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beautiful speedo!

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I got a little work done. The speedo is mounted in the housing.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/DSC08185.jpg

The rearend is ready to be let down. The springs are installed.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/DSC08186.jpg

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A friend of mine had this pic of downtown Ball Ground Georgia. I think that is a 67 C10 since there's no sidemarkers on the fenders.

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Progress will be slow because I took on a side job so I can buy more parts. I hope ya'll can understand. :lol: He wants it all painted orange.

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Alan, i'm gonna start calling you Super Resto-Man! :metal:

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Looking good Alan.

Gotta love progress.:metal:

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Man we need to figure out how to cut you off from the Miatas. ;) I think he's obcessed with them.

Hey truck progress looks awesome

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cp has supposed to have rectified mismatched calipers on my powerbrake conv.kit since june keep telling me they will take care of it yeh sure! nice work bud i am driving/ building 65 fleet & working on 54 . we got some of the same taste. keep up the tread. looks great!! jw

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If I can quit chasing parts and just work I'd be happier. I was chasing more parts today. I picked up gasket kit, reverse flow water pump, fuel pump, sending units for water and oil, front wheel bearing seals and motor mounts. Tommorrow I'm going to a guy that has some extra small block parts to see what I can find.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/DSC08207.jpg

Remember I was once labled "Captain obvious". :lol: How did I aquire the new title?;)

At least with this Miata I'm making some $$ to support my truck habit.:metal: Thanks for the compliment.

OK here is the last pic of the gauges they are finished except for wiring.

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Here's the fuse panel

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I'm trying to decide which way to mount it.

Verticle- wires connect on the left
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Horizontial- wires connect on top
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hmmm....maybe you got a promotion?!?!?! :lol:




I like the horizontal, you could really tuck the wires up high, and hidden...

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[QUOTEI like the horizontal, you could really tuck the wires up high, and hidden...[/QUOTE]

:agree:

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I have to agree that the horizontal mount would look better.

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There is an unspoken rule with fuse panels. They must be installed in the most inconvenient location possible. Preferably one that requires a contortionist to access. :lol:

I like the horizontal.

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Horizontal as well. Keeps the wires up nice and tight otherwise your going to have to have a big fat wiring loom to the left of your Fuse Box.

As for the unspoken rule I agree what the heck is up with that? Of course I worked on a Honda once and it had a split fuse box half behind each door and it really confused the heck out of me.

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I also like the horizontal but . . ..... along those 'un-spoken-rules' mentioned, I think future service might be easier if they were coming out the side & then routed 90° up to keep them out of the way. This would allow some extra slack should the need for repairs sneek up on you (not that anything you install would fail).

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Thanks for the inputs.

Well GM came thru like they said. The ubolts came in and they actually gave me an extra. I had to go to the hardware store for lock nuts. GM doesn't offer them.

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This a very nice and safe spring compressor that I borrowed. I think he said it is an OTC brand. It is pretty pricey he says.

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This is as far as i could get the left front upper A arm bushing screwed in while on jack stands. I hope it will go further in. I'm sure it is supposed to be like the rear one.

Please excuse the dust.:lol:

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/DSC08213.jpg

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/DSC08214.jpg

Left side done.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/DSC08216.jpg

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I like the vertical mount. All the labels on the panel are for vertical mount, so if you were to see the panel I think mounted horizontal would look out of place.

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That does make since, but I'd like to tuck it up higher so it's hidden. I'm so confused. ;)

Both front springs and tierods are in still need to drill for the idler arm bracket. Wheel bearings are packed and installed (not pictured).

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I used a roloc stripping wheel to clean the dust shields. It does good to clean everything but does leave minor scratch marks. It is not supposed to be used on a high speed grinder. It's not rated for high rpm's. Just throttle it down.

