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Give him a call and he ships out fast. He can fix you up with everything. Good communication also. |
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Thanks Guys, I have bought from him before and I posted a reply on an old thread of his today. If he does not respond, I'll give him a call.
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Makin' tracks! Hope y'all are doing ok in the snow.
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All is sorta good here. Most of the snow is melted away, the City of Kilgore has everyone on Stage 3 water restrictions and a Boil Water notice. They hope to have all the repairs to broken mains done tomorrow (2/22/21), but the boil water notice will remain until Friday (2/26). I had to repair 4 leeks so far, I finally had some water pressure on Friday afternoon, but found leaks right away. The 4th leak started late in the day yesterday, but lucky for me the Atwoods in town had the parts I needed to fix it at 7pm last night.
I have a plan to get back to the shop at least one evening this week, but not sure what I can get done at this point. The next 2 weeks are critical in my daughter's gymnastics schedule and most of mine time is focused on that with her right now. If it all works out she will qualify for the State meet at one of the next 2 events. Due to injury, that is her short term goal. |
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Got some time in the shop last night. Got the lower A-arms mounted, but forgot to nuts for the upper, and not pictures.
Also, cut the floor for the high hump conversion. Korbin caught me in the act of throwing sparks... Decided that was all I had in me last night so, called it a day. Next I will clean up the cut edge with a flap disc, squirt some paint to protect it and get ready for the rivnuts to hold the rear part of the hump in place once I have the front part welded in. |
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Thanks for the iphone help, will try, photos are its best feature.
Truck is looking good, thanks for all your build information, and parts over the years. |
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Progress has been slow, but it is progress. Between Katie's gymnastics, my work schedule, her graduating from HS, her being recruited by colleges with Gymnastics teams, my time has been limited to put into my truck.
I have been chipping away at the engine swap harness and collecting parts for the truck. Here are a couple pics of the harness that goes to the 4L80e and the two oxygen sensors. Next to finish is a MAF, ECT, and get those loomed up and added to the complete harness. Once those are together, it is just do the final loom for the complete bundle of wires to the PCM. Then on to the fuse block and OBD port... |
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This past weekend, Korbin had a goal of shooting epoxy primer on his '73 C10 this is in the shop in bare metal. SO, to make that happen, we needed to clean the shop, hang plastic, and get my truck out of the way. Well, I focused on getting my truck moveable...So focused that I did not take a single picture of the a bunch of work that I had done to get it rolling. So here is a picture of it sitting outside the shop in the sunlight for the first time in about a year. to get it to this point, the complete front suspension has been redone, tubular upper and lower arms, new/refurbished steering components, the leaking brake line repaired, and a mock up motor and transmission put in so that I can determine what I want to do for mounts. Getting the engine/trans in the truck was not required to move it, but it helped get stuff off the shop floor that was in the way...
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After getting it outside, we cleaned the shop and hung plastic to keep paint off of our stuff and the floor. On Sunday, we showed back up, pushed my truck outside again, and Korbin finished masking off his truck. His first time behind the gun shooting a cab with epoxy. Might not be the best part to start with, but he did a good job. I coached him through and helped manage the hose and filling his gun. He did everything from taping it off to mixing the primer to cleaning and tacking off the cab to shooting the primer. He did a good job. Used Tamco DTA, that seems like some great stuff. Supper pleased with the product. Got it all shot, cleaned up and pushed my truck back inside and called it a day. Started about 10am and we left around 1:45pm. He plans to return today and shot the Raptor liner on the parts of the cab while the epoxy is in the topcoat time window. The rest will be done later once the finish body work is completed.
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Lots going on over there!
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Lookin' good! Smells like progress!
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Great job so far! Keep up the good work....
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Small update, not many pictures as I was working and not taking pics.
