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jaros44sr 07-05-2019 11:48 AM

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Poser

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jaros44sr 07-06-2019 10:52 AM

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oil pan is up,but not without a struggle. My all thread didn't work as planned, the back corners hit the all thread, but the front was ok. I've bought 2 of these gaskets and neither on came with those 4 gizmos that help with installation
I have to open up the holes in the clamps for 1/4-20 studs. I have a press / punch with dies, want to see if it works on SS, I have to find the pliers that close these clamps

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rsavage 07-06-2019 11:38 AM

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I always glue the gaskets, even the one piece, to the pan with black RTV and let it sit for a few hours or overnight. I put the pan bolts down through the holes to keep them aligned, and also use some blue tape. Gasket stays on the pan whether it is upside down when installing on an engine stand or when putting it on the engine when it is in the truck.

It's looking good Jim.

AJs72K5 07-06-2019 02:18 PM

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The one piece gaskets don't need any glue or RTV. Just make sure the block and all mating surfaces are clean and bone dry.

Here's the Snap-ups you're talking about. Don't know how I put up a pan and gaskets before without them. Huge difference.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/fel-es72863

rsavage 07-06-2019 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AJs72K5 (Post 8554047)
The one piece gaskets don't need any glue or RTV. Just make sure the block and all mating surfaces are clean and bone dry.

Here's the Snap-ups you're talking about. Don't know how I put up a pan and gaskets before without them. Huge difference.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/fel-es72863

Of course they don't. But gluing them to the pan with a very thin smooth layer of RTV works flawlessly and holds the gasket in place all over its perimeter. It will also stay with the pan if you have to remove it.

rsavage 07-06-2019 08:28 PM

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By the way Jim, what is the capacity of that pan?

jaros44sr 07-07-2019 07:42 AM

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thanks for your ideas guys, but I sorta went with both, just RTV'D the 4 corners where it made a sharp bend. ran my primer device yesterday and no leaks so far. But, who knows what will happen when the engine gets up to temp. and full pressure.

the pan is a 8 quart, just a heads up, they didn't deburr inside where it was cut and welded so be careful when you wipe it down

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thanks for the link on the parts AJ. I just may buy them and keep in tool box

zicc1835 07-08-2019 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jaros44sr (Post 8551223)
Wow Jess, I am 2 days older than you, Happy Birthday to you as well

Us spring chickens have got to get together

we shall ...I may have more time on my hands soon ....and take a ride when it works for us ....share a birthday cheer...

jaros44sr 07-11-2019 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by zicc1835 (Post 8555366)
we shall ...I may have more time on my hands soon ....and take a ride when it works for us ....share a birthday cheer...

Well, since you're my little brother, i'll take you out for dinner, Mexican or ?

jaros44sr 08-29-2019 01:45 PM

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my shop is empty, moved over to injection connection, sure feels like a load has been lifted from my shoulders. I'll let Dale handle my problems for now....

first problem he saw was the sealing of the pump to tank, he offered suggestions. I'll post up when I get more info.

Yes, that is one of the shelving units loaded with Jimmy parts, I'll sell them off as I don't use them

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one eye instead of four
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richard2717 08-29-2019 01:52 PM

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Glad to see you making some progress on this Jim. Looks real nice out in the open shop like that.

jaros44sr 08-29-2019 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by richard2717 (Post 8584376)
Glad to see you making some progress on this Jim. Looks real nice out in the open shop like that.

Thanks Richard, I am breathing a sigh of relief, like the world is lifted. Thank goodness I saved some cash after I paid off the camaro and bought a boat. DON'T tell the wifey, I don't think she ever reads this site

Computers are installed using my mount, wiring is installed at main harness and working on fuel tank seal

Dale is a wiz at this early TPI set up, He was just out at the salt flats tuning cars

1rippen6 08-29-2019 06:03 PM

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I see a grand national in your picture, does he work on them also?

litebulblsc 08-29-2019 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jaros44sr (Post 8584382)
Thanks Richard, I am breathing a sigh of relief, like the world is lifted. Thank goodness I saved some cash after I paid off the camaro and bought a boat. DON'T tell the wifey, I don't think she ever reads this site

Computers are installed using my mount, wiring is installed at main harness and working on fuel tank seal

Dale is a wiz at this early TPI set up, He was just out at the salt flats tuning cars

Hopefully it is a quick turn around.

zicc1835 08-29-2019 10:39 PM

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great news moving the project along Jim, shop looks lonely ... :)

jaros44sr 08-30-2019 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 1rippen6 (Post 8584475)
I see a grand national in your picture, does he work on them also?

actually, I think I saw 2-3, this guy works on anything, and does outstanding work

Quote:

Originally Posted by litebulblsc (Post 8584548)
Hopefully it is a quick turn around.

4-8 weeks is what he quoted me, but at this time it doesn't matter as she is getting worked on. Thanks for following

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Originally Posted by zicc1835 (Post 8584622)
great news moving the project along Jim, shop looks lonely ... :)

Thanks Jesse, just bought an old boston whaler, so I have another project waiting to go in the shop, wish I had a bigger shop

sweet '55 you have been working on, glad the gas tank swap went well

DeadheadNM 08-30-2019 09:20 AM

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Great progress Jim - ready to drive before the snow flies maybe?

jaros44sr 09-01-2019 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DeadheadNM (Post 8584752)
Great progress Jim - ready to drive before the snow flies maybe?

