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A little more progress today. Took the drivers side fender out to give it a workover. I washed it and degreased it first. Ground out the paint and found it wasnt too rotten after all. It had been filled with bondo down in the brace area we all know. I was happy that I could section out a piece of the patch panel and not have to weld all across the fender. I need to fix the brace as its crusty but it will stay.

I also decided to put the '64 C-10 emblems back on the truck. I had one and picked up another off a '64 'burb btw. Also hiding in the box is a new 'counterfit' pass fender. Looks Im going to be busy next weekend, too.

Anyone know how to clean paint overspray off chrome?? One emblem has some and Id like to shine it up.

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New fender.........

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Try a rag soaked in laquer thinner to remove the paint over spray.

I'm going to have go back and catch up on this one...
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Cool; I'll try it. I looked at my aluminum polish and it said not to use it on chrome. Thought about steel wool, too. Just dont want to scratch it up too badly.

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Didnt have any thinner so after cyphering for a spell, I decided to use some rubbing compound and it worked. The chrome is still good so I used a razor knife to scrape the paint off like cleaning glass. Then I just rubbed the crap out of them and they polished up nicely.

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Great progress and it is all looking good...seems we all know about those heavy pieces from Bondo... a lot of people adhere to the "fill it and mold it with Bondo" dent fixing idea.

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Well, I dont watch sports so I went out and made some noise today. I have been sanding and sanding and have the roof of the 'burb good now. I am getting all the pieces ready so I can shoot primer on this and the '64 shorty. I jump back and forth and I'm really sore and tired.
Anyway, I patched my front fender. Patched the brace first as it was somewhat damaged. Didnt want to buy a new one so I went for it. Thin metal was a challenge but I got the brace stiffened up and painted the inside of the fender; then trimmed and welded my patch in place. Takes quite awhile of jumping around with the welder to fil it all in.......then sanded down the whole thing just to see what Im getting into for the bodywork. Put on a first coat of fiberglass and hung it in place while I cleaned up. Hope to have a bunch of progress next weekend.

Cool to see all the new 'burbs here on the site!!!:metal:

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Nice patch work. Looking very good. keep up the good work.

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Looks like some nice progress!! Your on a roll, don't stop.
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Thanx guys......I was just reading 'allaboutchevelles' thread and saw the 180g for body work. I've been using 150 and then went and got 120 as I just wasnt making progress fast enough; meaning that I couldnt get done sanding fast enough!!:lol:

The fender has had some work done to it previously but it is not in bad shape overall. I was scuffing it up to see what it was going to require on my next round. Im fired up over this and trying to take advantage of the nice weather.

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I know what you mean. When sanding the body filler its so much work but you have to control yourself and not get in a hurry or you will have to put more filler on and start all over again. I really respect the guys that do this stuff for a living everyday. I hate having to wear those dust masks and dust all over the shop everywhere.

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My problem is that I do not put enough material on to start with. On the roof of the 'burb I found some problem areas. Prepped and filled and then sanded and realized the area was larger than I thought. I have now gone around it at least 6 times. I spent about two days over the back hatch area; finally have it nice. It's going to dictate the whole color depending on how straight I get the roof.

I met this guy once in Phoenix and saw a pic of his 'burb so I saved it. I thought it was cool and had never seen a gold paint job that was fresh; looked awesome. This may be how I paint mine....dont know right now.

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Going a little slower than I thought but I'm still getting there....:confused:; wherever that may be.:lol: Here are some pics. I'm working at getting a bunch of parts prepped to prime all at once. I also know from past experience that the more work you put in the better the parts turn out.

After reading the thread about all the new parts that dont fit, I guess its six to one half dozen. It still takes a ton of work to patch stuff up, too. Heres the grill support as I am still working it over and then my drivers fender after its done and waiting for the primer. Trial fit my repop and it fit well. Pulled the inner brackets off my old fenders and drilled my new re-pop for the '64 emblem. Im going to pull the grill and headlites so I can get my old stuff out of the way and then begin to assemble the 'new' front clip.

Ok, pics...........

