Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

Great idea! Nut pointing into the body through the hole with the flange still resting on the outside surface? Thanks Jim!

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

nice work, hey I never get sick of seeing patch work. its a major part of bringing these things back to life.

some stuff I see selling these days are bringing really good money, its nice to see that someone could have actually gotten paid decent for the work to be done right. Often times you'll never get the return if things are done right. So if you were a shop writing a bill you gotta say hey "I'm not painting a car with shabby body work" for example.

I like the flange nut idea. I'd have to see a pic on what you got going on. Could you put the flange nut on the fender itself and run your bolt from inside to the outside?

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

Thanks 99, always trying to do it as right as I can.

Hopefully Jim will have a picture. The nut will go in the body where the fender mounts, sticking through a hole big enough for the nut to go through yet not big enough for the flanged part of the nut to pass through. The flange will be sitting flush on the outside surface and welded there. The fender lip is then bolted to the flanged nut from the outside of the body as there isn't access from inside.

Hope that makes sense and a picture will help. Gotta swing by the nut shop for flanged nuts this week.

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

I only had 4 missing between both rear fenders....I went with welded in flange nuts as well

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

gotcha, I got a visual of it. Just wasn't sure if there was access from the inside. I haven't dug into either of my panels as they are on the back back burners.

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

That's a brutal task. It takes along time to do metal work to fix rust. It feels like eternity doing it but it's so worth it once you have done it.

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

I was thinking your 'Burb was really solid. Thanks for the confirmation on the flanged nuts.

Sorry 99....I learned something new and got all excited yacking about it. Usually there isn't access from inside though I made some access for the left side.

It sure is a brutal task hydrojunkie. Spending as much time replacing some rusted metal as we did replacing the entire floor. Knew going into this it would be slow and wow I was right. Not my first time though.

Here is a picture of the extra access I put in. Just the one toward the rear. PO had used a torch on the area above the wheel opening to install a thin sheet with nuts. We will repair this once the rusted metal is replaced.

Jim, below is a practice piece with the flanged nut. This is what you mentioned? Re-learned I need to tack both sides before welding as of course it lifted. Then believe I can sand / grind the face of the weld about flush with the bottom of the flanged nut.

Lotta grelding this week end and only have 2 patches left to do on the right hand side. Plodding along.....

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

AD, yes that is what we have done, make sure to chase the threads after welding...Jim

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

looks great, I can totally see an nice access panel bead rolled and held on with some nice allen bolts. possibly left exposed.

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

You are doing some GREAT work! I have an idea for you, with your ambition and skill set. Now that I have been driving the 46 with the roll out windshield in the hotter weather ( not quite hot enough for A/C but hot enough to roll/slide all the windows) I have noticed there is a HUGE temp difference between AD trucks/Burbs that I have had and this 46 with the roll out shield. Not just a little, but a HUGE difference in comfort. When I go to repaint the 50 Burb, I will be modifying a pre 46 wshield frame and grafting in the upper hinge into the roof/pinchweld area and installing the roller in the dash. Something to think about, If you have the chance to drive a pre 47 do it.

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

Thanks Jim will do!

99 thanks and that is a great idea. Nicely beaded panels would look good.

Newfisher thank you and you are too kind. I have a long way to go with skills. Interesting idea you have and I haven't driven a pre-AD truck / burb. Love your 46 (looking forward to the updates you have planned) and will have to drive one to see. Folks way back did well with ventilation with what they had. Hopefully when you do the conversion you will do a build thread on it.

Plan to plod through finishing the right side patches next week end and maybe make the left side look a little better.

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

you have a nice project on your hands! Nice work so far

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

Looking good. Nice work on the patch panels.

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

Thanks Bowtieguy79! Really like your '72 Burb and look forward to updates.

Thank you 48 ChevBagged...means a lot to me. Coaltrina came out awesome! Loved the video.

Trying my best on the patch panels and falling a bit short of my looks / quality goal even though they will be covered by the rear fender. Comparing this to the patches on my 35 Chevy fender (inner and outer shown below) shows I am a bit short. To be fair, the work on the 35 was done by a very talented craftsman. Front outside quarter of the fender was made and replaced.

Will be little progress this week end as current plans are to focus on friends '52 Buick front suspension upgrade.

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

Yeah, that's some beautiful work on the 35 fender...Jim

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

Thanks Jim. Randy at Ferguson Coachbuilding did most of the metal work on the 35. One of these days we will finish that one up.

No Burb work happened over the week end....helping a friend with his '52 Buick suspension change. Pulling out the 74 Camaro front to install a newer suspension.

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

Well the subframe change on the Buick will be going a different route. What looked good on paper is too wide in real life. Went to school on that one.

So was able to get back on the Burb this week end. The end of the rust repair is in sight....right side almost done except for the front lower fender mounting area. Hope to replace that next week end, mount fenders for marking where the nuts should go, weld in the flanged nuts (thanks again Jim!) then call this part good enough.

