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jaros44sr 07-19-2018 01:19 PM

Re: PO has me PO'd
 
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jaros44sr 08-06-2018 11:58 AM

Re: PO has me PO'd
 
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1795/...839e893b_c.jpg[url=https://flic.kr/p/L7au3p]20180806_113815

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Started to work on the FAST harnesses again, while some of the leads need to be used, not all of the XIM, the harness leads for the XFI are used while some of the XIM are duplicated( such as the MAP), but there may be more, as I hook this up
1 of the leads that are coming out of the XFI harness is for the crank sensor, that I won't be using, was told by FAST to just ignore or cut off, since my XIM harness has the leads for crank and cam sensors from my EFI parts, I've changed the connections so I can plug in directly to the 2 sensors

Now to hole saw(1 1/4") into my firewall, going to slice grommet and super glue back together, don't feel like depinning all the connecters to get it through grommet

Connections I am working on now;

DS and PS coil driver

Cam/ hall effects

Cam and Crank sensors

ground(-)

AJs72K5 09-21-2018 08:59 PM

Re: PO has me PO'd
 
With all the time and effort you're spending on this, that harness from FAST is cheap looking. Consider replacing that convoluted tubing with some braided sleeving from Wirecare Just a thought.

jaros44sr 09-22-2018 09:21 AM

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AJ, I agree with you 100%, but this was my last attempt to resolve the issue

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4618/...2e0bb555_c.jpg[url=https://flic.kr/p/FPtFum]20180131_093349

Needless to say, after two new harness's, I'm taking baby steps....

I have the wrap you are referring too

Post #2901 was a debacle

jaros44sr 10-06-2018 10:00 AM

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Milestone of sorts....Shifter cart is running, will post up pics as soon as I can get them off of my Iphone, maybe some track time before winter flys

jaros44sr 10-22-2018 11:50 AM

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richard2717 10-22-2018 11:55 AM

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Jim
You got way more patience than I do. Looks like you moving right along though
Richard

jaros44sr 10-22-2018 01:31 PM

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https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1916/...e7c8bdc0_c.jpg[url=https://flic.kr/p/2bdwtRu]20181022_132509

This pic shows where to insert tool, locking tab is at 12 o'clock, but only have insert about 1/8" to engage lock, then rock tool up and down. then install tool at 6 o'clock to remove wire

jaros44sr 10-22-2018 01:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by richard2717 (Post 8369452)
Jim
You got way more patience than I do. Looks like you moving right along though
Richard

You made me chuckle, just can't get all the connecters through the size hole that's needed for the firewall grommet, don't know why they wouldn't put the grommet on the harness before the connecters

This the beginning of my build season

Have to go back and edit the pics for slplanng

jaros44sr 10-25-2018 12:14 PM

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https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1964/...7585b57d_c.jpg[url=https://flic.kr/p/29zRZJo]20181023_105308[

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1952/...42b4e794_c.jpg[url=https://flic.kr/p/2b1rGjZ]20181025_094122

The tape wants to roll, memory. Found this gold plated tool in her toolbox( she passsed several months ago). A note hand written by her said "tools go to Jim" and her retirement clock. tools were gold plated when she retired from CPPC. She was the only woman in the engineering dept.. And her job was to repair broken wires the size of your hair. Company built guidance controls for the Apollo moon shot

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jaros44sr 10-28-2018 09:45 AM

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jaros44sr 10-29-2018 05:22 PM

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Date coded '67


https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1911/...b17a4f7c_c.jpg[url=https://flic.kr/p/2cv93Sx]20181029_120152

Now I have to find some red and clear lenses

jaros44sr 11-01-2018 02:17 PM

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Cam/ Hall effect

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1925/...97b28715_c.jpg[url=https://flic.kr/p/2cv6UWh]20181101_133758

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jaros44sr 11-02-2018 05:18 PM

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This is where it can be confusing, as the connectors look the same, but, there is a notch on the left one at the top and will not let them connect

I use my hemastats to keep the locking tabs from reengaging as you pry off on side
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1939/...7e693741_c.jpg[url=https://flic.kr/p/2cAMx5k]20181102_113902