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..looking good..
How come you are using the re-pop front fenders rather than your patched originals? Looked like your originals patched up pretty nice...

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I patched the drivers side and opted for the re-pop on the passenger side. Both pass side fenders were in bad shape; the one I pulled off the truck had at least a 1/2'' of bondo on some parts!!:lol: Also considering the amount of work it's going to take to do the whole truck, I need to pick my battles.

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looking good, man!! love the burban, maybe one day i'll have one or atleast i have to wait til my trucks done, before starting on another!!

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Thanks Chad.....'burbs are a lot of work I'm learning!!

Been pluggin' along today and cleaned up the inner fender brackets and shot them with some rust inhibitor. Tore off my grill support and found some things I hadn't noticed before. Dont know if they are 'burb only or if this was a 3/4 ton??

The grill support has brackets with rubber bumpers that sit on the bumper supports; hmmm? I mentioned it before, but the whole front clip and underhood has zinc chromate under the paint. Everywhere! It's peaking out to the far left in the pic with the extra bracket. Also found the core supports are rubber mounted, unlike my pickups that have the brackets riveted to the frame.

Also a shot of the 1/8'' of bondo over some dents on the core support. I could have fixed this one as it's in great shape with the exception of this poor body work. I'm probably going to just use the one I have already done and keep this one.

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Hung the front pieces on just to get an idea of my next set of headaches. Nothings tight, 6 bolts total holding it on......

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I think those rubber bumpers are on Suburban and Panel as I found them on my '65 Panel. Thought it was weird but thinking more, it might to help minimize body flex due to the body being mounted the full length of the frame, unlike a truck cab. These might hit the bumper brackets to help prevent some flexing.

At least that's my theory. :)

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Good as any, Mike; I have no clue!!:lol:

Finished up the night with a little rattle can resto. Sprayed the crap outta the core support so its presentable. I'll get it more when I have more light.

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I agree

All Burbs and Panels that I have seen have radiator support mounts that are bonded rubber in the middle like the C20 and up rear cab mounts.


The front clip is looking good :thumbs:

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I don't know about you, but I would rather fab just about anything than do paint and body work. I admire your progress. Nice work!!

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Man, I am so with you on that! I'm envious of the guys that just jump into it like it's nothing. I know it just takes time, patience, and practice...just one of those things I've never practiced and don't have the time or patience to start now!! :lol:

Really looking good Pro...wanna come work on mine??

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Well, there it is!!:sumo:................:lol: Thanx Cap'n



Thanx Nick. I have to push myself to go do it sometimes.

UUuuuhhh, no.:lol: Well, I'm no expert on body stuff but I am getting better and it takes me a long time to get stuff nice. As far as jumping in, it takes a bunch of supplies and cash to get started. I'm finally to the point that I feel I have the right equipment.

I havent updated my other thread, but I'm actually blocking out my '64 S/B at the same time, so I'm already working on two trucks right now.

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Look what showed up today.......roof panel. Now I have to decide if I'm going to cut it or install it completely. I wanted to leave in my windsheild until I was done with everything else and then pull it. It's cracked anyway.

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Went out and painted all the little parts previously posted with some gloss black. Pulled out my splash shield rubber and pop riveted it on. Being that this is a 100 point resto except for everything that isnt(;)), I cant believe I'm doing it!!:lol:

I saved all the clips to hold the pieces on, but I'm wondering if there is a different way of attaching the entire assembly. Chime in if you know; I'd appreciate it.

While waiting for the paint to dry I decided to have some fun with the '66. Printed out some flames and made templates. Proceeded to use a bunch of rattle cans (white,primer red, engine orange, clear) and did some 'art' on the hood. It was fun for an afternoon.

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Anyone know if there are re-popped versions of those rubber mounts?
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Well, after staring at the eyebrow above the windshield, I decided to yank the glass and install the patch panel. I'm going to go backwards a bit but in the end it will be less work having a complete piece in there. The worst part is the sealer!! Looks like this thing has had 20 windshields installed:lol:. Will post more pics as I go...

