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Advanced Design 07-26-2014 10:12 PM

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Looking good 99. Are you going under the floor with the booster?

99 to Life 07-26-2014 10:19 PM

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thanks 48', no I'm doing firewall booser. I don't mind a small booster on the wall, plus so much easier to get to and one less thing to worry about riding so low.

99 to Life 07-28-2014 10:09 PM

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7-28 monday, summer is flying by. Got my poly bushings in a-arms. just used a vise to press them in, helps to just press the sleeve in first, then you can put the bushing in by hand. Got ball joints in, used my press for those.

Got one side wheel on, running outta time and wanted to work on cab. Spending a little bit more time on this cab corner than I like, as opposed to buying them, but oh well. Still have some finessing to do on it. Dang original sheetmetal has lead on it, so I kept wondering why welding new metal to it was sucking, low and behold I was scraping the lead or all metal whatever it is off.

Ordered up some stainless headers, hoping I can get them to work so I don't have to use the s10 v8 headers and so I can run full stainless system. Just chipping away with little money I get to spend. Should be ordering up brake line, fuel line soon so I can get that ran before cab goes back on. I have prolly a few more days worth of cab metal work, then onto the Herculiner.

oldman3 07-28-2014 11:27 PM

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99, wow that cab corner was nasty, but your getting it in shape...Jim

99 to Life 07-28-2014 11:46 PM

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thanks, yeah whole back of this cab is bad, here is another shot of the corner. you can see the inner piece I made here too. Only thing good on this cab was rockers and a tiny bit of the floor. I'v got like 75hrs in this cab so far, not including the 60 in the mangled dash. I'll whip this into better shape next weekend.

msaintg 07-29-2014 12:55 AM

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looking real good. makes me think i probably should have replaced my bushings as well. I replaced all of the tie rod ends and ball joints, but missed the bushings. Nice to know about the different bushing for 4x4. the 4x4 ball joints are bolt on instead of press on too.

mike

99 to Life 07-29-2014 08:17 AM

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yeah on my 51' I didn't do the bushings, did every other replaceable part and replaced almost every nut and bolt. I have the upper bushings from this kit so I can use them on my daily s10 and or my 51'. I'll prolly bag my 51' at some point and or my long term goal is to put it back on its original frame and use the dime frame on another build, so I can use the upper bushings at some point. Good to know about the 4x4 ball joints.

IWanna49 07-29-2014 08:31 AM

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Man that cab is a mess in places! We're gonna have to start calling you the Blacksmith with all the metal work you do! Great work, great patience. Really shows what is possible if you take the time.

Greg

99 to Life 07-29-2014 08:38 AM

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haha, thanks 49' yah know, all this was done by hand, no Ewheel or shrinker. though I will be getting those and a bead roller, just slowly getting the right tools. there are so many great builds and builders that don't have the best tools. all was done by hand once, now its just easier with tools. I really like working with metal and would love to learn all I can about it. on my 52' I'm doing, I started on some body parts a year ago and I'v got some hours in for sure, learning hammer and dolly is fun. I really would like a tig if I'm gonna work with 18-20g sheetmetal, but hey lotta guys still use mig too. This cab was bad, couldn't see spending $80 alone just in cab corners. If I bought every patch I could have gotten a better cab, but chose not to because I want to bring them back to life but as economically as possible. Next build, for sure will have a better cab!!! I'll have easy 100 hours into this thing.

Advanced Design 07-29-2014 09:12 PM

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99 you are determined!

Since you are interested in metalshaping you should consider going to the MetalMeet event in Oblong, IL this coming October.

99 to Life 07-29-2014 10:09 PM

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AD, thanks, yeah I'd like to go to some classes just for the heck of it. Gene Winfield (hopefully you guys know him) does classes on chopping. He did one right in my home town and I missed it. I am not joking on how busy I am and say I rarely have a chance to go do that stuff. Hard with family, a business 100 miles from them and working on my projects, all while having no financial help. I'v been working hard at my new life goals for almost 5 years, its still a struggle but I'm making progress. I'd luv to get my hands on the right tools to better my skills and save time, its in the goal list. Thanks for the heads up on the class.

