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ccreddell 08-28-2014 03:05 PM

Re: 1954 3100 C4 Tube Chassis Build
 
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Originally Posted by STOCKISH (Post 6819820)
Just out of curiosity, why a cantilever setup? That is designed to keep the axle centered under the truck during suspension travel. You dont have that issue with an IRS setup so it seems like a lot of extra work. Youll still need to solid mount the batwing and trailing arms so Im not sure what the cantilever would even do except just sit there, look cool, but have zero function.

No, not the locating links, or Panhard bar. The links parallel with the frame that holds the truck up.

http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/t...Cantilever.jpg

Heres what they look like on a truck.


[IMG]http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/t...d/KP6-link.jpg[/IMG]

You could put a coil over there in place of the bag. Or you could put a coil spring in there and run the shock in the stock location.

STOCKISH 08-28-2014 10:58 PM

Re: 1954 3100 C4 Tube Chassis Build
 
I dont understand how thats supposed to work with a C4 IRS though.

ccreddell 08-29-2014 05:48 PM

Re: 1954 3100 C4 Tube Chassis Build
 
Im not sure what to tell you. Either youre not familiar with the C4 IRS, or Im not being clear enough. Maybe this pic will help....

[IMG]http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/t...build/Link.jpg[/IMG]

Here it is hooked up.

[IMG]http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/t...uild/Link2.jpg[/IMG]

And here it is from the top.

[IMG]http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/t...uild/Link3.jpg[/IMG]

99 to Life 08-29-2014 09:48 PM

Re: 1954 3100 C4 Tube Chassis Build
 
at first as I look at that setup, I wonder, how conflicting it might be. But.... there are guys running it. http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f125/i...n-here-429547/

I didn't even look too far into it, if your not bagging it, I think its overkill.

Nut Case 08-30-2014 02:36 AM

Re: 1954 3100 C4 Tube Chassis Build
 
I'm still in the planning stages of a 57 GMC with 1996 C-4 both front and rear suspension. I'm calculating how much to remove form the vette fiberglass leaf so I can use a shockwave shock.. I figure use the original design, adjust the mounting points for the shockwave and have the leaf carry about 60-70% of the weight and have the adjustibility from the air system, you know adjust on the fly and all. Just thought I'd through more gas on the fire..

aknovaman 08-30-2014 08:27 AM

Re: 1954 3100 C4 Tube Chassis Build
 
Are you suggesting removing some of the the spring length or planing it down for thickness ?

Nut Case 08-30-2014 12:43 PM

Re: 1954 3100 C4 Tube Chassis Build
 
Get all the weight engine, front clip, cab doors and box on. measure the height, then remove approx. 1/8 from each side with a table saw, then see how much it lowers. When you get loose approx. 25-30% of the highest travel point start to test the shockwave with air pressure to see what happens. Due to the shockwave not being able full support the full weight of the truck, use the fiberglass leaf like a booster for the shock wave. By sneaking up on the narrowing of the leaf you find the optimum use with both. buy having 70% of the leaf in tack you could run if one of the bladders fails. This is my plan, it is only a theory, I'm still about 6-8 months before I can test this on my truck. Just and idea that I thought that I would share.

ccreddell 09-01-2014 12:44 AM

Re: 1954 3100 C4 Tube Chassis Build
 
Since when can't a Shockwave hold up the vehicle?

Nut Case 09-01-2014 02:28 AM

Re: 1954 3100 C4 Tube Chassis Build
 
I'm told by the manufacture that in a 57 GMC with a 454 that the weight would exceed the limits of the shockwave. So I'm investigating viable alternatives. Any suggestions?

STOCKISH 09-01-2014 11:55 AM

Re: 1954 3100 C4 Tube Chassis Build
 
ccreddell, I see what youre talking about, (when you first mentioned this I thought you were talking about a Watts link for some reason) It seems cool but a crazy amount of extra work when you can just run Shockwaves instead. Definitely adds to the WOW factor though. Ill be watching to see how your project progresses. Good luck and post lots of pics.

ccreddell 09-02-2014 03:13 PM

Re: 1954 3100 C4 Tube Chassis Build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by STOCKISH (Post 6825775)
ccreddell, I see what youre talking about, (when you first mentioned this I thought you were talking about a Watts link for some reason) It seems cool but a crazy amount of extra work when you can just run Shockwaves instead. Definitely adds to the WOW factor though. Ill be watching to see how your project progresses. Good luck and post lots of pics.

I need a little more movement than a Shockwave would give me, and Ive never been comfortable using shock mounts to hold a car up (or a truck), plus it will ride better.

ccreddell 09-02-2014 03:15 PM

Re: 1954 3100 C4 Tube Chassis Build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nut Case (Post 6825467)
I'm told by the manufacture that in a 57 GMC with a 454 that the weight would exceed the limits of the shockwave. So I'm investigating viable alternatives. Any suggestions?

Stock suspension?

STOCKISH 09-06-2014 12:44 PM

Re: 1954 3100 C4 Tube Chassis Build
 
Going to be parting this out soon if it doesn't sell whole. Everything available for sale.

FarmerSid 09-10-2014 10:32 AM

Re: 1954 3100 C4 Tube Chassis Build
 
Not happy to hear this Josh! Not happy one bit! LOL! So what are you gonna work on now?

tiddlar 09-28-2016 01:00 AM

Re: 1954 3100 C4 Tube Chassis Build
 
Pretty girl you have. I like the stance too, I wanted my front wheels tucked more away from the fenders gives it a very aggressive look imo. You chose to have yours closer to the fenders, looks exceptional with wheel/tire combo. I'll stalk this thread.:smoke:

STOCKISH 09-28-2016 10:05 AM

Re: 1954 3100 C4 Tube Chassis Build
 
This truck has been sold a while ago, I am starting another one right now, Project Redemption. Its here in the build section as well.

Gregski 08-18-2019 11:22 AM

Re: 1954 3100 C4 Tube Chassis Build
 
Wow, Skill Level: Expert


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