Butt welded new metal in on about 40 inches of rusted areas on the right side.....lotta tacking and grinding. Feels like the movie Ground Hog Day. Just keep repeating the same. Looking forward to the next steps....

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

AD, glad you were able to get back to yours, was that the crown vic front end???...Jim

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

looking good, hate to see you take time off this to be honest. I feel you on the rust repair, but its really a wonder these have lasted so long this far. esp on the east coast boy oh boy to we have some rot. the pics you show look exceptional to the stuff I see. In the end its worth it. It is nice to hop back on to something else though.

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

Jim - Yes, that was the Crown Vic front. Really enjoyed the break working with the Buick.

99 - thanks, I looked at a number of Burbs before I settled on this one....they were pretty rusty.

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

Progress is looking good.

Marc

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

Thanks Marc, have you had any time on yours? Looking forward to your, Iceburgh's and Pokerpossum's updates. Been pretty quiet in AD Burb building activity lately.

Back on the 52 Buick Saturday. Buddy reinstalled original front clip so we could set ride height and rake for a bunch of measurements for the Progressive Automotive or Fatman clip. Maybe a little low here. Spent a lot of time standing around staring thoughtfully at it and watching the Velocity channel.

Sunday afternoon was awesome shop time. Cooled off here enough we didn't open the shop doors. Fixed the last rusted area in the fender mounting area. Cut out the bad, installed a wider piece of 19 gauge behind held in initially with self tapping screws, plug welded it then installed the replacement piece for butt welding. Ground welds and sanded smooth.

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

AD-

I've made a little progress nothing as notable as yours. I will get some pics of it soon. The football team that I coach has a few more weeks before the season wraps up. Then I will have time to get back on it.

Your prrogress is looking good.

Marc

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

luv that buick, one more patch outta the way. looks good.

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

AD, Buick stance looks cool, nice repair on the patch...Jim

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

Not much to report on mine. Rear doors and fenders are in final primer.
Working on the front doors now then the patch panels on each side are roughed in but need finished plastic and sanded.
Hope to be ready to paint by Thanksgiving

Marc saw your truck on Speedway website a few days ago

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

Motor is done...just need to paint the coil covers and top rad hose and A/C lines
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...psmmqr9xdw.jpg

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

Are you getting sidetracked from your build. Lol

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

Thanks guys, I appreciate the encouragement.

Hey Marc...very cool you are a coach. I appreciate all the folks that make my Grandsons flag football possible. It is a good experience for the little guys. Look forward to your pic's!

99.. I drool over the Buick too. It is a friends first old car hot rod. Should be really cool when back on the road.

Jim..We went up and down with the ride height and pretty much settled there.

Iceburgh..That looks awesome! Thanks for sharing.

Hydrojunkie..Hmm...not sidetracked...we've been planning to hit it on the Buick for a long time. Buddy wrapped up a bunch of customer work so now was a good time. He has helped me a bunch on my projects too.

Tonight we test fit the right rear fender, marked where the new flanged nuts needed to be, drilled then welded them in. Fender even fits. Thanks again Jim!

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

That's interesting. I didn't know it was on their site. I'm sure my royalty check should show up any day now...JK I will look around on there and see if I can find it.

Marc

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

The motor looks great. A real focal piece.

Marc

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

AD-

I started as a flag coach for a few years and as my boys got older I moved up to 7-8 yr old tackle. I stayed back to coach my 7yr old so that he can have a positive first year of tackle. It can be tough on those kids both mentally and phyisically. We have a decent little team. If we win Sat we get to play in the Championship game on 10/18.

Marc

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

Very nice Iceburgh!

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

Marc - Hopefully you guys won and are going to the championship. Here, 7 to 9 year olds play flag football. Saw some really great effort and plays last Saturday and they are done for season.

Little 'Burb building time lately as we've been setting up and participating in our MetalMeet event. Brought the burb in hoping to get a little done on it.

Interesting juxtaposition parked next to a Ferarri style body buck. Here is one of the two building the folks are working in, early in morning before many were up and around. They tend to work pretty late.

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

AD, how's this event work, people teaching skills, and use of tools, etc?...Jim

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

Hi Jim,

This event has the atmosphere of going to your best buddy's shop. Guys freely share their tools and everyone treats them with respect. A number of guys bring in their welders, e-wheels, and other shaping equipment for use by themselves and others.

Experienced folks help teach less experienced folks. For example, one experienced participant impromptu started teaching a number of new folks how to stump shrink. There are group projects and individual projects. People give and get help.

Lots of free time in the shop with seminars by metal shaping professionals sprinkled in makes for a great few days. It is really hands on.

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

whoaaaa, that place/event looks awesome.

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

It's pretty cool 99...small town, nice event, great people, interesting and useful tools. Oh, and we are learning too......and a lotta bench racing / building going on.

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

AD, that's sweet, couldn't ask for anything more:devil::lol:...Jim

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

It is pretty fun, lotta volunteer work by a lot of people. Planned seminars and small group "hey, how do you do this?" sessions by experts, tools, projects and great people. Even had a bit of time to work on the 'Burb.