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I cut out a big section of the extra crossmember and offset cut a couple of windows thru the keeper crossmember to run the line. This was all done with the bedside off since it gave much greater access, especially tucked into the corner of the garage. I’ll smooth the edges after the floor is removed again. No sense doing that on my back if I don’t have to.
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The next step will be to add the vent line. I have some ideas but need to lift the bed and measure the vent tube on the sender. Yeah, I should have done that before the floor went on…..
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Nice job documenting your work. I like the way you solve problems. Being able to move heavy things by myself is a must for me!
Good luck, Rg |
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So, the vent is 5/8 :metal:
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The instructions for the Tremec TKO state that you need to check the bell housing centering with a dial indicator. The spec is .005” max. There’s a couple of videos out there on how to do it. It’s not too hard to do.
My biggest surprise was how much the torque specs and pan alignment DO matter, significantly. Also, clean the mating surfaces and the dowels with a wire brush. Add some grease or antisieze to the dowels. It’s clean enough if you can put the bell housing on and off with ease, and it goes flush to the block with minimal hand pressure. The first time I measured, I just hand tightened the bell housing down and didn’t install the pan. My measurements were .005” out. Next I eyeballed the pan alignment, hand tightened it, added the 2 bell to pan bolts and tried again. .009”!!! FYI: The GM manual says to align the pan by using a straight edge on the rear of the block. I figured the bell housing would be a great straight edge. Then I loosened the pan and bell housing, and lightly snugged the bell housing bolts. Then I lightly clamped the bell and pan together at the 2 bolt holes to align the pan. Then torqued the bell, and then torqued the clamped pan (center out like a Cyl head). Then I added the 2 bell to pan bolts and torqued them. Now the measurement was .001” Torques and procedures matter! |
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As always, I love your approach to coming up with solutions to make things work like they should. You are definitely right about a slow fuel fill being no fun! My solution to filling my rear mounted tank has been a bust. My issue is that my filler tube is basically horizontal as it goes straight over to the side marker light. Since I dropped my bedsides 4", I didn't have to turn up to get to the light like you did. I think that extra vertical section in yours is going to make the fuel drain into the tank like it's supposed to.
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I sure hope you’re right. Did you run a vent also?
I’m running the 5/8 vent line up to the filler for pump shutoff. Hopefully that will work too. I will definitely post up what the results are. |
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Here’s my vent input to the filler. It’s not fancy, but it should do the trick.
It will get thread sealer upon final install. |
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I do have a vent tube, but not like your setup. I think what you are doing is the correct way to do it. Mine just runs to a breather that is mounted higher than the filler. My tube is also smaller, I think 5/16" or thereabouts.
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I like how you're routing the filler hose to right in front of the rear post.
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I’ve been chipping away on the engine, but I’ve mainly been doing some house projects.
Here’s some pics. Bearing clearances are all good. Heads on and trunions upgraded, pushrods measured and installed. Some nice old school orange on the cast iron. |
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In the background of the above, you can see the core support. Not a lot to show there, but I can say that the Autozone/Carquest replacement radiator fits 4-core saddles perfectly. As expected, the Explorer fans still fit great.
I measured for the condenser and have one on order from Cold Hose. I’ll update when it comes in. |
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Got some more done this past week.
The clutch is in, the slave cylinder is shimmed and installed The engine and transmission are sitting in the frame. |
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The clutch setup was a combo of parts I learned about from the ls1 tech message board.
The flywheel is a NFW1050, for a early LS pickup The clutch is a LUK 04-020, for a 70s BBC Corvette The pilot bearing came with the bell housing. I bought it from Bowler The throw out bearing/slave cyl is 910-25610 from Speedway. Setup was fairly easy, one bolt comes out of the input retainer and a stud goes back in. It holds the slave from rotating. The slave comes with .050 shims and the gap tolerance to the clutch fingers is .050-.100 I started with 3, it was too loose. Went with 5, and it was just barely putting pressure on the fingers. Went with 4 and got right at .050. It was nice to do this on the floor. In the truck would have been not so fun. |
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That is an interesting throwout bearing design. The one on mine has a flange that bolts to the transmission. I'm curious to hear how you like that LS/TKO combo. My NV3500 is mushy and makes all sorts of noises, so I know I'll be in the market for an upgrade eventually.
