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Bugeyev8 02-22-2011 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan's Classic (Post 4504087)
No I haven't figured it out yet. I thought about using a coat hanger and form it to the shape and length I think it would need. Also measure the radiator and H2O pump outlet and take that to the parts house with a pic on my phone and do some comparing. Please share if you find one. It will be a while before I get back to that point. The front end will be stripped off mine for a while. BTW thanks. :metal:

My water pump is 2 inch as is the radiator, I use the exhaust preheater hose and form a shape that works and then go to the parts house and see, my issue is the parts houses here suck...and I have to drive 15 miles to the good one, will let you know what I find

daverod 02-22-2011 12:44 AM

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Looks like the lean to is going to be a good idea. ;) looks like it will last forever. What's the snow load 250lbs/psf:lol:

shortbed70 02-22-2011 09:40 PM

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Looking good alan. How long you think till its mobile and drivable?

towersddg9 02-23-2011 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan's Classic (Post 4500892)
Sorry to disappoint you. :lol:



The guy I got the setup from said it came off of a 1989 S-10



I use to have a mullet. ;)



:haha:

Lean to is done.

http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/t...2/DSC03622.jpg

Passenger side header is on.

http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/t...s/DSC03624.jpg

Seems like the truckandcarshop has the wrong pic, or is just me? I need what is in the bottom pic, the cab to fender seal. I have what is in the top pic. It came with the other seals for the fender that I listed in the previous post. The pics must be reversed. Anybody have an extra speedo cable seal at the firewall? If so let me know. The truck shop only offers it in a kit.

Allan that top pic looks correct, those are sold as a pair and fit the outer fenders, I ordered both inner and outer fender seals, the inner comes as one piece and you cut to fit, on my 65 those outer fender seals had staples holding them on the fender looks like they may have pulled the wrong part

Alan's Classic 02-23-2011 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Bugeyev8 (Post 4504144)
My water pump is 2 inch as is the radiator, I use the exhaust preheater hose and form a shape that works and then go to the parts house and see, my issue is the parts houses here suck...and I have to drive 15 miles to the good one, will let you know what I find

The preheater hose is a good idea.

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Originally Posted by daverod (Post 4504146)
Looks like the lean to is going to be a good idea. ;) looks like it will last forever. What's the snow load 250lbs/psf:lol:

:thumbs: 250 maybe ;)

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Originally Posted by shortbed70 (Post 4506186)
Looking good alan. How long you think till its mobile and drivable?

I'd like to fire it by summer. Thanks

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Originally Posted by towersddg9 (Post 4506739)
Allan that top pic looks correct, those are sold as a pair and fit the outer fenders, I ordered both inner and outer fender seals, the inner comes as one piece and you cut to fit, on my 65 those outer fender seals had staples holding them on the fender looks like they may have pulled the wrong part

Is there any seals that hang down off the inner fender next to the frame rail? I didn't take good pics during teardown. Thanks

Decided to start welding on the fenders. They are a lot easier than the bedsides.

http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/t...s/DSC03628.jpg

I used a Lincoln 135 gas welder that Shannon brought over. It welded really nice.

http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/t...s/DSC03630.jpg

After welding

http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/t...s/DSC03629.jpg

Grinding the bulk of the weld with a 3M 1991 stone.

http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/t...s/DSC03633.jpg

After final grind with a 3" roloc

http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/t...s/DSC03634.jpg

aggie91 02-23-2011 05:40 AM

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That looks good on the fenders. I did that to mine that last time it was painted. I thought that it really looked much better after it was done.

I wish I was home to work on mine, the weather back home has been in the 70's. I have been over in Austria and Italy since the 15th for work. It is about 10:40 am here and it is 3:40 am back home...

You're getting closer to completion.!!

jonzcustomshop 02-23-2011 08:20 AM

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I dont remember ever seeing a inner fender to frame seal.
those ones you have pictured attach to the rear fender brace inbetween it and the cab.
they help hold water and dirt in there so your brace can rust out:lol: -just kidding-
I seem to remember them being attached to a seperate piece of metal , I will see if I have one off and get a pic for you.

