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lowdownstar 06-27-2018 06:50 PM

Re: 55-57 one piece windows
 
anyone still have the template i can use???


Thanks Ray

idbeast 06-27-2018 07:54 PM

Re: 55-57 one piece windows
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lowdownstar (Post 8290027)
anyone still have the template i can use???


Thanks Ray

Contact blackdiesel or GRIMSS, blackdiesel is the one who made the template, and I know blackdiesel was going to send GRIMSS the PDF. I have it somewhere but I have 12TB of hard drives so just searching for a unnamed PDF takes forever!!!

lowdownstar 06-27-2018 08:16 PM

Re: 55-57 one piece windows
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by idbeast (Post 8290068)
Contact blackdiesel or GRIMSS, blackdiesel is the one who made the template, and I know blackdiesel was going to send GRIMSS the PDF. I have it somewhere but I have 12TB of hard drives so just searching for a unnamed PDF takes forever!!!

I sent both of them i message but haven't heard back as of yet, i know everyone is busy this time of year with vacations and summer things to do.

thanks for getting back to me



Ray

dsraven 06-28-2018 01:36 AM

Re: 55-57 one piece windows
 
is this what you are looking for?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2_p9Ol9isE

dsraven 06-28-2018 01:36 AM

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part 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iI5wEinY9E

dsraven 06-28-2018 01:39 AM

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part 3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJSBA7-o_n8

dsraven 06-28-2018 01:40 AM

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part 4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAoy92wK1JY


part 5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSDPBnEbtA8

lowdownstar 06-28-2018 06:28 AM

Re: 55-57 one piece windows
 
i have those and that is great stuff i was looking for the template to build the window itself.

thanks Ray

dsraven 06-28-2018 09:48 AM

Re: 55-57 one piece windows
 
have you seen this thread?

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=366078&page=6

lowdownstar 06-28-2018 07:28 PM

Re: 55-57 one piece windows
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dsraven (Post 8290441)

yes sir i have thanks for showing me.

I have the one piece glass kit that came with the truck but the windows didn't fit all that great so when i saw the template for the glass on here i down loaded it to my PC well i didn't get to it right away and i lost everything on my PC so now i need the template so i can have new glass cut i don't have it.
i don't know if it is me or what but i one of the members site it said template but when i click on it, it don't work.... story of my life so i was just asking if any one still had it on there PC if they would send it to me. I want to see the different s between what i have for glass and what black diesel came up with .

Thanks Ray

Roarinrat 07-04-2018 06:07 PM

Re: 55-57 one piece windows
 
I have a .pdf window template, but its too big to attach and up load to this forum.
If you PM me your e-mail address I'll forward on to you.

Aussie chev pickup 07-12-2018 07:46 AM

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Aussie chev pickup 07-12-2018 08:01 AM

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Hi guys, just wondering if someone would be able to email me the PDF template for the windows. All window kits that are sold locally in Australia are way to expensive $1300 none electric and $2600 electric any help would be greatly appreciated
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Roarinrat 07-12-2018 08:51 AM

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Aussie chev pickup PM me your e-mail address and I'll forward the template.

I have made electric window lifts utilising the original manual lifts, removing the small hand cranked pinion and replacing with an electric window lift motor out of a modern vehicle.
In my case I used a lift motor out of a Lexus LS400, which had a similar tooth pitch to the original chevy, and I cut and welded in the LS400 motor carrier so the motor engaged with the chevy regulator quadrant gear.
I'm sure that there will be other lift motors out there that could be adapted.

MD2020 09-07-2018 07:17 PM

Re: 55-57 one piece windows
 
I found the video's earlier this year and have done the modifications.
One of the windows seams to be to wide and the other works ok-ish.
I think the door template could do me some good.
I PM ed you Roarinrat.

I have a 1956 chevy Truck

https://i.imgur.com/srNnVA1.jpg?1

idbeast 09-07-2018 08:37 PM

Re: 55-57 one piece windows
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MD2020 (Post 8339762)
I found the video's earlier this year and have done the modifications.
One of the windows seams to be to wide and the other works ok-ish.
I think the door template could do me some good.
I PM ed you Roarinrat.

