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loudchevy 11-13-2024 08:59 AM

Re: 1971 K10 Stepside - Getting a Roller Roadworthy
 
I love the consistent progress! What's next on the list to tackle?

pjmoreland 11-13-2024 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by CUSTOM/10 (Post 9353153)
Those shims are a PITA... I honed out a set of bearings & races to a slip fit to mock-up the gear pattern. I was changing the gear ratio so the shims were totally different. It was still a PITA.

Good looking work.
Gary

Good call on the honed out bearings. That may be in my future if the front or rear gears are noisy.

I was under the impression that the gears in my truck were the original gears since 3.73 was standard equipment, and the SPID doesn't list the ratio. I was reading the optional equipment list in the sales brochure for 1971, and it says a 350 engine gets 3.07 gears. My SPID lists a 350 engine. It is obvious that someone has worked on both the front and rear gears on this truck, so it was probably to swap the original 3.07 gears for 3.73 gears.

'68OrangeSunshine 11-13-2024 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by pjmoreland (Post 9353176)
Good call on the honed out bearings. That may be in my future if the front or rear gears are noisy.

I was under the impression that the gears in my truck were the original gears since 3.73 was standard equipment, and the SPID doesn't list the ratio. I was reading the optional equipment list in the sales brochure for 1971, and it says a 350 engine gets 3.07 gears. My SPID lists a 350 engine. It is obvious that someone has worked on both the front and rear gears on this truck, so it was probably to swap the original 3.07 gears for 3.73 gears.

I'm not claiming to be a total expert, Pat, but from what I've gathered; the 3.73 Ratio was standard for Manual Transmission trucks, while the 3.07 was for Automatic Transmissions.
:chevy:

pjmoreland 11-13-2024 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by '68OrangeSunshine (Post 9353242)
I'm not claiming to be a total expert, Pat, but from what I've gathered; the 3.73 Ratio was standard for Manual Transmission trucks, while the 3.07 was for Automatic Transmissions.
:chevy:

Hmm. My SPID lists a 350 engine and a 4-speed transmission. Here's the table from the 1971 sales brochure that had me wondering about the gears. The brochure also says that 3.07 will be included with a 350 engine.

'68OrangeSunshine 11-13-2024 06:49 PM

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OK. IDK.
My '71 GMC Jimmy K/1500 was originally equipped with V8 350/SM465/NP205/ 3.73 w/Posi.
I have a 1972 Chevy K/5 Blazer Tub/Chassis out the 'Back Forty'. While it has no Engine, Transmission, or Transfer Case, and no Glove Box Door [ergo, no SPID], the Rear Differential was a 3.07 when I opened it up and counted teeth. This Blazer was originally an Auto Tranny truck.
Flint build.

pjmoreland 11-13-2024 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by '68OrangeSunshine (Post 9353260)
OK. IDK.
My '71 GMC Jimmy K/1500 was originally equipped with V8 350/SM465/NP205/ 3.73 w/Posi.
I have a 1972 Chevy K/5 Blazer Tub/Chassis out the 'Back Forty'. While it has no Engine, Transmission, or Transfer Case, and no Glove Box Door [ergo, no SPID], the Rear Differential was a 3.07 when I opened it up and counted teeth. This Blazer was originally an Auto Tranny truck.
Flint build.

Does your '71 Jimmy still have the SPID, and does it list 3.73?

'68OrangeSunshine 11-13-2024 07:07 PM

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Does your '71 Jimmy still have the SPID, and does it list 3.73?

Yes it does. OK. I get it. The Original Buyer _opted_ for 3.73 in his differentials.
Since White Fang and 919 both were 3.73 trucks, I made the assumption 3.73 was always STD.

pjmoreland 11-13-2024 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by '68OrangeSunshine (Post 9353264)
Yes it does. OK. I get it. The Original Buyer _opted_ for 3.73 in his differentials.
Since White Fang and 919 both were 3.73 trucks, I made the assumption 3.73 was always STD.

That makes sense.

The funky shims in my rear diff, and new bearings in the front diff point to a gear swap.

pjmoreland 11-14-2024 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by '68OrangeSunshine (Post 9353264)
Yes it does. OK. I get it. The Original Buyer _opted_ for 3.73 in his differentials.
Since White Fang and 919 both were 3.73 trucks, I made the assumption 3.73 was always STD.

I wish my SPID were as clean as yours. Mine has been exposed to the weather for who knows how long because the windshield was missing.