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Chipping away some more.
Exhaust is next. Time to learn something new. |
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Here’s some shots of the a/c compressor location with these Holley frame stands. I’d guess the Speedway setup would be the same.
It’s tight, but not terrible. The fittings are from Cold Hose. |
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I like the whole frame shot. It's good to take a step back and admire the progress once in a while.
That A/C compressor position looks good to me! I like that setup. I may be adding A/C to my truck eventually and I think I would copy you 100% on this one :) |
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I'm diggin' your wheel and tire choice. :ito:
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I’ve been chipping away at the exhaust over the past few weeks.
Of course there was a learning experience during my H pipe setup. I mocked it up with a length of exhaust tube for the driveshaft. No, that’s not enough clearance for any amount of down travel. |
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Nothing says lesson learned like cutting apart your pieces and redoing them. At least my mock up beads were short. After this I just did fat tacks for fitment until I was sure of my clearances.
But now I have plenty of room. The rear of the DS can drop 4” before it contacts the crossmember and it shouldn’t ever touch the exhaust. |
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Speaking of driveshafts, I measured out what I would need and found 54-56” would probably work.
Conveniently, my Jeep buddy had a Police Interceptor Crown Vic he was parting out and the aluminum DS from it was a perfect fit. I just swapped on my yoke and put in a 1310-1330 conversion joint at the rear. Easy-peasy |
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After spring break in Arizona, I added my rear flanges to the H pipe section and took it out to weld up.
It did move around a little bit, but a ratchet strap took care of that. It had widened out about 3/4” at the header end. You’ll notice that it isn’t laser straight, that is on purpose. I used the tolerance gaps in the joints to get the routing where I wanted it. I saved the bends for the back half. |
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On to the rear half. This part took me a couple of weekends to do. I tried several routings and placements for the mufflers. The best in/out I could come up with was high inlet and center outlet with the mufflers vertical. The outlet was really the deciding factor since the shocks and diff housing left a fairly small window.
On the trailing arm end, there's a couple of inches clearance. It should be plenty, I used a straight edge to mimic travel and it is good to well past the bump stops. The spans across the bed mount towers were helpful also for cross sill clearance. |
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The first bend was pretty easy, it's just a U bend cut in half and flipped. The hangers are another stock Ford part. I'm using 3 per side. They're pretty stout and easy to work with. The metal rods are generic from Amazon. I made the bolt hole portion of the mounts from 3/16 flat stock.
It's always surprising how long these things take... This was a whole saturday, but to do it again would probably take 1/3 the time. |
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What are the devices near the start of the pipes, before the "H" pipe? Cats or resonators?
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The next round was a little more complicated. The pipes have to go over the rear, then the passenger side goes behind the panhard bar and the driver side goes in front. Then it has to clear the gas tank corners and go to the rear.
I started with the passenger side. |
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Then mirrored it on the driver side, just shifted aft a bit, and continued on to the back.
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Then the passenger side.
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Nice work, are you using a kit of misc exhaust pieces? or just buying what you need? also what size diameter are you using?
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I bought the universal box of mandrel bends from Speedway. It's the 2.5" version. I got their H pipe kit and also added the optional extra box of straight pieces they have for pickups. The H pipe was handy, but I haven't needed any of the straight pickup kit tubes. The pieces all come with one end expanded for slip fitting. That was handy. I only had a couple of pieces to butt weld; at the rear downward portion of the axle kickup and the front S shape before the mufflers. Both of those sections got welded in my vise and then put back on the truck. |
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Thanks for the info. I was looking at those Speedway kit as well. Their Phx store/warehouses is actually a few miles away from my office, which is convenient.
What muffler did you end up using? |
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