I have a 1956 chevy Truck

If Roarinrat doesn't get back to you, PM me your email and I'll send it to you, He sent it to me also!

Jim

MD2020 09-07-2018 08:52 PM

Re: 55-57 one piece windows
 
Thanks jim

MD2020 09-10-2018 11:05 PM

Re: 55-57 one piece windows
 
idbeast sent me the window template file

I have already done the youtube mod's earlier this year but I'm still not there, i will work on it some more and update.
I also have bear claw latches that I'm doing too, they will fit if you get the right ones.
I will update.
This site has helped me, so I will help back.

idbeast 09-11-2018 07:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MD2020 (Post 8341974)
idbeast sent me the window template file

You're welcome MD2020!

MD2020 10-13-2018 12:07 PM

Re: 55-57 one piece windows
 
1st thing
If you have vent windows I would leave them in.
let me say that one of my door came off some other truck, also my cab is a 4B, 1-1/2 ton cab I don't think if matters.
One of the mods that was not on the youtube.
I moved the nylon roller down
It made the window go up at a different angle.
the door hings is to the right and the door latch is to the left.
https://i.imgur.com/lmlc0UI.jpg?1
My truck had 1 piece windows when I got it but none of the youtube mods, had been done, so I did the mods a while back and now I am trying to finish up.
So the 1st thin I did was to pull out the old felt channel around the window and down in the doors and put the old glass in and roll up the window.
I cut some poster board to get the upper corners tighter and taped them on, also going down the sides I had to add some.
I laid myglass down on a 1/4" thick plywood and traced around and made my changes to get the glass to fit tight.
https://i.imgur.com/RF8GhKp.jpg?1

This corner has to be cut off enough to keep the window from binding when you first roll up the window and on the way down.
https://i.imgur.com/FIoRFzJ.jpg?1

So I bent my new felt channel around the window and put everything in (no glue), so after trimming the plywood down several times I have it going up and down smoothly.
I think this will be a air leak at this point.
Note: one template will not work for both sides, so I will have two different size windows.

https://i.imgur.com/4A8B80S.jpg?1

So I cut a piece of 18 ga. steel bent it on my cheep Harbor F break and cut relief cut in.AS you can see it's going to take care of my leak hopefully .
https://i.imgur.com/LIL0pa1.jpg?1

I had to make a inside piece too.
https://i.imgur.com/1PqxiBX.jpg?1

So more and more trimming and twisting I go it to fit.
A couple tacks here and there and hammer it to fit before welding more
So a short piece of the YM54R-96 felt should fix it.
https://i.imgur.com/y3D75iI.jpg?1

All finished.
https://i.imgur.com/VvgIKoT.jpg?1

MD2020 10-13-2018 01:01 PM

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When I did the youtube mods for the windows. I made sure the old door catches would fit.
I did Tool and Die and machine work for 28 years and lot's of fabrication also. but never on a car or truck.
This was not a easy job.
I found some bearclaw latches that were 3/4" thick and 1-1/4" wide ( do a search for images) and you will see the one showing the measurements.

So I made a bracket and tacked it on.
The latch is realy close to the window channel that was in the mods. and you want to hold it out close to the back of the cover panel for the window and door lever cover
https://i.imgur.com/UCGfHMx.jpg?1
I had to do some trimming just above the original door catch HOLES. I can still take this off and go back for now to the factory catches.
https://i.imgur.com/EpvFHF6.jpg?1

So leaving that tacked I started work on the catch post
so I had to cut most of the bracket off (see the sharpe lines

https://i.imgur.com/yjMkA7G.jpg?1
cut and made a filler piece to weld in.
https://i.imgur.com/5gYgAaN.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/KEeJ1wu.jpg?1
NO TURNING BACK NOW I'm all in
Welded the slots up too.
where my finger is I had to shave off a goog bit to keep the bare claw latch and cover from hitting. If you look close behind the pin , the bracket had to slide behind the door post frame see the crack.