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I'm guessing you already cleaned out the sealer.. Cuz otherwise, I've had at least 21 windshields in mine judging by all the gunk and sealer that was piled up along the windshield seal lip!

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:lol: Exactly!! Like a combination of silicon and bacon grease!! Also, you have to really want that piece outta there; there are a crap load of welds!! I started on it, but I'm debating on just cutting the ends out and replacing them.

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There has been a lot of interest in this repair and the part so I'm going to post my progress and some pics. I pulled apart the eyebrow this morning; made a couple mistakes but for the most part have it figured out now.

The corners are the worst! There are spots welds in the windsheild frame and on the top edge of the frame. In the pic you can see the 4 welds on the inner support(antler looking thing). The piece is then the bottom slice of bread in three pieces at the top. It sandwiches the inner panel with the roof panel; the inner panel is the 'peanut butter':lol:. I drilled down from the top thinking it was only two but soon figured it out when it wouldnt come apart. After drilling up I was able to rip it out by sawzalling the spot welds horizontally working my way to the corner. The corner has an interior bracket that has some more welds which I coulnt see. The reason this area rots is due to the interior not draining and it makes for a small puddle to sit there.

The new re-pop panel has a hole to weld it to the bracket in the corner; mine doesnt line up but I believe I tore a piece out that would have been there. I know Nobby mentioned getting a spot welder to reassemble but I'm going to figure out a way to mig it back together; my only option. I'm still debating about repairing just the ends or doing the whole panel.

PIX...........

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:lol:What!!!:smoke: Your going in deep.:lol: Good luck. We know u have the skill.:smoke: You have all that metal why not replace the good metal with the cheap china stuff.:lol: Just drill holes in it and weld them.

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:haha: Dave, you kill me!!!!:lol: Hey, BTW its Taiwanese metal, ok?? Or I could spend the next 5 years trying to learn how to use a stretcher/shinker and make the panel myself?;)

Drilling it is definitely whats happening to it. I'll do a couple down from the top and a few from the bottom; should tie it all back together.

BTW, the first side took an hour, the second side took 15 minutes to tear apart.

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Are you going to do anything to rust proof the inside? Bet some people would just glue it. I think thats how they do a roof.

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I have already sprayed a bunch of rust converter in there. The corner support is the worst part and I've cleaned it up. I have the pieces cut and ready to weld. I'm going to start by welding back the welds I shouldnt have drilled, leaving some open to attach the panels. I cut the ends off and used 10'' off each side. Thought about glue, but it's just one more thing to buy; I already own a welder and drill bits.:lol:

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Well, this is as far as I got....tacked in one side and was tired and started hurrying which isnt good so I packed it in for the night. I have to clearance one end for welds; it's difficult to judge as the piece 'tater chips' into place. I need to push up and clamp it then weld the inside edge. It should be easy to finish, along with the other side, tomorrow.

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Looks great man!! Don't forget to put a welding blanket over your door glass. You don't want an errant piece of slag to ruin your glass. I put slag in almost every piece of glass in my wife's truck tack-welding the well-nuts for the roof rack to the roof skin. Just tack welding. Grinding will do it too. I'm sure you know this already, but didn't want to see you forget too and ruin glass that is much harder to replace than mine was.

Glad to see you keeping on it. Good progress!!

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Thanx Nick....I actually didnt know that. I've shot grinding crap all over and not had any issues I'm aware of at the moment. Guess I've been lucky.

You were winning the TOTM earlier.....:metal:

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Yeah, I opened the thread and thought Hey, I'm eligible. Then I noticed that I had already been nominated. I'm not too quick you know....

I just finished a couple week run of body and paint work today. I still have some more to do, but the big project is done. I really, really, don't like body and paint work. Every once in a while I have to do some project to remind me of WHY I don't like it. It also re-establishes my admiration for those guys who take something we wouldn't buy for a parts truck and turn it into a nice truck.

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I think I like it.:confused:..............:lol: I go back and forth but right now I'm having fun with it. I've always liked cleaning up parts and giving them a coat of paint. Dont know why.