'68OrangeSunshine 11-14-2024 06:02 PM

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I wish my SPID were as clean as yours. Mine has been exposed to the weather for who knows how long because the windshield was missing.

It is surprizingly clean. The paint shop that shot Maui Blue over the Factory 522 Medium Bronze took pains to mask over the SPID. I think the PO's FIL owned the shop and the blue paint job was a wedding present. They were from LA. [Venice Beach, and their PO was in Newport.]
As an inner-city security feature, the Door Lock Knobs and relay rods had been deleted. The doors were kept locked and when picking up the spouse, she/he had to user their key to open the door, they told me.
About 4 or 5 years later I made a road trip up to the Bay Area, and Jerry Moss gave me a pair of Relay Rods, when I bought a Blazer Windshield Frame from him.

pjmoreland 11-15-2024 01:33 AM

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I finished a batch of dummy filler necks two days ago and had some two part epoxy paint and primer left over that needed to be used up. This evening I cleaned up the front brake caliper brackets/dust shields, some little parking brake parts and some original stepside rear bumper gravel shields and painted them.

CUSTOM/10 11-15-2024 07:46 AM

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It's hard to find those dust shields still intact. Yours look solid, there usually rusted away or damaged.
Gary

pjmoreland 11-15-2024 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by CUSTOM/10 (Post 9353493)
It's hard to find those dust shields still intact. Yours look solid, there usually rusted away or damaged.
Gary

I straightened out a couple of bent corners on them, and one appears to have detached partially from the caliper bracket at some point and got welded back on. The metal is still thick and solid though. I noticed that the single mounting screw for each dust shield is missing.

CUSTOM/10 11-15-2024 12:27 PM

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If the threaded hole in the knuckles isn't there, then I would suspect either the knuckles or front axle have been changed at some point. You could look up the axle numbers.

My dust shields were in about the same shape.
Gary

pjmoreland 11-15-2024 01:25 PM

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If the threaded hole in the knuckles isn't there, then I would suspect either the knuckles or front axle have been changed at some point. You could look up the axle numbers.

My dust shields were in about the same shape.
Gary

The threaded holes are there, and thankfully there aren't snapped off bolts in them, which is what I was half expecting to find.

pjmoreland 11-15-2024 01:43 PM

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The truck should be down off of jack stands soon.

CUSTOM/10 11-15-2024 04:46 PM

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Nice, so that's most likely the original front end. After 72 those holes were no longer.

pjmoreland 11-16-2024 12:21 AM

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This evening I installed the rear brakes. Lubed up the parking brake cables and installed new rubber boots on them. Installed the shoes and hardware. I was missing one parking brake strut spring, so I had to run to the auto parts store to buy some. Installed 67-70 style drums because i had an extra set already. The rear wheels are back on and sitting on the ground.

1970cstblazer 11-16-2024 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CUSTOM/10 (Post 9353584)
Nice, so that's most likely the original front end. After 72 those holes were no longer.

As shown on this NOS 360046 passengers side knuckle currently on everyone's favorite auction site!

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/rPgAA...3/s-l1600.webp

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/MAkAA...C/s-l1600.webp

This part number is used from 1971-74 in the later parts catalogs.

pjmoreland 11-16-2024 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by 1970cstblazer (Post 9353658)
As shown on this NOS 360046 passengers side knuckle currently on everyone's favorite auction site!

Looks like it would be easy to add the missing dust shield tapped hole.

CUSTOM/10 11-16-2024 11:05 AM

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Except the boss in the casting is no longer there.

pjmoreland 11-16-2024 11:08 AM

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Except the boss in the casting is no longer there.

Isn't this the boss?

pjmoreland 11-16-2024 11:11 AM

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Isn't this the boss?

It looks like maybe the spindle studs are in the wrong orientation relative to that boss though. On mine, one of the studs is lined up with the boss.

CUSTOM/10 11-16-2024 11:30 AM

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Oh yeah, I was thinking it was on the other side.
It does look like the studs are clocked a little different.

1970cstblazer 11-16-2024 12:00 PM

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The Ebay knuckle might be a 1969 or 1970 knuckle. That is the problem with converting the open knuckle 1969 and 1970 Blazers/Suburbans/trucks to disc brakes. The studs are clocked wrong to mount the caliper bracket.

Here is a purported 1969-70 NOS knuckle 360048

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Mf8AA...m/s-l1600.webp

My 1972 donor knuckles had the single 1/4"-20 threaded hole to support the splash shield.


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