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so... does the fuse block have to be under the dash?
If you are going with all new wires and system, maybe a different more accessible spot would be better.
ideas:
on the inner fenderwell with a waterproof cover.

in, or access through the glove box.

in a floor console (if you have one).

on the outside of the firewall w/ waterproof cover.

on the outside of the driver fender right under the c/10 emblem:D ....just kidding with that one:lol:

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You gave me an idea. What about inside the frame rail like under the driver. The brake and fuel lines run along the passenger side. Now i"ve got something else to dwell on. :lol: Thanks for the inspiration.

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my sisters car reminded me.. she has a 2000-1? dodge neon, and the fuse box is crammed under the hood right next to the battery in a waterproof box. Took a while for an old timey car guy like me to find it there . right in plain sight btw!:lol:

framerail, it would be out of view, and a clean install, depending on how low you are , might be hard to get to to change one on the fly.

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I don't think the framerail is a possible choice on even a mildly lowered vehicle. To much possibility for the box to become submerged or become saturated w/moisture (we all know how effective water tight seals can be @ times).

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Water and electricity don't play well together.

For me if its not where it normally goes it would be in the engine bay on the other side of that wall or under the seat somewhere.

Either way its gotta be up high enough so water doesn't get anywhere near it. One puddle could really screw up your day.

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Under the dash it is for the fuse panel.


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Here's a tag I got off of ebay that I will run on the truck

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I took the girls Christmas shopping and saw this rolling down the road today.

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looks awesome Alan, I have one of those 65 GA tags on my truck.... Got asked by a Marietta police officer in a parking lot for my info, he didn't know you could do that.... Yikes... I took the advice of the dmv to carry the paper work and the real plate in the truck... After I showed him everything and educated him he was, lets say a little embarrased:lol: I should try no plate like the guy in the primer step!!

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Congrats on getting it on all 4's again. ;)

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alan nice work,dig the two tone,solid work and clean as h-ll

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Alan and Old School,
explain how the old tags are used.

Alan,
Very clean, Thanks for sharing the pictures.

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progress looks great. are you running stock gas tank? Possibly if access allows. look at mount in cab corner, inside truck behind seat so you can get at it to change fuse & still very easy to get at an unused & protected space. pics on your progress & quality of workmanship are very inspirational. Hope it does lead to your own business someday. I'd recommend ya. JW

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In GA we can take a year specific GA tag to the DMV and they will register the tag to that vehicle. For some reason they give you new tag to keep inside the vehicle. I don't understand that. I have not experienced it yet. The best thing to do is ask your DMV to see what can be done. Good Luck and thanks for the compliment.

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Thanks man, it's an accomplishment.

Thanks, I think the color contrast turned out good.;)

Thanks for the inspirational comment. Once the holidays are over I should be getting an aluminum fuel cell to go between the rails. Locating the fuse panel behind the seat is another good idea. I think I will stay with the traditional location. I'm bound to change my mind before I actually mount it.:lol:

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My friend and I replaced the bushings on my a-arms with the things sitting on the ground. We were each standing on the set of 3/4" drive rachets trying to get them broken off!!!!:lol::uhmk::uhmk::uhmk::lol:

We still laugh about that.

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Personally, I would run the fuse box vertically. It looks more uniform that way as far as the labeling goes. The wiring can still be tucked upwards very neatly and sanitary. I think in the future, it would be alot easier to access the wires if you had too.

Also, on the a-arms....did you install the bushings at the same time, or one at a time ?

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I tried to install both at the same time. I'm going out tonight and see if get it the rest of the way in. It got a little scary on jack stands trying to get it in. :lol:

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:cuss: I'm so pissed!!!! I normally don't follow many directions, so why did I start tonight? I thought that I would do something that I could get done in a night. The sway bar was a good choice. So I thought. It came from CPP but all they do is buy it from ADCO. So I followed the directions by cutting off the front frame Xmember lower rivet on both sides. If I had paid more attention to the relation of the rivet to the gearbox I might have seen there was a difference.