Strodder 02-23-2011 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan's Classic (Post 4506826)

I like that idea. Thanks for making more work for me, but looks easy to do. :lol:

jonzcustomshop 02-23-2011 03:20 PM

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I think you are missing these:
they are what the flat rubber staples to.

Flame Broiled 02-23-2011 06:29 PM

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Does anyone make those braces that hold the fender to cab rubbers? Mine are gone and want to stop the dirt and rocks from hitting my door.

Thanks

Aaron

towersddg9 02-23-2011 09:09 PM

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Alan, those inner fender seals do not hang down, the seal slips on to the contact edge of the inners that make contact with the firewall, I don't have any good pics, but before I tore mine down you could see the seals pushing out from time.

Alan's Classic 02-25-2011 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by aggie91 (Post 4507159)
That looks good on the fenders. I did that to mine that last time it was painted. I thought that it really looked much better after it was done.

I wish I was home to work on mine, the weather back home has been in the 70's. I have been over in Austria and Italy since the 15th for work. It is about 10:40 am here and it is 3:40 am back home...

You're getting closer to completion.!!

That's a long comute to go to work. :lol: Thanks, have a safe trip back home.

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Originally Posted by jonzcustomshop (Post 4507225)
I dont remember ever seeing a inner fender to frame seal.
those ones you have pictured attach to the rear fender brace inbetween it and the cab.
they help hold water and dirt in there so your brace can rust out:lol: -just kidding-
I seem to remember them being attached to a seperate piece of metal , I will see if I have one off and get a pic for you.

Thanks for the info Jon. I vaguely remember something being there.

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Originally Posted by Strodder (Post 4507556)
I like that idea. Thanks for making more work for me, but looks easy to do. :lol:

Anytime, I like seeing you work. :lol:

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Originally Posted by jonzcustomshop (Post 4507914)
I think you are missing these:
they are what the flat rubber staples to.

Yep I remember them now, but I don't remember if I saved them. Thanks for the help.

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Originally Posted by Flame Broiled (Post 4508253)
Does anyone make those braces that hold the fender to cab rubbers? Mine are gone and want to stop the dirt and rocks from hitting my door.

Thanks

Aaron

I haven't seen them yet, but I haven't looked for them either.

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Originally Posted by towersddg9 (Post 4508638)
Alan, those inner fender seals do not hang down, the seal slips on to the contact edge of the inners that make contact with the firewall, I don't have any good pics, but before I tore mine down you could see the seals pushing out from time.

I remember mine being stapled. I'm trying to figure out how to reattach them. I'm also thinking using a C shaped weatherstrip off of a late model trunk. Then just cut to fit and push it on. Just my mind thinking out of the box.

Trimmed the repop fenders where the cowl extension was hitting. I also welded up the other fender tonight.

Strodder 02-25-2011 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan's Classic (Post 4511944)
I remember mine being stapled. I'm trying to figure out how to reattach them. I'm also thinking using a C shaped weatherstrip off of a late model trunk. Then just cut to fit and push it on. Just my mind thinking out of the box.

Make a piece of metal to cover it, and use screws to attach it instead of the staples. Just an idea. I want to see you work more too. :lol:

XtechX 02-25-2011 10:26 PM

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I tell you what, sir... I've read all 116 pages of this build and it has been a real inspiration to my personal build. (1965 lwb). I'm sure mine, or I know mine, wont turn out anywhere near as good as yours but an inspiration none the less...Great build and great color, mine will be orange as well.

Alan's Classic 02-26-2011 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Strodder (Post 4512485)
Make a piece of metal to cover it, and use screws to attach it instead of the staples. Just an idea. I want to see you work more too. :lol:

That's a thought. Thanks for the input. I'm trying to catch up too all you do. ;)

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Originally Posted by XtechX (Post 4513740)
I tell you what, sir... I've read all 116 pages of this build and it has been a real inspiration to my personal build. (1965 lwb). I'm sure mine, or I know mine, wont turn out anywhere near as good as yours but an inspiration none the less...Great build and great color, mine will be orange as well.