https://i.imgur.com/E9rGGyq.jpg?1
The cove I made had to be a tight to the bracket and latch so it would clear when closing the door.
Hopefully all this will hold up and work proper.
https://i.imgur.com/eqBNcgO.jpg?1

Now I had to make all the brackets to get the outside factory door handle to work. It just barely fits behind there. I will say it again ( I would not do this again with the window and latch on the same truck)
https://i.imgur.com/8DHoEzt.jpg?1

I"m waiting for my glass to get cut and see how it all works.

slammed57 10-14-2018 10:05 AM

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nice work thanks for sharing

waybad 10-14-2018 06:36 PM

Re: 55-57 one piece windows
 
I've always wondered if this type of install would work, I have the same latches just for this when I get time,, thanks for doing it first and showing how to do it!!!!
Tink

MD2020 10-15-2018 09:58 AM

Re: 55-57 one piece windows
 
Thanks
Good luck waybad

DransportGarage 10-05-2019 01:45 PM

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Just glued the window felts in after two days of generally screwing around with them. Good enough for who it's for. THANKS TO ALL for your tips in this thread! (...and yes, it's an old thread, but deserves to be bumped!)

slammed57 10-06-2019 04:25 PM

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you glued them in , instead of screwing them in? looks like they came out pretty good, where did you get you felts at?

lowdownstar 10-06-2019 05:06 PM

Re: 55-57 one piece windows
 
i like the chrome on them myself.

Ray

DransportGarage 10-06-2019 05:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by slammed57 (Post 8605040)
you glued them in , instead of screwing them in? looks like they came out pretty good, where did you get you felts at?

I was "tickling the thread" to see if anyone would ask! My buddy had a leftover set of Trim Parts felts for a '72 Monte Carlo. Remember those 5-foot long doors? All 4 parts were plenty long enough, with rear pieces to practice on. The distance from the door to the glass is filled perfectly. I scuffed the paint with P400 (dry) and used E6000 to glue them in, but don't ask me to remove the glass...

The pictures show the profile and the view looking down.

Thanks, lowdownstar!

slammed57 10-06-2019 06:51 PM

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brilliant! I think Iam goin to go this route. thanks for posting bud

DransportGarage 10-06-2019 06:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by slammed57 (Post 8605113)
brilliant! I think Iam goin to go this route. thanks for posting bud

For all that I got out of this thread? This was nothing. Glad to help!

MiraclePieCo 10-06-2019 08:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by slammed57 (Post 8605040)
you glued them in , instead of screwing them in?

I glued a set once with Ultra Black silicone. They held as long as I owned the truck.

DransportGarage 10-07-2019 09:10 AM

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I got some questions in a PM, so I'm posting answers here:

Q1: Were you able to 'curve' these up to match the profile of the door?

Q2: Also, (your opinion) do you think that a plastic push pin or something would work to secure them to the doors?

Q3: Is the metal bead on these chrome or stainless?


A1: (See picture) Yes, I curved them by cutting them a little long, then I grabbed the unneeded tip with a good pair of needle-nosed vice grips. I then clamped a small rubber mallet in a vice and bent (pushed) them over the head of the hammer, a little at a time. Repeat about 100 times. :lol: Then I cut off the part that I had crunched with the vise grip, then round it using the grinding wheel. You have to clip most of the felt part off of the part you want to curve because it's backed up with stainless. Leave the "bump" right below the exposed stainless that's about 1/8" wide. I cut the felt using a Harbor Fright air saw, then straightened the cut using the grinding wheel.

A2: The push pin would have to be very small, and would have to grip very tightly to keep the felts from moving around. The ones I've used tend to jiggle around. I don't think it would work well, but I've been wrong before.The factory used a very small flat head sheet metal screw. The glass won't hit it if you draw it all the way in, and with the strips I chose, the felt wraps around and covers the screw head.