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Once done I tried to align the bracket with the hole and things just didn't line up. This is the best it would fit going by how the bracket was laying against the frame. I noticed it was too close to the gear box.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/DSC08257.jpg

I then moved the bracket to the tie down hole. Notice how it doesn't line up with the bar.

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I know this can't be right.

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I then just assymbled everything and this is where it lined up. Now I've got to touch up my frame and find some more bolts to put in the holes that I'm not going to use.

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I could have just left the rivets alone. I still have too drill 4 holes. If this is the correct kit then I don't mind drilling the holes. I just wish the instructions mentioned that. Maybe someone can enlighten me to what I'm doing wrong. The box says it's for 63-72 trucks. I thought about posting this in the suspension forum, but it is still part of my story. I might still list it there. I'm not going to contact CPP cause they have never answered my email or even followed up on my phone call. They were supposed to email me what they found out.

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I remember seeing a thread like this where the sway bar would not reach the frame on a guys truck, he was having all sorts of problems...
un fortunatly I don't emember what it was called.

will the mount position change with the wieght of the motor, caba nd sheet metal?

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Hey Alan,

I just bought front and rear sways from Brothers that are ADDCO's as well. The front is ADDCO #117 (63-87 C10) and the bar bolts directly to the frame without the offset brackets?? I haven't mounted it yet but I am a bit concerned based on your trouble and the different design.

CPP has a technical article for mounting sway bars that doesn't say anything about removing rivets.
http://www.classicperform.com/tech_a...ar/SwayBar.htm

By the way. Brothers uses a Helwig number for their sway bars to trick you into thinking you were going to get a Helwig bar I suppose.

Your thread is very interesting and helpful as you have heard at least 100 times by now.

TR

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I wondered that as well.

TR- Thanks for the info. I wish they would have shipped these instructions with the sway bar instead of a copy of an article from a truckin magazine. The pics I took of the instructions is part of that article. When I called CPP last week about the hardware they said they get them from ADDCO. I did a google search of the number that you provided and it looks nothing like the one I have. My PN on mine is CP7423-BLACK. I emailed the tech center at CPP tonight. Of coarse CPP customer service never replied to my other email or sent me an email about the possible grade 5 hardware in the sway bar kit. When I called he said he would check into it and email me what he finds out. I really don't expect a response from tonights email, but they might surprize me. I used to be really happy with CPP's service, but here lately I will think twice before ordering again. The product (minus instructions) is not the issue it's service.

Thanks for the compliment. I'm glad this thread is helpful to some. If I can just help people not make the mistakes I make, I can see that being very helpful.;)

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I have the Addco Sway bar on my 64... It bolts directly to the frame with out the factory style brackets to lower the mounting point... It worked great... I don't know what you paid through brothers but I called Addco and bought directly from them. Mine was also custom bent to work with the dropmember and the ART control arms.. It was only $138.00

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Years ago when I installed a sway bar on my 63, I had to drill four holes. The sway bar brackets are between the rivets just like your photo. I had similar instructions and realized that the rivet location wasn't correct. Best of luck. I did recently convert to polyurethane bushings because the control arm bushing do take a beating in this application.

Rick

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Hey Addict and Rick,

Thanks for the info. I feel better now about the bars. I plan to mount them up over Christmas and will post pics. (without highjacking Alan's thread). Brothers had them on sale a few weeks ago. $100 each, $138 delivered, imagine that.

TR

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I wasn't that smart. :lol:

I guess I didn't do enough research. Come to think of it I didn't do any.

Still no response from CPP.

Verticle it is. The fuse panel is mounted.

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/DSC08275.jpg

The dash is in for the last time. It's welded and my personal photogragher (sdailey) took some pix of yours truely.

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For those of you that don't know this. When you have a sharp piece of metal that your working around just run a piece of tape along the edge. It will help some. I did this on the pinch weld.

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