That was a lot of reading. :lol: Some of it was BS, but most has truck content including what not to do. :haha: Thanks for burning your first post on my build. Welcome aboard. You gonna start a build soon?

A little progress last night. Finished up the other fender and started welding on the GMC hood. It was hard to get started on it. It's a really nice hood. There's no turning back now. I started weldeding about a 1" at a time, but it warped a tad bit. I back my welds down to 1/2". It will also depend on how hot your welder is. This was a 110 welder. First I cleaned the gap of all paint or at least as much as I could. I'm almost 1/2 way done with it now.

Strodder 02-26-2011 09:18 PM

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It's hard to have patience. Take your time. I was already going to do the same thing. Glad your doing it first so I can learn from your mistakes. Not that you make any. :lol:

bubba327 02-26-2011 11:23 PM

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Alan -You are an inspiration. And you still have some hair
But the closer I get to starting the body work on the 64 , the more worried I get. It has been over 20 years since I last spread Bondo, and I know things and products have improved since "back in the day".
Do you have any suggestions or books to re-learn body work and especially metal preparation using the new products?
I know the old skills will come back, but I would kinda like to avoid screwin things up if possible.
Bubba

Alan's Classic 02-27-2011 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Strodder (Post 4515906)
It's hard to have patience. Take your time. I was already going to do the same thing. Glad your doing it first so I can learn from your mistakes. Not that you make any. :lol:

Your funny, all mistakes are posted here to help others not to repeat my misfortunes. ;)

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Originally Posted by bubba327 (Post 4516219)
Alan -You are an inspiration. And you still have some hair
But the closer I get to starting the body work on the 64 , the more worried I get. It has been over 20 years since I last spread Bondo, and I know things and products have improved since "back in the day".
Do you have any suggestions or books to re-learn body work and especially metal preparation using the new products?
I know the old skills will come back, but I would kinda like to avoid screwin things up if possible.
Bubba

Thanks Bubba, your an inspiration as well. Yours is running. You say you've done body work before. It's like riding a bike. Techniques are pretty much the same for fillers. Yes the chemicals have gotten better. The best advice is to read the label of the product you are using. The manufacturer knows the product more than anyone. If you have a specific question hit me up. I will try to help. If you think you might screw something up just start in a small spot until you get back in the saddle. That way product waste will be minimal. ;)

bubba327 02-27-2011 01:08 AM

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Okay Alan Question Time!! I remember you prefer Evercoat Rage.. What is the difference between the Rage, Rage gold and Xtreme and Quantam and Z-grip ? What is the best one to use and how do you choose?? Back in the day Bondo was the only choice.

Alan's Classic 02-27-2011 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by bubba327 (Post 4516513)
Okay Alan Question Time!! I remember you prefer Evercoat Rage.. What is the difference between the Rage, Rage gold and Xtreme and Quantam and Z-grip ? What is the best one to use and how do you choose?? Back in the day Bondo was the only choice.

I have used all but quantam. I have been using xtreme for at least 7 years. It's my choice over the others. I haven't checked prices on the others lately. If I remember right zgrip is considerabaly cheaper.It's thicker compared to xtreme. Xtreme will run off the mixing board if your not careful especially in the hot months. xtreme can't not be applied heavily. It will run off a verticle panel. That's exaggerated some, but it will sag. Rage and gold fall in between xtreme and zgrip. That's my .02 from a vague memmory. :lol: Did I answer your question?

bubba327 02-27-2011 01:53 AM

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Yes Alan you did . Other searchs around the internet show lots of guys prefer Gold for the heavier and vertical work and extreme for the finish work and spot putty/Glaze. Summer Heat is not an issue right now , It is way below freezing here tonight . I will wait until warmer days before starting the body work.
I think I will start with the Gold since a lot will end up on the floor.
Thanks again Alan

allaboutchevelles 02-27-2011 08:47 PM

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Hey guys, I had just asked the same questions about a month ago. After I went down to carquest and saw the price of the rage filler for 60 dollars, I instead bought the 3M body filler for 30 dollars. Im no body man plus im not building a show truck, only a weekend cruiser. I have used it a few times so far and seems to spread pretty good with no pinholes. If anyone has had any issues with this filler please let me know, thanks. Thats my .02

my build thread 64 C10: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=439559

sdailey 02-27-2011 09:08 PM

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Here's a pic of the guru at work. I knew how to remove paint by sanding it, but apparently Alan prefers the "set a fire to it and remove it method".:lol:


http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...1/IMG_0631.jpg

daverod 02-27-2011 10:04 PM

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:lol::lol: I use the same method to get rid of bondo.:devil:

Palf70Step 02-27-2011 11:27 PM

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I used the same method (sorta of...a welder) to get rid of 6 inches of hair:uhmk::banghead::dohh:

XtechX 02-28-2011 12:43 PM

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I've been working on a '65 c10 lwb all winter, doing body work when I can get the garage warm enough..lol. It's coming along pretty well, I guess, I'm waiting for the engine to get back from the builder this week so thats more good progress. Remember ONE THING AT A TIME IS PROGRESS. That saying keeps me going...lol.

Alan's Classic 02-28-2011 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sdailey (Post 4518416)
Here's a pic of the guru at work. I knew how to remove paint by sanding it, but apparently Alan prefers the "set a fire to it and remove it method".:lol:

Guru........:haha:

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Originally Posted by daverod (Post 4518586)
:lol::lol: I use the same method to get rid of bondo.:devil:

:metal:

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Originally Posted by Palf70Step (Post 4518844)
I used the same method (sorta of...a welder) to get rid of 6 inches of hair:uhmk::banghead::dohh:

Please explain. :lol:

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Originally Posted by XtechX (Post 4519857)
I've been working on a '65 c10 lwb all winter, doing body work when I can get the garage warm enough..lol. It's coming along pretty well, I guess, I'm waiting for the engine to get back from the builder this week so thats more good progress. Remember ONE THING AT A TIME IS PROGRESS. That saying keeps me going...lol.

I'm glad my "One thing at a time is progress" helps. I tend to forget it sometimes. :lol:

Do you know how to create your own build? If you have questions please ask. We all like to see other trucks being worked on.

56taskforce 02-28-2011 07:32 PM

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Allen I just spent the better part of three days here in your build thread, I am in ah and find myself at a total loss of words GEAT WORK!!!!:metal:
I have started reading because I have got two 64s that I need to replace floors and door sills on and got way more than I bargained for not just how to dos that will help me on my trucks but some positive life lessons as well Thank You
I will be eagerly waiting every update to see what you are up to next:truck:
now I must do something constructive :uhmk:

bubba327 02-28-2011 09:37 PM

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Just noticed that "Alan's Classic" is now listed in the moderator section!
Thank you!!
Now you have an official reason to spend lots of time online!!:metal:

Alan's Classic 03-01-2011 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 56taskforce (Post 4520659)
Allen I just spent the better part of three days here in your build thread, I am in ah and find myself at a total loss of words GEAT WORK!!!!:metal:
I have started reading because I have got two 64s that I need to replace floors and door sills on and got way more than I bargained for not just how to dos that will help me on my trucks but some positive life lessons as well Thank You
I will be eagerly waiting every update to see what you are up to next:truck:
now I must do something constructive :uhmk:

Thanks taskforce, your probably more familiar with my truck than I am at the moment. I have PADD "Project attention Defeciet Disorder" :haha: I can't stay focused on any one thing. My goal in the near future is to button up the engine, get the glass in, finish the bed, hood and fenders.

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Originally Posted by bubba327 (Post 4520985)
Just noticed that "Alan's Classic" is now listed in the moderator section!
Thank you!!
Now you have an official reason to spend lots of time online!!:metal:

What have I gotten myself into. J/K ;) My wife ask me last night when I told her "Does that mean you will be on the computer even more now." :waah: I just want to give back to a great Forum. :metal:

56taskforce 03-01-2011 01:58 AM

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I have PADD "Project attention Defeciet Disorder" I can't stay focused on any one thing.
:lol:
Like I can focus on any one thing I have two 64s one GMC and one Chevy then there is two 56s one GMC and one Chevy then a 57 Chevy and a 71 Chevy. That is three two tons, one one and a half ton, and one one ton and they are all dump trucks. You see I not only have many they are big:lol: You can see the 56 here http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...335636&page=17posting #412 it is a work in progress. The 64 GMC is kind of a rust bucket but has pretty much all new drive train I use it to pull a 12 ton equipment trailer and a 14,000 lbs mini excavator around, The 64 Chevy is a just started project, the 71 is the first I started but got put on the back burner in fact I think I am going to pull the dump box off and turn it in to a slammed dually pickup, I have been thinking about using step side fenders and a fleet side box to build a never offered but factory looking dually box. The 57 Chevy and the 56 GMC are pretty much parts trucks that I am ready to remove all useable parts from and scrap the rest to help fund the others.
So you think you have PADD:dohh:

BTW Keep watching although you have some pretty big shoes to fill and I am not even going to try I will be starting a build thread for my 64 C60 soon I hope:mm:

Alan's Classic 03-01-2011 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 56taskforce (Post 4521717)
:lol:
Like I can focus on any one thing I have two 64s one GMC and one Chevy then there is two 56s one GMC and one Chevy then a 57 Chevy and a 71 Chevy. That is three two tons, one one and a half ton, and one one ton and they are all dump trucks. You see I not only have many they are big:lol: You can see the 56 here http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...335636&page=17posting #412 it is a work in progress. The 64 GMC is kind of a rust bucket but has pretty much all new drive train I use it to pull a 12 ton equipment trailer and a 14,000 lbs mini excavator around, The 64 Chevy is a just started project, the 71 is the first I started but got put on the back burner in fact I think I am going to pull the dump box off and turn it in to a slammed dually pickup, I have been thinking about using step side fenders and a fleet side box to build a never offered but factory looking dually box. The 57 Chevy and the 56 GMC are pretty much parts trucks that I am ready to remove all useable parts from and scrap the rest to help fund the others.
So you think you have PADD:dohh:

BTW Keep watching although you have some pretty big shoes to fill and I am not even going to try I will be starting a build thread for my 64 C60 soon I hope:mm:

I'd say you are ate up with PADD. :lol: I'm just trying to concentrate on one project now. There isn't enough time in the day for any others. ;)

Slowing down at work some. Also found out they will be renovating our bodyshop in a few months. That means I need to get it done and out of there before the contractors show up. Blocked some on it today.

daverod 03-01-2011 07:06 PM

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Needed somthing to get you going.:lol::lol:

Alan's Classic 03-01-2011 08:38 PM

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Needed somthing to get you going.:lol::lol:

Now I have a deadline. So to speak. ;)

I'm thinking about squaring these edges off what do y'all think. The more I look at it the more I need to do it. Or am I just being anal? :lol: Most will not even notice it when looking at it. I've spent a lot of time looking at it while making it and sanding it. :lol: Getting it smooth on the lower inner corners where it is attached to the inner bedside is a PITA.

ruffrida2005 03-01-2011 09:18 PM

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I think it would look cleaner if it was squared off.

daverod 03-01-2011 09:37 PM

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Is'nt it covered by the wood? If it is then your way to anal, but do it anyway. :lol:

Strodder 03-01-2011 10:34 PM

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Yeah what Dave said??? Square it off or round it off. Looks like factory the way it is now. Which is good too.

Alan's Classic 03-02-2011 01:17 AM

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I think it would look cleaner if it was squared off.


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Is'nt it covered by the wood? If it is then your way to anal, but do it anyway. :lol:

No, it sits on top of the wood.

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Originally Posted by Strodder (Post 4523533)
Yeah what Dave said??? Square it off or round it off. Looks like factory the way it is now. Which is good too.

Thanks for the reinforcement. Something else to do. Yeah!!


Wiped the front of the fenders and ground the hood. While sanding the fender I noticed I didn't weld all the way around. You'd think as long as I have been doing this it wouldn't happen. Oh well.

daverod 03-02-2011 01:21 AM

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Hood looks nice. I'm still sanding on mine.;)

shortbed70 03-02-2011 01:23 AM

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I thought you already had your hood done? Guess I was wrong..Looking good Alan
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