A3: The metal bead is stainless, and you can polish it.

waybad 10-07-2019 10:26 AM

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This is awesome and I bet the wind noise is completely gone,, well done!:metal::metal:

DransportGarage 10-07-2019 10:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by waybad (Post 8605431)
This is awesome and I bet the wind noise is completely gone,, well done!:metal::metal:

Thanks, waybad. It'll be a while, but I'm hoping on the wind noise thing...

jwhotrod 10-07-2019 03:27 PM

Re: 55-57 one piece windows
 
I have not checked about the truck, but I have put 2 sets of New Relics power windows in my 34 and 35 chevys. they not only asked me if I had tubed the cars which I had. (removed the wood frameworks) but also if I had removed the windwing windows, which I had. They not only gave me templates for the mounting holes in the doors but gave me extended window slots and stabilizers for the longer windows.
I love those guys.

lowdownstar 10-07-2019 07:27 PM

Re: 55-57 one piece windows
 
thanks for all the great tips!



Quote:

Originally Posted by DransportGarage (Post 8605387)
I got some questions in a PM, so I'm posting answers here:

Q1: Were you able to 'curve' these up to match the profile of the door?

Q2: Also, (your opinion) do you think that a plastic push pin or something would work to secure them to the doors?

Q3: Is the metal bead on these chrome or stainless?


A1: (See picture) Yes, I curved them by cutting them a little long, then I grabbed the unneeded tip with a good pair of needle-nosed vice grips. I then clamped a small rubber mallet in a vice and bent (pushed) them over the head of the hammer, a little at a time. Repeat about 100 times. :lol: Then I cut off the part that I had crunched with the vise grip, then round it using the grinding wheel. You have to clip most of the felt part off of the part you want to curve because it's backed up with stainless. Leave the "bump" right below the exposed stainless that's about 1/8" wide. I cut the felt using a Harbor Fright air saw, then straightened the cut using the grinding wheel.

A2: The push pin would have to be very small, and would have to grip very tightly to keep the felts from moving around. The ones I've used tend to jiggle around. I don't think it would work well, but I've been wrong before.The factory used a very small flat head sheet metal screw. The glass won't hit it if you draw it all the way in, and with the strips I chose, the felt wraps around and covers the screw head.

A3: The metal bead is stainless, and you can polish it.


BBPanel 10-08-2019 03:43 PM

Re: 55-57 one piece windows
 
Has anyone used the one-piece glass from Auto City Classics? Is it the correct size? I want to use smoked glass and get all of the pieces from the same vendor so there is no variation in tint.

DransportGarage 10-08-2019 05:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BBPanel (Post 8606214)
Has anyone used the one-piece glass from Auto City Classics? Is it the correct size? I want to use smoked glass and get all of the pieces from the same vendor so there is no variation in tint.

I'd like to give you great news, but I just installed the Auto City Classic smoke door glass this week, and they don't fit well in the upper front corners. I'll have wind noise for sure, and can see the edge of the glass when it's seated as well as I can seat it (even without the mechanism). One of my pieces was bought 3 years ago and one was bought last month. I really like this company, but they've let me down on this one. Worthy of note, their smoke glass is made by a different company than their green or clear glass.

My advice? Use the template in this thread and have the glass made locally. Option two, make your own template out of cardboard. Option three, use an old factory piece of glass as a template and give that to the local shop.

Others, please chime in here.

BBPanel 10-08-2019 07:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DransportGarage (Post 8606255)
I'd like to give you great news, but I just installed the Auto City Classic smoke door glass this week, and they don't fit well in the upper front corners. I'll have wind noise for sure, and can see the edge of the glass when it's seated as well as I can seat it (even without the mechanism). One of my pieces was bought 3 years ago and one was bought last month. I really like this company, but they've let me down on this one. Worthy of note, their smoke glass is made by a different company than their green or clear glass.

Thanks - not what I wanted to hear but it is what I needed to know. Have you by chance compared the glass to the template?

DransportGarage 10-08-2019 10:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BBPanel (Post 8606305)
<snip> Have you by chance compared the glass to the template?

I was one of the stupid ones. I just ordered from ACC, knowing that it would be perfect. Oops...


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