Don't think I'll need worry about any accidental turnovers...



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1581.jpg

FarmerSid 11-15-2014 07:23 PM

Re: 55 Wagon Progress
 
Nice! Great way of organizing all those tools in one ice nifty package.

duallyjams 11-15-2014 10:54 PM

Re: 55 Wagon Progress
 
I like the yellow it looks good.

swamp rat 11-16-2014 03:27 AM

Re: 55 Wagon Progress
 
Probably about 250 lbs worth huh? how does it roll? pretty easy?

MP&C 11-16-2014 09:07 PM

Re: 55 Wagon Progress
 
I was assembling the welding cart yesterday, as Kyle tried his hand at the rocker panel roller on the driver's side. It had a poor match to the fender, just as the passenger side did.


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1583.jpg


This made a noticeable improvement, and the front edge was tweaked using the door skin hammer..


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1584.jpg


With a more consistent contour across the gap, we can start getting the front end ready for some epoxy..


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1585.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...icture1586.jpg


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