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4838/...9b0e929d_c.jpg[url=https://flic.kr/p/2bd3ceZ]20181102_120842

you can see better the notch I am referring to in this pic

These are the cam and crank senser connectors

Started to install some of the wire care wrap, but didn't use tape to finish yet. I guess AJ was right, doesn't look as cheap

AJs72K5 11-02-2018 07:22 PM

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You know it!

jaros44sr 11-07-2018 03:31 PM

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OK EPIC fail, plan B

went down to wires before it would pass thru grommet

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AJs72K5 11-09-2018 12:09 AM

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That rubber inside the grommet will stretch. It's a bear, but it will. I have two of those on the truck, one for the FAST wiring and another for misc stuff. The second one has over an inch of wiring thru it, wrapped in braided sleeve. Getting the 4L80 harness and plug thru it was a nightmare...until I got creative.

Here's what I did.... I took a transmission funnel (lubed with lithium grease) and gradually ran it thru the grommet to open it up. Think speculum. Then cut the end of the funnel off and passed everything thru. Pulled the funnel back out and cut it off the harness.

jaros44sr 11-09-2018 05:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AJs72K5 (Post 8380655)
That rubber inside the grommet will stretch. It's a bear, but it will. I have two of those on the truck, one for the FAST wiring and another for misc stuff. The second one has over an inch of wiring thru it, wrapped in braided sleeve. Getting the 4L80 harness and plug thru it was a nightmare...until I got creative.

Here's what I did.... I took a transmission funnel (lubed with lithium grease) and gradually ran it thru the grommet to open it up. Think speculum. Then cut the end of the funnel off and passed everything thru. Pulled the funnel back out and cut it off the harness.

Thanks for the tip!!! Bear, is a understatement, there were times, it woundn't budge. I was thinking lube, but wasn't sure.

Waiting for my 1 1/2" sheathing to come in from( F-6) Wire Care, then I can put it all back together, and start to make my connections

Thanks for the help

jaros44sr 11-15-2018 06:51 PM

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https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4893/...ae027326_c.jpg[url=https://flic.kr/p/2bwTmvD]20181115_120946

With my skills of rod tying and fly tying, I may have found a way to keep the skrunky sound out my shielding, wraping thread around it seems to keep it aligned, we'll see as I keep working on it

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4809/...d40c4ac1_c.jpg[url=https://flic.kr/p/2cVQW1R]20181115_163755

It seems that If you twist the shielding, it will allow it to lay better...follow the white tracer

jaros44sr 11-16-2018 12:20 AM

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JMHO< but seems the rubber strecky tape wins out over the pure vynil

jaros44sr 11-25-2018 06:00 PM

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Epic fail, part #2, 1A

still scrunky, used 3/4" wire care and it slips under corrugated , with bushing taped in. Marked with paint stick to keep it aligned. Now has support

jaros44sr 11-25-2018 08:25 PM

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jaros44sr 11-27-2018 01:00 PM

Re: PO has me PO'd
 
Repin coil connecters install connecters

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jaros44sr 11-30-2018 11:03 PM

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This is the saw that I will be using to cut the hole in the firewall. I've turned the RPM down as low as I can get it. I like the grit better, as it doesn't seem to bite in as muchas a saw blade


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jaros44sr 12-04-2018 08:25 PM

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Large hole in firewall, cutting tool turned up a larger than expected burrr. Thought I was using a flow drill, 1/2 hour with a large file cleaned it up. now on to the wire harness

[url=https://flic.kr/p/2dmZGJT]https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4903/...9c15fc61_c.jpg

Afternoon spent in the Camaro, brunch with wifey and toy shop for Grand children

lks dcvn 12-06-2018 09:43 PM

Re: PO has me PO'd
 
You have way more patience that I do Jim! Looking good.

jaros44sr 12-07-2018 09:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lks dcvn (Post 8400412)
You have way more patience that I do Jim! Looking good.

Thanks Bud, but what else would I do with my retirement. I bought all my tools to do this, over the last 40 years.