Thanks Pete, yeah, maybe, but I wouldn't mind driving in a lot of snow. our car washes down here have a product called salt x, and undercarriage wash.

Your trucks look fantastic, glad they made the move well, hope you enjoy the cold and snowy cold north

DeadheadNM 09-01-2019 10:41 AM

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When I lived in MT I’d drive my k20 in salt free snow and had a good time. Too much salt here to consider it. I’m told that some car washes here recycle the undercarriage wash and it can be like brine - I’ve identified a car wash that doesn’t recycle water.

Thanks for the good words. Having a great time here!

jaros44sr 09-01-2019 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DeadheadNM (Post 8585746)
When I lived in MT I’d drive my k20 in salt free snow and had a good time. Too much salt here to consider it. I’m told that some car washes here recycle the undercarriage wash and it can be like brine - I’ve identified a car wash that doesn’t recycle water.

Thanks for the good words. Having a great time here!

didn't know that about recycled water, but I'm sure if I get the truck done I won't care what the weather is, 20 years is along time to wait, and I'm super excited to drive this thing....

Thanks for entertaining me with you're great builds and info. of said builds. I always key into a thread when i see you post up

jaros44sr 09-02-2019 09:51 AM

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now that I have the right patina( 2 years in the backyard), I want to put in a tank and pump so my balls float around the glass housing

richard2717 09-02-2019 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jaros44sr (Post 8586239)
now that I have the right patina( 2 years in the backyard), I want to put in a tank and pump so my balls float around the glass housing

Jim
I have to tell ya that that was a disturbing email update to read without the picture there :lol:

jaros44sr 09-03-2019 09:38 AM

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sorry about that, but it would be better than living in a cardboard box in Philly:smoke:

jaros44sr 09-10-2019 11:17 AM

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jaros44sr 09-11-2019 05:02 PM

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even the ones with 50 years machining have a bad day, clamping force just was'nt enough,end mill sucked into part, luckily you won't see it

odd shaped part, will redesign with a spacer and machine off all the ugly

This was my third attempt to fit over the timing cover

DeadheadNM 09-12-2019 09:44 AM

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Wow. No injuries then?

jaros44sr 09-12-2019 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DeadheadNM (Post 8592173)
Wow. No injuries then?

No Pete, just my pride and the billet timing pointer! Still looking for a solution, have a sheet metal Mr gasket one in hand, see if I can modify that

jaros44sr 09-13-2019 12:30 PM

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This may work after all, just have to order some .750 x .250 diameter spacers, give it something solid to pull up on

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this all can be removed after we establish TDC

litebulblsc 09-13-2019 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jaros44sr (Post 8592795)
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this all can be removed after we establish TDC

If you are taking the time to put one on there, might as well leave it there. Might come in handy with future diagnostics/ troubleshooting.

jaros44sr 09-13-2019 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by litebulblsc (Post 8592894)
If you are taking the time to put one on there, might as well leave it there. Might come in handy with future diagnostics/ troubleshooting.

I agree, but the installer,said "take it off"

jaros44sr 09-17-2019 11:53 AM

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SNAFU revision1 part2

mounting flange collapsed, well nuts sucked tank mount down, pictures to follow on evening news at 6 PM...camera batteries low

jaros44sr 09-17-2019 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jaros44sr (Post 8594912)
SNAFU revision1 part2

mounting flange collapsed, well nuts sucked tank mount down, pictures to follow on evening news at 6 PM...camera batteries low

Hint Vaporworx.com

jaros44sr 09-17-2019 06:51 PM

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Newer in tank pump use a standardized mounting hat, ordered hat trying to contact Carter to get specs on pump #P76088M

Can't believe these well nuts sucked the sheet metal up, bad design on my part

jaros44sr 09-18-2019 09:40 AM

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cancel search for carter pump...made in China

zicc1835 09-18-2019 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jaros44sr (Post 8595251)
cancel search for carter pump...made in China

10-4 on cancel the China pump......

jaros44sr 09-20-2019 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by zicc1835 (Post 8595581)
10-4 on cancel the China pump......

yeah, I've got enuff problems without low quality parts, heck they probably stole the blueprints from carter

jaros44sr 09-20-2019 10:33 AM

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case in point, my fault for buying cheap....

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30 thou. off

jaros44sr 09-24-2019 07:50 AM

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This is the locking ring and SS mount I picked up from VaporWorx, now I have to figure out how to attach to fuel tank. This seems to be the new industry standard for electric fuel pumps

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jaros44sr 09-24-2019 01:12 PM

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Installer seems to have been able to get quite a bit done, timing done with cam and crank sensors, adjusted valves, and installed poly locks correctly, working on fuel pump purchase, wiring to all sensors, and power to battery and grounds, trans. temp. ran and done, worked on mounting plenum, I was short one bolt.

Also cranked to motor over and got 60 psi up to rockers and push rods, other than the popping thru the 4 missing plugs, he said it sounded good

I lost 3 spark plug wires, in the rush to clean up basement, so the plumbers could install new soil pipe(6" cast iron to PVC)

That's about where I'm at, at the moment, still have to source out a welder to tig the ss mount to the tank, but need fuel pump first to check height

WOW, 400,000 views, seems like yesterday I started this build, it's been a great trip with all of your inputs. Best board on the net

SeventyOne 09-24-2019 01:27 PM

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Hey Jaros - you got a pic of your whole truck? I've bounced in and out of your thread for years but I'm not sure I've ever seen the whole thing! :lol:


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