I bought a kit from CPP to rebuild the stock manual steering box. I was lacking a plug for the end of the box and two bushings for a 100% rebuild, but it did give me the new bearings and seal the box needed. I do not know if the box was ever rebuilt for before I got the truck, so for sure it has not been in the last 37 years. Stripped it all down, blasted the outside of the box and clean all the old grease and grime out of the inside. Got it all back together and found a standard freeze plug that was a tight fit for the end. It really should have a flangeless style plug, but NO ONE local had the correct one. you can see in the one picture that it sticks out past the end, it should be slightly recessed in that hole. I am pleased with the way it feels on the bench, not to finish clean the outside and put some paint on it. |
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The other task was I wanted the engine and trans to sit at a specific height in the chassis so that the trans oil pan was not below the bottom of the frame. I wanted it to sit a bit further rearward than where I ended up with the current set up, but I am happy at this point. For now, I used a truck oil pan on the engine as the bottom of the front cross member is actually lower than the bottom of the frame rail in the stock chassis. The current height and front/rear position is OK and none of the oil pans hang below the cross member of the bottom of the frame rail. I cut out the hump to switch to a high hump because I am using a 4L80e, and thought I would need the clearance. But now, I think I could have gotten away with the stock low hump floor. I'll set it back in to verify, but I will stay with switching to the high hump as I have a floor mat that fits the high hump. Here are the pieces I fab'd up for the engine stands off of the front cross member. They will use 3 holes on each side of the engine in the cross member to located them. I need to do some finishing on them, then back in the truck to tack weld, then back out for finish welding & paint and then back in to finish up the install with the actual 6.0 and 4L80e with will be powering the truck.
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Figured it was time for an update, although no pictures.
I fabbed up the new motor mounts, took the pieces back to my house to clean up the edges on the disc sander and have since managed to loose 4 of the 6 pieces. Looks like I get to do that job all over again. I got my headers in that I think I will be using so that's on the list of to dos. Well, I got my daughter all moved into her dorm at the University of Nebraska last weekend. Been spending time since then putting my '06 Duramax back together and catching up on household chores. Hoping to make progress on this truck late this week and this coming weekend. Time will tell. |
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Good News! I found the missing engine mount parts, and turns out they were at the shop this whole time. I had tossed them all in the box with the headers I had bought. At the time I did that, I had cleaned up the brackets at home, the headers had arrived, so, I need to check fit on the headers so it all has to go to the shop.
So yesterday, I spent 8-9 hours at the shop with Korbin. Took a break for lunch and a short beer break when a female friend came by to hang out for a bit while she was out running errands. Korbin and I got a good bit of work done on my truck. While I put the steering together, he started doing the final fitting of the high hump parts to the cab floor. After lunch, we worked on the engine mounts. Called it a day once we got to fitting up the reinforcement cap for the mounts. I will get those finished up this week when I go back on Tuesday or Wednesday. |
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Engine Mounts -
Once the parts had been found, we focused on finishing those up for the afternoon. Got every part mocked up on the engine and frame cross member before she came by with a few beers. Once that refreshing break was over, we got back at it. Got the engine positioned and set down on the fabricated parts. Got them tacked into place, removed them and moved to the bench for welding. Once we had them out, Korbin went back on fitting the hump sections. He finished that up and helped me with the welding of the mounts. It is NOT our best work welding, but they are strong and for a prototype set, they will work for now. Decided to cap them as they are fairly tall, the cap will give some needed structure and strength. I know the welds are not the best looking so I don't need to hear any crap...:sumo: I had not welded anything in 6-7 months, so instead of doing some practice beads to dial in myself and the welder, I just went at the mounts. These will get me to my goal, and might get replaced with a better solution that I will try to market for the generation of C10. So for now, get a few laughs at the following pictures. :lol: |
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Nice.
The bracket parts in the header box logic was sound. Easier handling of important items so they don't get lost when transferring everything from A-to-B. Not taking them out of the box immediately upon arrival @ location B is where we go wrong. I feel it's solely because of CRS syndrome :lol: |
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I have been told that gray hair is a sign of knowledge leaving the body. If that is true, then I am doomed...:lol: |
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Pretty cool so far. I think your coming along nicely. :)
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Quick update - C10's in the Park is only 18 days away...
