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10-4 I have been following this build for a while, I am currently trying to get mine painted as well. Looking foward to more progress. Seeing what you guys are doing(paint) in a regular shop gives me hope.

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If you keep things clean (water the floor, use tack rags, wipe down panels well, etc), you can do great work no problem. Remember, this is my first time!

Panel prep and post paint work is the hardest and makes the most difference. You can fix a lot of problems after clearing with sanding and buffing. Of course, spending more makes it easier...if you don't mind buying the 3000 and 5000 discs and all three pads/compounds of 3m or something similar, you can really get a finish that's hard to lay that nice using just a gun alone.

If i can do it, anyone can if they have the room and patience. I mean, i can't lay down paint like my father in law, but i guess i could get close if i practiced some first before doing the truck. Doing an all over paint job would be easier too, but it's nice to get some of the hard to reach places.

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For a first time you are doing some seriously sweet paint work. When I do mine I'm finding more an more ways to keep the dust down..do the sanding outside..wash everything..wet the ground down..then do the painting in the shop after a good clean up with pain thinner on the panels to get the tiny debris off. Lotta work involved, but if sure pays off when finished...and yer wallet ain't drained from having it done. lol

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I don't think you could get the level of detail and perfection we're going for without laying out some serious money, but if you did lay out that serious money, they'd have it done a lot quicker. Time, money, skill. The more you have of one, the less you need of the other two!

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Yeah I get what ya mean..but it does beat having it done. The paint I'm buying is the Eastwood Brand..bought their spray gun..so thought it best to use their paint...Customer reviews are good so I'm gonna give them a shot. :chevy:

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After we scuffed and repainted the lower quarter and hood, we had issues with the paint running under the clear...too much clear and not enough tack time. SOOO, sanded and repainted and cleared AGAIN. This time went on ok, blocked it, buffed it, and hood and last quarter look good! Had parts out in the sun while cleaning the shop up, everything looked sharp, getting started on the bedwood, maybe have it done by the weekend if anything goes my way...really hope to have it done by the goodguys ppg nats in columbus:

https://www.good-guys.com/ggn-2014

Gonna be close i think, unless the motor/tranny/shifter install goes smoothly and the back widow gives us no issues. Also, if i don't sand through any more paint.

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Started sanding the edges of the bedwood so there'd be less chance of the clear breaking through on the sharp corners. Went out last night so progress was very slow and quiet today.

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Really looking good! :metal:

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Awesome, Have you chosen a color for the wood yeah ?

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Thanks guys! For the color i have a gallon of the darkest in the sample, but i guess that could change before i open it. I love red colored woods but everyone i know hated the middle colored one the most. (Green none of us liked.) I thought the whole truck was light and a dark bed would make it pop. Honestly, if you didn't have samples there, any of them would look great especially with 232932 layers of clear on it.

While rounding the edges (6 long edges, 4 short per standard board, plus using the dremmel to round the offset washer slots), i've been kicking around how to do all the staining on all sides at once, and how to do the first like 6 coats (3 at a time) of clear on front and back before just laying on the clear on the top only. I didn't want to do one side at once, because you risk stain runs and marks and it's twice the work.

I had a jig in mind but it wasn't until today i thought of how to make one sides dowels removable so that i could put in and remove individual boards for sanding and cleaning. $13 in 2x4s and 5/16 dowel rods later, i had the below mocked up. It works well, since the boards can turn but not freely, without you doing it. You can yank one board and sand it and put it back, then stain and spray all sides at once.

If i had to do any more bed wood kits, this would come in crazy handy. (and, i bet people would spend a few bucks to get a fantastic quality bed finish done, when they don't have the room or feel comfortable doing it, plus final wetasand and buff and polish) I could see maybe doing them for cash if i was done with other projects and it gave me something to do.

Anyways, below is the jig. Only downside is you have to drill 5/16 holes in the ends. I plan to hand brush stain and clear on the ends, in holes, etc, and where the wheel well cutouts are, anywhere water would get in easiest. Then after dry start doing all over coats. When all done and done, probably clear RTV to fill the holes in the ends, as i think it'd be more waterproof and longer lasting than putty, especially with the clear inside there.

So far though, working great! Been sanding on the body stands (DA 320 both sides, then block 600 the top, rounding all edges) and then drilling the two holes and putting in the jig. I'm tall with a good reach, and i may need it to stain the center boards, and reach to wipe them off! Only downside so far i can think of.