Its amazing what info is on the net, once you get the concept you pretty much can teach yourself a boatload just from doing it, already learned so many things on this build. I'v been skateboarding for almost 18 years (def don't skate like I used to now) and it's the same concept, once you learn the basics everything stems off of that.

99 to Life 08-01-2014 11:01 PM

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8-1 august already. Worked on DS cab corner, little more finessing and skimmed on some duraglass. Started on the back bottom of cab. Pretty happy with the turnout on that piece. I added the tiny lip and bead on it all by hand.

started working on other cab corner, patched the inner and made a piece for the outter. Taking a little different approach on this one, making it in several pieces instead of trying for an all one piece. Ewheel might help, but I don't have one yet. I shoulda just bought cab corners. I have prolly 10 hours in all this back cab work so far.

99 to Life 08-01-2014 11:07 PM

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more pics

oldman3 08-01-2014 11:19 PM

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99, nice job on the repairs....Jim

sqrlnts 08-02-2014 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Advanced Design (Post 6781102)
99 you are determined!

No doubt! Great job 99, keep it up. I could bang around and make noise for 10 days and not have anything close to your patches. Bang on brother!!

:metal:

99 to Life 08-02-2014 11:10 AM

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thanks guys I appreciate it. doing what I can with what I got. There is a time and place for most things. I really like patch work actually, just time consuming. I'v got like 85 hours in cab so far, so I'm def gonna be well over the 100 mark with painting interior and firewall. thats not counting the 60 in dash either. next project I hope to have a better body so I can get it done faster.

side tracking........
My 52' I'm doing (few pics attached, thread coming soon) I'v got 25 hours just stripping, metal work and epoxying this one fender so far. No filler used, just duraglass on some welds. all hammer and dolly, and shrinking disc, no fancy tools to make any of this.

Advanced Design 08-02-2014 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 99 to Life (Post 6785524)
thanks guys I appreciate it. doing what I can with what I got. There is a time and place for most things. I really like patch work actually, just time consuming. I'v got like 85 hours in cab so far, so I'm def gonna be well over the 100 mark with painting interior and firewall. thats not counting the 60 in dash either. next project I hope to have a better body so I can get it done faster.

side tracking........
My 52' I'm doing (few pics attached, thread coming soon) I'v got 25 hours just stripping, metal work and epoxying this one fender so far. No filler used, just duraglass on some welds. all hammer and dolly, and shrinking disc, no fancy tools to make any of this.

Yeah that is nice work! Fancy tools ....smancy tools...skill and determination win every time. Looks good 99.

99 to Life 08-02-2014 10:43 PM

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48' thanks, don't even get me started about will and determination!!! a tool, the right tool or better tools make that will and determination a tad bit more welcoming. heck it even takes will and determination just to get the tools. thats never ending struggle there too.

oldman3 08-02-2014 11:56 PM

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99, fender looks super...Jim

IWanna49 08-03-2014 11:49 AM

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99 if you had a bunch of tools you could do one of these in a couple of weeks! As others have mentioned it's really cool to see what can be done with your hands and simple tools. Grat work and can't wait to see the '52 thread.

Tell me again when you sleep??? :mm::metal::metal:

99 to Life 08-03-2014 09:45 PM

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hey 49' thanks, yeah the 52' thread will be a very slow progress thread. all I have done is that one fender, almost done with a front fender and door. I have the 235 with 5 speed all ready to go, just needs dressed up. I'm hoping to bag the frame after I finish this project. then back burner it and only work on body parts during the week after work, like I have done before. Well now that my daughter sleeps through the night, I go to bed around midnight or 1am and wake up around 7:30-8 am so I'm good there but.... I drive to pittsburgh 2hrs away on tuesday then I drive back up north thursday night so my schedule is hectic.

I'm surely but slowly getting the right tools and once I have them and stop buying all the junk trucks!!! I can really mash em out. I like showing people how bad something was and how good it can be. Sure it takes time to get it there but its saving stuff from the scrapyard and gets my skills better.

99 to Life 08-03-2014 09:57 PM

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8-3 sunday, Got the cab flipped over, nice to see. I cut out all the patches I had left to finish the floor, undercoated the bottoms, now I just have to weld them in, seam seal and coat the floor, under dash etc, basically strip and coat the whole inside of cab. Then I'll flip it over and seam seal and spray the Herculiner on the bottom.

Doesn't look like much progress I know. I made up patch piece for the back cab support, so I'll weld that into the floor once that is on. I'm repurposing the gas tank strap in the cab for a battery hold down cause its right were I'm putting the battery. I then run a killswitch up under seat. or under dash

waiting on my headers to show up so I can verify the reducers are what they say they are, so I can start ordering up some stainless to finish exhaust and get engine in the frame.

I have to get some flexline to run to the front bags, then I'm hardlining it to the back, prolly start on some brake line soon so I can get cab back on frame for good. Then I'll prime and paint inside of cab and firewall. Get the dash back in and I'll be getting pedals in. Once cab is on, brakes are ran, clutch is in and get a driveshaft, I can actually move this thing! then wire it up and work out all the little details.

Advanced Design 08-03-2014 10:37 PM

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Looking good 99. That floor is solid.

oldman3 08-03-2014 11:31 PM

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Nice job on the floor...Jim

IWanna49 08-04-2014 10:47 AM

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Ditto. Floor looks great.

99 to Life 08-04-2014 10:55 AM

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thanks guys, I'd have to look through my notes on how much tubing I used but its well over 100 ft on this truck so far. a bit overkill and makes for alot of welding. Next truck I'm just going to do a 1x3" square tube parameter, then make the tunneling and floors in big pieces now that I have 7.5" brake. So should be able to have less hours and less welding on the next one. Right now I got like 85 hours in all the cab work, floor toe boards, kick boards, custom inner cowls, cab corners and back of cab. I'm gonna get some more hours on stripping and coating the inside today.

99 to Life 08-05-2014 12:11 AM

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8-5 Well my plans of working on cab changed. I got my stainless headers in and was worried about the length of them, so I had to put engine in and get a header on to see what was up. I'm literally touching the frame so I'll just trim the bottom flange a tiny bit. I'm ordering up some stainless flex pipe to connect to my straight pipe. and thats it, two simple straight back shots.

I measured my steering off my 51' and its about 3.5" off the block and it runs through the s10 V8 headers. These stainless headers are really close to those ones but look a million times better. So my plan is to still run the steering through the headers, I think it will be a very close fit but should work.

99 to Life 08-08-2014 10:53 PM

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8-8 Got some more of cab coated, finished up the fuel pump recess in frame, moched up some exhaust. I need to expand a couple pieces to fit over one another, get mufflers and thats done. Got engine in for good, put other header on and it clears just fine.

Having a real hard time finding a place that knows anything about the fitting I need to put on my stainless flex line for my front bags. The crimp tool is a bit unknown as well, almost seems like an AC tool would do the trick, but those are pricey so I'm not sure what I'm doing yet, thats why I don't have the front all done cause I need my airlines hooked up. I'll then run aluminum hardline to the back.

Little car show saturday so I won't get much if any work done. Its the oil festival weekend in Titusville, PA. Not many people know its where the first oil well struck oil and started the oil industry.

Advanced Design 08-08-2014 11:08 PM

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99, headers and the flex coupling look good.

How does the front line you were showing connect to the bag?

Yep, I am familiar with the first well and Titusville. Enjoy the show.

99 to Life 08-08-2014 11:18 PM

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AD, thanks. this is a leader hose they call it. You can buy them for the air compressors. The line I need is 1/2 NPT and will thread right into the bag. I just don't want to use a push connect up in the front bag and wanted a flex line with durability and heat resistance. I can buy the lines but its $40 per line. Seems like a waste since I have 1/2 stainless braided line sitting around, just needs the fittings put on. Some hydraulic fittings won't work because they are designed to bite into rubber. Closest thing I found is AC fittings. Not sure if you could run a regular compression fitting or AN fitting cause of the furrel.

99 to Life 08-08-2014 11:35 PM

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here is the line I have.

Here is an AC fitting called a beadlock.

Here is a dye used to crimp AC lines, its a hexagon, most all other crimpers I'v seen aren't like this kind.

99 to Life 08-15-2014 11:05 PM

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8-15 friday. Still chipping away on the cab. Got the dash in today, and man it wasn't as easy as I thought. But she's in. Got all underneath coated with chassis saver, down to the floor. I'll coat floor soon, just have a back corner to finish up on it. I cut out the stock brace that runs from the door pillars in the back of cab, I have some steel plate that I'm welding in across in place of the skimpy stock crap. lastly on the cab, I have to fill a ton of holes on the firewall and prep it for prime and paint, and paint dash.

Got seam sealer on all the welds and seams. I still have to strip back of cab and roof and get it ready for epoxy primer. I got a little more work on a cab corner and the outter cowls, all of which I can do when cab is back on frame.
I have to flip cab over, finish seam sealing and spray Herculiner, might spray it inside too depending on how much I use.

Wrapping up my exhaust. I then need to run air line and brake line. So I need quite a few things before I can get cab back on. Still need cab bushings too.

I want to get cab on soon so I can moch up pedals and steering. Once I get brakes done up, steering, pedals, buy clutch and driveshaft I should be able to move it on its own. Then onto wiring and all the little tedious things of the still forever long list.

Advanced Design 08-15-2014 11:14 PM

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Great progress 99! Dash looks good.

oldman3 08-15-2014 11:29 PM

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99 Looking good there bud....Jim

99 to Life 08-15-2014 11:49 PM

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thanks guys, here is one of the back of the cab. the steel brace I was talking about that runs from each door pillar. you can see the pass side corner I decided to tear up and gonna replace all that too. Sometimes its easier to just tear everything out from day one instead of keeping this and that and building around it, lesson learned as well as making larger sheets for the floor, so its less seams and less welding.

IWanna49 08-16-2014 06:38 PM

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Dash and floor are looking great. What are your plans for seats and interior color?

99 to Life 08-16-2014 09:38 PM

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thanks 49 (or should I say 51!!!!) The seat is on p.6 post 139. I posted a debacle with two seats I already had out of 73-87 trucks. Turns out those were about 2" too wide. So I got a bench seat out of an 89' in great condition. I just need to get the cover made to match my interior. The plan has been from day one a goldish color just like I painted my rims. So the dash will be that, then for sure white head rack area. So basically a mix of the gold and white and the seat I'm leaning on a classic black and white pleat. Still up in the air with it, same with carpet. I'm doing door panels on my own and possibly the vinyl roof. I think I'm goin with a white steering wheel perhaps. I like to keep some of the original aesthetics of the interior but done up really well.

IWanna49 08-16-2014 11:01 PM

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Ha! For sure! Thanks for the redirect. Now that I have a start to my project, I'm gonna have to go back and re read a ton of threads! Funny how some stuff sticks with ya and other stuff doesn't. I'll def go back through your '51 build!

99 to Life 08-18-2014 10:34 PM

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8-18 Not much to look at, but the floor is pretty much done. Coated it with some chassis saver, eventually will get sound deadener. Not sure if I'll spray Herculiner inside or not, might just hit a few areas with it. Hoping to flip cab over next weekend and seam seal and spray the bottom.

Might have to put cab on chassis real soon even if I don't have all the lines and exhaust ran. Still need to buy quite a bit of stuff, since I'm on a weekly budget I gotta keep things moving so I really want to get cab on and do pedals and get the brakes all goin. again need money for all the slotted rotors, better calipers, pad, lines, and MC.

I still have some holes to fill on firewall and will put a reinforcement plate in the inside for the pedal area.

CURSED GEARS 08-19-2014 07:19 AM

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99, don't know if I posted on your thread or not, (I'm following a bazillion builds on the internet,) But I always enjoy looking at your builds. I always like something from nothing builds and the thought that goes into saving a piece. Keep it up, and I'll follow.


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