Had a good week last week, but nothing truck related until yesterday. My company was having a end of summer cleaning to get rid of surplus stuff. A couple of items caught my attention. Most items were done as luck of the draw for a given cheap price. I was luck enough to get 2 of the items I was interested in that way. One major items was done as a sealed bid auction. A Vertical Mill with a 9"x42" table, DRO, and powered cross feed. 230V single phase power! I placed a bid on the last day, along with 5 others. Turns out I overbid the next highest bidder by $400. Oh well, I got it at a very fair price! Learned the next day that another coworker had intended to bid but forgot the deadline and missed submitting his bid. Turns out that was a blessing for me as his bid was going to be $500 higher than mine! Got it loaded up Friday and then fortunately caught a shop neighbor on Sunday that had a fork lift and he helped unload and set inside my shop. Also, helped stand up the cabinet I bought and moved it into the shop. I watched my nephews for the weekend as my sister and her husband took a weekend trip to celebrate her birthday. So they came to the shop with me and Korbin met us out there. They had fun playing with my creeper and floor jack and was able to help get the mill and cabinet into the shop. Korbin started cleaning the mill and we gave it a general inspection. Now we need some tooling and collets, but this is something I have always wanted in my shop. |
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Nephews having fun...
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While we were at the shop, they helped my change out my Coolant Tank on my Duramax, and help sweep when we moved in the mill.
While they were doing that I finished up welding the cap on the engine mount stands. Ground them smooth and painted them. Plan is to finish the mock up this week, and then put the actual engine and trans into the truck this next weekend. I only got this one pic of my welding before I ground it smooth and painted them. Its amazing how much better my welds look when I can see what I am doing :lol: |
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Made more progress on the truck over the weekend. Not as much as I had hoped, but all in all, I am good with what got done.
Got the engine frame stands smoothed up and painted, bolted in and got the mock up engine out of the way. Pulled the front boot to make things easier and go get a few refinements made when putting them back on in hopes of making it to C10's in the Park in a couple weeks. Set up these fabricated mounts to allow me to use the stock truck oil pan and not hang below the front cross member. Looks like it is maybe about 1/8"-1/4" below the cross member. I can fix that with a spacer later, but for now, I am good with it. Also, the bottom of the trans pan for the 4L80e is level with the bottom of the frame rail. Pretty happy with that. I used a Ingenuity Fab and Speed transmission cross member, but still had to use a 1.5" spacer between the cross member pad and the Energy Suspension Trans mount. I cut out the floor thinking I would NEED the high hump, but the way I positioned everything, I might have gotten away with the factory low hump floor. :waah: I got the 6.0 LQ4 and the 4L80e installed for the final time and put the Headman Headers that I had left over from the red truck. They fit great. Will work on the final version of the exhaust after C10's in the Park. Plan is to get it running and drivable in and out of the park for the weekend. I got lots to get accomplished by the 16th! |
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Wow that Mill is a killer, congratulations on that. :metal:
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Go Karl Go! Glad Owen gets to come home. I'm a Navy HM, what is a MR?
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Update - C10's in the Park starts with a Cruise on Friday, Sept 17th! That is 3 days away...:metal:
Got the engine fired up on Sunday, super excited since it is a huge step. My harness works and all is good there, just need to make it more acceptable in its appearance. We ran the engine for about 30-40 seconds, because we saw a pretty good leak on the driver side. Turns out, I put the wrong gasket in for the oil cooler bypass block. Fixed that and went to re-fire the engine. No Bueno...Locked up tighter than Ft. Knox! :devil: Came back last night, pulled the engine and trans and got it on the stand. Pulled the pan, found that #6 rod was bent! Pulled that rod/piston out and the crank and bearings look dang near new...Korbin had a set of gen4 LS rods, so we pulled one of those out, swapped the piston to the new rod, cleaned it all up and put that back in the block. Did not have the torque wrench at the shop, so did not get any further last night. All in all it was a good night, 2.5 hours to completely remove parts and get the engine out, split from the trans, converter removed, put on a stand, diagnosed the issue, and replaced the offending part. All that includes moving two other engines out of the way, pulling one off an engine stand and putting everything back in the shop to call it a night. Plan is to go back to the shop tonight, finish putting it back together, put it back in the truck and see if we have time to try to start it again. We will see how it goes. Looks like I will be at the shop every night this week to get this ready to go to the show on Friday. Pictures of the bent rod in the engine before we pulled it out, and a pic of it with a good rod. You can see in one pic the shiny spot on the crank counterweight where the piston rubbed the crank.:lol: |
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Uhmm.... My mind would still be stuck at "WTF & Why" w/no advancing w/o an answer.
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