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Sweet jig gonna copy you if you don't mind.

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No problem, that's what the site is here for, to throw ideas around! I should say though, if you're leaving the boards overnight, probably better to leave them on thing side down instead of flat side down, to minimize and bowing, which isn't much with the oak but i'm thinking pine would be more.

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I think that if you want to close up the holes in the end when you're done, maybe just glue the dowlels in the holes and cut them flush. You could even get hardwood dowels if you wanted. Of course, if you get sealer in the dowel holes the glue wouldn't hold. I'd probably seal the ends good with the dowels in place to keep those dry, then glue in the dowels, cut them flush and then seal over them. They won't be seen, and no more hole.

Great jig idea by the way!

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You know that's a pretty brilliant idea, i think i'll do that. I'll get osme oak dowels, when i'm done i'll put them in and cut them flush, and then use a brush to put some more clear over the whole area.

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pretty slic jig

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Reading my posts above, can definitely tell when i'm typing on my phone. Ugh the typos.

Rotated the boards today so they wouldn't sag (didn't seem to be anyways) since i couldn't do any more work on them tonight.

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don't know how many beds i've done 1 side at a time, waiting 24 hours before flipping and doing it again. over and over, again and again... but way too dang many.

thanks bro...

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Great Idea

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Got the rest of the wood sanded tonight, need another sawhorse and 2x4 to jig the smaller boards, because i was a dummy and used the sawhorses that match to hold up the bedsides. They're cheap so picking one up shouldn't be an issue.

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Very good idea....I see this being used in the future

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Finished the jig, the final is what you see below. Hosed down the floor and cleaned the place up, did a damp rag wipe down of the boards and then tack cloth. Going to let them dry out some and then try some stain! Fingers crossed!

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Back is killing me, but got the first coat on tonight.

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VERY NICE!! :metal::metal::metal: Hope mine comes out 1/2 as good! LOL!

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Looks good! I wish I would have thought of that when I did my wood.

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That jig is quite the time saver. A couple of my dowels are crooked on the small boards so they bind some, and the two wheel well boards always want to spin down. On one end i am going to drill a second hole with another dowl so i can make them stay level. not as big a deal for the stain, but when i'm pouring clear on like a firehose, there will be curtain runs on those two if i can't get them to level out. It took me about an hour-hour and a half to stain all sides. I stained the ends with a foam brush, then a roller for the long edges, then i did the fronts and backs. Waited 15 minutes and started working from one side to the other, and it took long enough to wipe the boards down clean (stain was thickening at this point) that the timing was right across all boards and they seem to match. I had more time in setting up the second jig, wetting the floor and blowing them off, tacking, cleaning, sweeping, etc to get things prepped.

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Your bed wood looks fantastic !! Nice :metal:

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Awesome :metal:

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Got the second coat on and done tonight. It kills your back because you have to bend over to do it. Phone doesn't really show it correctly, but second coat didn't really change much. It's a little warmer color than shown here and a little darker.

May be able to get first clear on it tomorrow. And, as a bonus if i get first set of coats on early enough, you can apparently do second set of coats on within 11 hours without sanding. Figure before first coat i'll go around with brush doing ends around rough cut areas and holes.

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Got one coat of clear on today then ran out of clear....the boards ate it up fast!

Jig is THE WAY TO GO....do the ends of the 4 boards on one side. Rotate all up one way 45 degrees to do 4 long edges. Repeat for other long edge. Rotate to shoot the back. Rotate to shoot the face and leave it. Spraying takes about 15 minutes, and most of that was reloading clear. Of course, if i had enough to do 3 decent coats, would have taken 20-25 minutes.

What will take longer is blocking the boards between coats. I will likely just 3m scuff the first coat, put three thick coats on, wait a day, block the face and maybe the back, 3m scuff to catch low spots, and spray again. With luck, might be done before the end of the week.

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Between the second coat of stain and the first of clear, you could see brown dots and splotches where i apparently didn't wipe all the wet stain off.

Rather than use lacquer thinner and risk changing the color, i used fine steel wool and those areas cleaned right off. Well, i thought i had all the steel wool fuzzies off those couple boards, but after checking the first coat of clear i could see and feel the fuzzies on those couple boards (and i mean one coat, i didn't realize how low on clear i was so they all gone one coat all sides, a heavy coat, not three medium coats.)