I just wish I knew what I was doing, so I could explain it to the forum.

Harness is now thru the firewall, just have to shorten wires to make it fit

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4807/...295acb8f_c.jpg[url=https://flic.kr/p/PDSkHr]20181207_081647

zicc1835 12-08-2018 09:38 AM

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that cleaned up real nice Jim whats it lok like on the engine side ?

jaros44sr 12-08-2018 12:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zicc1835 (Post 8401306)
that cleaned up real nice Jim whats it lok like on the engine side ?

Shorten wire, reattach connecters, repin wires, seals, study schmatic
I guess you could say that was a test fit....
probably pull runner, to gain access

My head hurts just thinking about it.

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jaros44sr 12-08-2018 07:23 PM

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Zicc, thanks for the interest, but I may get my oil pan back up first, since the oil has drained out of the engine, I want to prime it back up thru the new oil filter and lines I installed, see what the gauge reads, and then rotate crank shaft, it seems a bit solid. Maybe put something down the bores

any work on your project or are you still traveling alot?

zicc1835 12-08-2018 07:59 PM

Re: PO has me PO'd
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaros44sr (Post 8401660)
Zicc, thanks for the interest, but I may get my oil pan back up first, since the oil has drained out of the engine, I want to prime it back up thru the new oil filter and lines I installed, see what the gauge reads, and then rotate crank shaft, it seems a bit solid. Maybe put something down the bores

any work on your project or are you still traveling alot?

Been travling alot Jim, with the fires in NorCal and acquisitions across the US the company is doing, been a busy year and will continue at least thru Q-1. only getting some of the plumbing, brakelines almost complete, exhaust next cab on for fitment hope i can do all that this winter....i been following your progress:)
thanks Merry Christmas
Jess

jaros44sr 12-08-2018 09:35 PM

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I gotta say I miss the fires I used to put out for the companies I worked for over the years(sometimes) then I work on my truck and forget it. But, I do miss the money

Maybe we can get together over the holidays, bring wifey

want to buy a bore scope, see what's going on in the chambers

jaros44sr 12-09-2018 11:26 AM

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Alittle over-exhubriant....

wires are to long, should breake out closer to fuel regulator

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4862/...252cc41e_c.jpg[url=https://flic.kr/p/2dstwQ8]20181209_094631

jaros44sr 12-12-2018 09:53 AM

Re: PO has me PO'd
 
Needed more room to work, had to pry up( about 1/4" ) fuel rails, left bolts attached, to get runners off, also v/c's

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4858/...360a294d_c.jpg[url=https://flic.kr/p/2c6hswi]20181210_112352

Now to bring wires out at coil connectors

jaros44sr 12-12-2018 09:56 AM

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This bolt has to come out to raise, do not pry on fuel rail cross tubes

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jaros44sr 12-12-2018 10:16 AM

Re: PO has me PO'd
 
Also, trying to reconfigure shifter boot, from square body turned upside down. Will have to section the aluminum ring

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jaros44sr 12-19-2018 06:35 AM

Re: PO has me PO'd
 
Note to self,DON'T use duct tape in harness...gluey mess... goo be gone

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litebulblsc 12-19-2018 08:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaros44sr (Post 8408389)
Note to self,DON'T use duct tape in harness...gluey mess...


I use painters tape to hold the wires together while making the harness. It is easy and clean to get off. Then once it is all good, go back with the electrical tape.

jaros44sr 12-20-2018 08:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by litebulblsc (Post 8408405)
I use painters tape to hold the wires together while making the harness. It is easy and clean to get off. Then once it is all good, go back with the electrical tape.

Thanks for the tip, I'll keep in mind as I go further into the harness

jaros44sr 01-05-2019 08:11 PM

Re: PO has me PO'd
 
Since I relocated my trans shifter to a trans mount I opened up a hole for the twin e-brakes, single rear wheel each. Stock console should go back to the oem location

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4891/...8dedf652_c.jpg[url=https://flic.kr/p/23pNWhk]20190105_105331

secret santa gave me a trans temp unit, waiting on mount bowl from auto meter


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