A quick run of the block and 1000 gritt over a piece of wood then some red 3m scuff pad (so as not to sand through the single coat of clear) and everything was clean again. I wasn't too worried because of how dark the wood is, you wouldn't see it against it and after 10+ coats of clear.

I figure quick quick block both sides then 3m scuff all over all the pieces, and 3 really nice coats of clear all around. Then, after doing that 3-4 times with a day of drying in between, lastly i'll probably, depending how little orange peel there is, block 1500 then do that DA system on one board and polish it with the three foam pads + polish. Then i'll do one without sanding and see if you can tell. If so, i'll sand, if not, i'll just buff. I could block all the way to 2500, just more work than the DA.

And, because i'm an a$$(#*$, i'll probably do both sides polished so i can tell people to look underneath to see how nice it looks, because apparently i am one step from a trailer queen with this one.

This pic shows the color a bit better and you can see that if you wanted texture, you could stop after the first coats of clear and still get some shine.

This jig is IT! once you have the boards ready, in about 1/2 hour you could have three pretty thick coats on and be cleaning the gun, and have gotten all size sides at the same time.

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That wood rocks! And I used to think the wood in my truck looked perrty. :dohh::lol:

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Thanks man! After scuffing last night (all 6 sides of every piece) with 3m scuff pad and then did 3 pretty good coats on all sides (about 1/3rd gallon of clear!) I should be able to block tonight (i wasn't comfortable blocking last night because of how thin the insgle coat was) and maybe get another coat on. I would like to be done with the bed wood by this weekend, or the latest monday or tuesday, so i can bring the T-37 home so i'm not paying another month storage on it.

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Here it is today before i start blocking and recoat later, and the first pic showing how it could look if i was half as good as whoever did that truck!!!




http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...1&d=1252974186

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After sanding 600 and grey scuff pad, and about another half gallon og clear (both sides but will be just adding to face from now on), some of the shallower grains are starting to fill.

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Hey uh...:but:...if you are feeling generous...:mm::rolleyes::lol:...HOW ABOUT SENDING THAT WOOD DOWN MY WAY!!!!!!!?!???!?!!!! :metal::metal::metal::metal:

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Blocked 600 again last night, only a couple boards were really not filling with grain. So, doing the face only, i sanded the boards and rated each board as 1, 2 or 3. 1 needing the least clear, 3 the most. Then i mixed up some clear, and moved SO SLOW with gun volume putting the most out. At one point it looked like waves blowing across a pond. It is amazing HOW FAST that stuff stiffens up. I put on a FEW coats that thick. On the boards rated three, i went over them AGAIN. For the first coats, i probably could have rolled it on to get it thick enough to sand down and be serious about filling the grain.

Now, if you're following at home, this is all a bad idea because it's expensive and this much clear can crack and whatnot. I probably have the equiv of 15-20 coats of clear on (laid in like 9 coats). Probably half of that sanded off. After two days, when sanding, i can still smell the clear coming off the board even though it's hard. And after painting, i leave the garage at 75 and it's dry as a bone in there. THIS IS NOT how you're supposed to use clear.

So anyways, here's what i came home to today...i THINK i can just block 1500 to level, then maybe 2500, then buff! Hopefully this weekend.

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WOWZA!!!!!! Looks good!!!!!!!!!!! :metal::metal::metal:

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Some shots below, the ones with masked boards are the day after pouring clear on. The three boards with the sign are blocking 1000, then buffing 3m with the three color pads/compounds. You can still see the 1000 scratches up front, and the grain is still kind of wavy.

I have tons of 1000/1500/3000/5000 trizact pads, so i will spend the day tomorrow finishing blocking 1000 the other boards, and probably trizact all of them including these three, and buff them. I know it's extra work, and you really can't see the scratches because of the woodgrain behind them, but i have the pads and i am apparently a glutton for punishment. Then it's time to bring the chassis back from the front garage!

However the worst thing that can happen now is a board with no waves or ripples comes up, if one is perfect i know, i just KNOW i will be 600 all over the other boards and opening the clear back up...please just hope they all match so i can move on.

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:jdp::jdp::exit::jdp::buh:

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What I meant to say was, wood looks... Unbelievable:metal: